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Start11 1.24 Release Issue Report Thread

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Start11 1.24 Release Issue Report Thread

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With the Start11 1.24 release, we are creating this thread so that users can report any observed issues.  

Obtaining Start11 1.24

Object Desktop members can get the release from within Object Desktop Manager 

Individual purchases (as well as Object Desktop Members) can also be obtained from your account page: https://store.stardock.com/myaccount/products

For guest check-out purchase (no account), from this link: http://www.stardock.com/support/productkeyretrieval

Reporting an issue

Please include the following for anything found:

  • Exact Windows version \ build (winver.exe)
  • Detailed steps to recreate the issue seen
  • Screenshots and videos are very helpful.  Videos can be uploaded to a cloud drive services (GoogleDrive, DropBox, OneDrive, YouTube) and links included in your post.  Images can be directly added.
  • If there are specific apps that the app does not work (well) with, please note what apps and their exact versions.  If any app is not common, a link to a trial version would be appreciated.

Thank you for your interest and any time you put into making Start11 a better product.

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Reply #76 from Stardock Forums Top

It seems with every update the same bugs apprear! Again If I chose any look other than windows 7, the start menu appears on the top left hand of the screen.

 

Now also, non of my pinned icons apear in the start menu, dispite choosing pin to start 11!

Reply #77 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting Stuartkeith, reply 78

It seems with every update the same bugs apprear! Again If I chose any look other than windows 7, the start menu appears on the top left hand of the screen.

 

Now also, non of my pinned icons apear in the start menu, dispite choosing pin to start 11!

Are you using ObjectDock too?

Which look are you using where your pinned items do not appear?

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Reply #79 from Stardock Forums Top

This is a very minor issue but I'll report it anyway. I'm using Windows 10 style with "recent files" in the shortcut list (or whatever it's called in the English version). Right-clicking the icon and selecting properties shows a username that doesn't belong to me in the path.

Reply #81 from Stardock Forums Top

Trying to install Start 11 and getting an error during install, first error was seen when doing an update, then I uninstalled/reinstalled everything (Start 11 as well as Object Desktop) and getting same error...

Windows 11 InfoInstall Error

Reply #82 from Stardock Forums Top

Is it just me again or is the "Restart and Update" function not working? Last few times I had to restart and update via the Updates settings page...

Reply #83 from Stardock Forums Top

Also, when adding a shortcut with custom icon to the Startmenu the icon is not displayed. May sound like a minor bug but looks kind of ugly...

Reply #84 from Stardock Forums Top

if you dont set a name for a page (aka pinned) then any names you have set for your folders wont show up. 

Reply #85 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting Neil, reply 77


Quoting KolbyG,
reply 72

After running 1.24 for a couple of weeks I can confirm that the performance issues are better, but still not fixed.

The taskbar is generally quite responsive and after a reboot, it's usually fine for a few hours. Then it seems to have periods where it will just completely freeze (mouse over animations stop working), and clicking on the buttons has about a 10-15 second delay between click and action. If you perform a bunch of actions (clicking on multiple windows in the taskbar) while it's frozen they will all happen at the same time after 10-15 seconds once it starts responding again. This was MUCH worse in previous Start11 versions and as I mentioned before, it got so bad I had to uninstall it for a while. I used to see this much more frequently and 60s+ delays, so it is better, but still not perfect.

Sometimes this will happen once and then be fine for a few more hours, other times it's over and over again. Restarting explorer seems to fix it sometimes, other times I have to reboot.

Win11 22000.739 (happened on last month's build as well)
Start11 1.24

Since this is a performance-related report, relevant machine specs:
Ryzen 3900X
64GB RAM
PCIe SSDs

Also monitor arrangement, in case that matters:
1 - 3840x2160 (100% scaling)
2 - 3840x2160 (150% scaling)
3 - 3840x2160 (150% scaling, vertical/portrait mode)



It is possible you have your desktop wallpaper set to change every so often?

I ask as it is a known bug in Windows 11 (and 10) that when it changes the wallpaper it causes explorer to hang for periods (unrelated to S11)

Nope, static background, thanks for the suggestion though!

Reply #86 from Stardock Forums Top

Hi Yes I am, and whatever look I decide to use. However I can only use windows 7 look as over wise the menu is back in the top left corner.

Reinstalling makes no difference.

 

Starting to make me wish I was using a dodgy copy now and asking for a refund! :( I am also unable to use the enhanced task bar, as it hangs windows after a while and will need to reboot to get the taskbar to respond!

Reply #87 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting Stuartkeith, reply 88

Hi Yes I am, and whatever look I decide to use. However I can only use windows 7 look as over wise the menu is back in the top left corner.

Reinstalling makes no difference.

 

Starting to make me wish I was using a dodgy copy now and asking for a refund! :( I am also unable to use the enhanced task bar, as it hangs windows after a while and will need to reboot to get the taskbar to respond!

You would need to remove ObjectDock. It is not supported on Windows 10/11 and is the trigger for the menu showing at the top of the screen.  It can also in some versions of Start11 cause the taskbar to lockup.

Reply #88 from Stardock Forums Top

Has anyone experienced the taskbar being totally unresponsive during explorer file transfers? 

Reply #89 from Stardock Forums Top

 

I believe there is a bug within Start11 app when you also use Auto Hide Taskbar settings

 

The taskbar does AutoHide, but when you Maximize the window your in, it doesn’t go all the way to the bottom of the screen. The window behaves as if the taskbar is still there even though it's hidden.

 

You can see in my screenshot the Google webpage won’t go to the bottom where the taskbar normally is even though I maximized the browser. I even tried to drag the browser window manually, but it just snaps right back to how it looks in the screenshot.

 

Curious if there is a fix for this

 

Thanks!

 

Reply #90 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting blanecoulcher, reply 64

Hi

I am still getting this issue that if I hover over an icon on the toolbar (eg Outlook) then it shows another app (in this case Slack). If I click on the Icon (ie Outlook) it will then open Slack. SO too open Outlook I have to use ALt-Tab

Great if you could fix this

Thank you!
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Please please please can you fix this? Or give an update/reply I've posted a couple of times. The Start11 taskbar has become unusable, and I have now removed Start11. That bug makes the taskbar worse than Microsoft's bastardisation of the Win10 version and that's saying someting! I so much prefer Start11 and have been using equivilant since it first came out way back when- but this bug makes it unusable. I am in a meeting and want to show an Excel file, click on Excel, and What's App opens.

Please?!

Using Windows 11 Insider Preview 22621.1 (ni_release). Happens on my Desktop and my SurfacePro 8

Reply #91 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting blanecoulcher, reply 92

Using Windows 11 Insider Preview 22621.1 (ni_release). Happens on my Desktop and my SurfacePro 8
Quoting blanecoulcher, reply 92

Using Windows 11 Insider Preview 22621.1 (ni_release). Happens on my Desktop and my SurfacePro 8

As stated, we cant provide support for Insider builds of Windows.

That said, to exclude that it is an app \ setting conflict, have you tried doing a clean boot?

https://forums.stardock.com/505872/start11-support-faq#cleanboot

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

Reply #92 from Stardock Forums Top

I'll have to be a "me too" on the issue of taskbar showing the wrong apps when you hover over the button (current version and at least the previous one).

I have Start11 installed on three machines.

It occurs on a machine with one monitor (most of the time, occasionally switch to expand to include TV)

On my machine with three monitors (work) the taskbar will become 90% unresponsive eventually. 

In both case I can go to taskbar>right click>configure start11>taskbar > Restart Explorer to reset it to working (for a while).

Third machine is a laptop that I don't use often enough to tell if there's an issue.

I ended up simply turning off Taskbar enhancements in Start11. I really got it for the actual Start Menu anyway (which works fine (no idea what MS was thinking with the Win11 menu)). Though I do like the "sometimes combined" settings when it works.

 

Reply #93 from Stardock Forums Top 
why does the alternative icon (start) no longer work when the taskbar is in the middle?
Reply #94 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting wickedmx19, reply 95

why does the alternative icon (start) no longer work when the taskbar is in the middle?


Not sure I have all the information I need to answer this (Windows version for one) but is this what you mean?
https://cdn.stardock.us/support/uploads/2022-06-24_13-11-00.mp4

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager
Reply #95 from Stardock Forums Top

 

before I could position the taskbar in the middle and choose a different start icon, now

Reply #96 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting wickedmx19, reply 97

 

before I could position the taskbar in the middle and choose a different start icon, now

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As the message in-app states, that is only supported when the Start button is on the left.  If you turn it off, you will be able to edit it. See:

https://cdn.stardock.us/support/uploads/2022-06-24_15-56-11.mp4

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

 

Reply #97 from Stardock Forums Top

Bug: Start Menu does not update upon installing an app. It only updates if I go to "Start Menu" -> "Configuration" -> "Advanced Configuration" and disable/re-enable "show recently added apps".

Reply #98 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting furomin, reply 84

Is it just me again or is the "Restart and Update" function not working? Last few times I had to restart and update via the Updates settings page...

Any updates on this?

Quoting sdRohan, reply 98

As the message in-app states, that is only supported when the Start button is on the left.  If you turn it off, you will be able to edit it. See:

https://cdn.stardock.us/support/uploads/2022-06-24_15-56-11.mp4

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager
 

Is there a plan to make it possible to position the Windows symbol in the middle even when using Start11 to enhance the taskbar? If not, I'd like to make a feature request here... Thank you very much!

Reply #99 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting furomin, reply 100

Quoting furomin,reply 84
Is it just me again or is the "Restart and Update" function not working? Last few times I had to restart and update via the Updates settings page...
Any updates on this?

How exactly is it 'not working' - when you click it, nothing happens?

Sean Drohan
Stardock Support Manager

Reply #100 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting furomin, reply 99

Bug: Start Menu does not update upon installing an app. It only updates if I go to "Start Menu" -> "Configuration" -> "Advanced Configuration" and disable/re-enable "show recently added apps".

Can you provide a video of this?

Sean Drohan
Stardock Support Manager