Start11 1.24 Release Issue Report Thread

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With the Start11 1.24 release, we are creating this thread so that users can report any observed issues.  

Obtaining Start11 1.24

Object Desktop members can get the release from within Object Desktop Manager 

Individual purchases (as well as Object Desktop Members) can also be obtained from your account page: https://store.stardock.com/myaccount/products

For guest check-out purchase (no account), from this link: http://www.stardock.com/support/productkeyretrieval

Reporting an issue

Please include the following for anything found:

  • Exact Windows version \ build (winver.exe)
  • Detailed steps to recreate the issue seen
  • Screenshots and videos are very helpful.  Videos can be uploaded to a cloud drive services (GoogleDrive, DropBox, OneDrive, YouTube) and links included in your post.  Images can be directly added.
  • If there are specific apps that the app does not work (well) with, please note what apps and their exact versions.  If any app is not common, a link to a trial version would be appreciated.

Thank you for your interest and any time you put into making Start11 a better product.

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Reply #1 from Stardock Forums Top

Start11 1.24 is a culmination of prior betas

1.24 changelog

05/16/2022
  • Removed a surplus UI button if you resize the config really tall on the main page and
  • Fixed the tooltip text for the Win10 menu style when all apps is hidden by default
  • One missing string which is added to the en lang file
05/12/2022
  • Fix for error prompt about PowerShell showing if security settings block running it
  • Fix for ObjectDock running causing enhanced taskbar to lockup or run extremely slowly
  • Added support for shutdown / reboot when other users are logged into the computer
  • Added steam update support
  • Fix for issue with small mode taskbar sometimes causing a crash on explorer restart
  • Fixed issue with system tray icons sometimes shrinking or turning into one column when using enhanced taskbar mode
  • Fix for issue clicking on grouped taskbar button when primary monitor is to the right of the primary and mouse jumping to the corner sometimes (most likely on double click)
  • Fixed issue with prolonged cpu spike when opening jumplist from taskbar
  • Tweak to clicking on already running app in taskbar for detecting if to focus or minimize / restore
  • Added strings to en.lng and en-us.lng for new bits in 1.24
1.23 changelog
 
05/09/2022
  • Tweak for tooltips on autohide taskbar on top of the screen (possibly - did not test but tweaked logic)
  • Background color added to start button backgrounds in the config as white ones were invisible when light mode
  • Core language updates
    • German
    • Korean
    • Russian
    • Chinese (Simplified, Traditional)
    • Portuguese-Brazil

      Note      : While they should be complete, they have not been reviewed yet to ensure they all fit in the UI properly.  Any that do not will be updated in a full release of this version. 

5/6/2022

  • Fixed issue on current Win11 dev/beta channel releases when hiding the show hidden system tray icons button on the taskbar causing all taskbar icons to vanish incorrectly
  • Different sized start buttons are now adjusted to fit correctly on Win11 dev/beta touch aware taskbar (now removed from Win11 builds). This means extra large ones will be shrunk to fit and small ones will be padded
  • Fixed issue with dark mode Win10 style having too solid a background color for the tile backgrounds
  • Fix issue with taskbar on top not allowing you to click to the very top and activate a taskbar button
  • Fixed issue where full taskbar will force scrolling quicker than Win10 taskbar with Enhanced Start11 taskbar in non combine mode
  • Fix issue with Fences in Win7/modern menu all programs list when dark not using a different colour for the text
  • Added registry key to disable Fences showing color in Win7/modern menu all programs list (NoColourForFencesFolders = 1 in usual registry location)
  • Fixed issue with pinned taskbar items having incorrect mouseover image edge color when using a dark taskbar
  • Fixed issue with default alpha on taskbar being incorrectly set when reset in software. Would need to reset taskbar alpha manually to fix
  • Fixed issue with Win11 Taskbar not respecting light/dark mode changes sometimes
  • Fixed issue with touch on Win10 start button
  • Fixed for the Win10 update (optional currently) where the background of the weather button on the taskbar doesn't respect the texture
  • Fixed issue with taskbar remaining on top when opening start menu from a full screen game/app on a secondary monitor
  • Fixed issue with multiline taskbar showing scrollbar when there is a spare row
  • Tweaks to improve search quality
  • Fix for insider so it correctly handles the taskbar and system tray (again!)
Reply #2 from Stardock Forums Top

Known issues

While we appreciate all feedback, please remember that we offer no official support for beta \ preview \ developer channel versions of Windows. If you report issues while in any of those early release channels, you should not expect them to be addressed unless it still exists in a retail version of Windows. In an effort to track what

  • Object Desktop Manager will read that there is an update after you have already done so when there is not.  It will be fixed in the coming days.
    Fixed
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Reply #3 from Stardock Forums Top

***Reserved***

Reply #6 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting Neil, reply 5

Quoting serega_m,

reply 4

The issue I have reported here - https://forums.stardock.com/512078/page/3/#3852483

is still not resolved in 1.24. Hope you will address it in the future builds.

Are you using an insider build?

Nope, only the release versions of everything, right now my Windows has version 21H2 OS build 22000.675

Reply #7 from Stardock Forums Top

I'm updating to 1.24 on 2 separate laptops and the process is stalling after the download is complete. 
Laptop 1 - Windows 11 Home 21H2 Build 22000.706
Laptop 2 - Windows 10 Home 21H2 Build 19044.1706

On edit: the download process is near-complete: 40.20 MB of 40.24 MB. It sticks there.

Reply #8 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting SteveMagruder, reply 7

I'm updating to 1.24 on 2 separate laptops and the process is stalling after the download is complete. 
Laptop 1 - Windows 11 Home 21H2 Build 22000.706
Laptop 2 - Windows 10 Home 21H2 Build 19044.1706

On edit: the download process is near-complete: 40.20 MB of 40.24 MB. It sticks there.

I downloaded Start11_Setup_sd.exe from My Downloads on the site, and that seemed to install fine. It's just the direct update from the configuration window (About) that failed for me.

Reply #9 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting SteveMagruder, reply 7

I'm updating to 1.24 on 2 separate laptops and the process is stalling after the download is complete. 
Laptop 1 - Windows 11 Home 21H2 Build 22000.706
Laptop 2 - Windows 10 Home 21H2 Build 19044.1706

On edit: the download process is near-complete: 40.20 MB of 40.24 MB. It sticks there.

I was able to reproduce this issue... Ill look into it straight way.

Quoting SteveMagruder, reply 8

I downloaded Start11_Setup_sd.exe from My Downloads on the site, and that seemed to install fine. It's just the direct update from the configuration window (About) that failed for me.

That would be the workaround, to get it from an account page or directly from this link:

http://www.stardock.com/support/productkeyretrieval

Sorry for the trouble and thanks for the heads up.

Sean Drohan
Stardock Support Manager

Reply #10 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting sdRohan, reply 9


Quoting SteveMagruder,
reply 7

I'm updating to 1.24 on 2 separate laptops and the process is stalling after the download is complete. 
Laptop 1 - Windows 11 Home 21H2 Build 22000.706
Laptop 2 - Windows 10 Home 21H2 Build 19044.1706

On edit: the download process is near-complete: 40.20 MB of 40.24 MB. It sticks there.



I was able to reproduce this issue... Ill look into it straight way.


Quoting SteveMagruder,
reply 8

I downloaded Start11_Setup_sd.exe from My Downloads on the site, and that seemed to install fine. It's just the direct update from the configuration window (About) that failed for me.



That would be the workaround, to get it from an account page or directly from this link:

http://www.stardock.com/support/productkeyretrieval

Sorry for the trouble and thanks for the heads up.

Sean Drohan
Stardock Support Manager

Fixed.

Sean Drohan
Stardock Support Manager

Reply #11 from Stardock Forums Top

Right clicking the Start icon crashes the app. Ideally this function should be mapped to this dialog from older Windows':

Image

Reply #12 from Stardock Forums Top

In 1.24 taskbar becomes lagging/unresponsive for a second in dual monitor setup with extend mode.

The lagging/unresponsive issue occurs when moving any taskbar icon to reorder it, or when starting any app as Administrator using taskbar icon.

When it becomes unresponsive, it doesn't seem to respond to any mouse input for a second.

This seems to have already occurred in 1.22 as well.

Reply #13 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting furomin, reply 11

Right clicking the Start icon crashes the app. Ideally this function should be mapped to this dialog from older Windows':

I cannot reproduce that on a Win10 box:

https://cdn.stardock.us/support/uploads/2022-05-21_01-48-40.mp4

Can you post a screenshot of your winver.exe?

If the crash is on a released version of Windows and it still happening, we would really like a full crash dump of it.  Directions can be found here:

https://forums.stardock.com/505872/start11-support-faq#CrashDumps

Thanks for the feedback, furomin.

Sean Drohan
Stardock Support Manager

Reply #14 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting furomin, reply 11

Right clicking the Start icon crashes the app. Ideally this function should be mapped to this dialog from older Windows':

Image

 

Works fine on my setup with Win 11.

Reply #15 from Stardock Forums Top

Right-click on Start icon is working fine on both my Win 10 and Win 11 laptops.

And thank you Sean for addressing the installation issue.

Reply #16 from Stardock Forums Top

Start11 version: 1.24
Windows 11 PRO -  Version 10.0.22000 Build 22000
Monitors: 4
Features used: Taskbar align top and small (everything else is disabled)


Just updated to latest start11 and now Align Top is no longer working, both primary and secondary monitors are set to Align Top taskbar, but they are all only visible on the bottom.. 

I have restarted explorer several times while toggling back and fourth to see if that would help, I have also restarted the computer in hopes that would help but to no avail.

note, restarting after updating Start11, the primary was still aligned top, but secondary monitors were not.. I then toggled then all align bottom, restarted explorer, then align top, and they all stuck to the bottom after this.

Kind regards
Niels

 

Update)
The good 'ol registry hack where you change the hex from 03 to 01 seems to still work for now, so this will do along with the small taskbar option in Start11 until a fix is released in start11 :)

Reply #17 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting SteveMagruder, reply 15

And thank you Sean for addressing the installation issue.

Since I am the one that broke it, it seemed only fair 😉

Sean Drohan
Stardock Support Manager

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Reply #19 from Stardock Forums Top

My bad. Seems like it was a problem with another software I had installed. Now it works fine! Sorry!

Reply #20 from Stardock Forums Top

I've run into a couple minor issues when doing a search in the Start11 v1.24 Windows 10 style or Windows 11 style start menu. These don't occur with the regular start menu (Start11's start menu turned off).

1) On my Windows 11 laptop only, after clicking the Start button, and typing the characters of my search, the cursor doesn't catch up with the end of the text I'm typing. It lags further and further behind. I'll be happy to make a movie of this if that would help visualize what I'm seeing.

2) On both Win 10 and Win 11, searching for components of the Windows Security app doesn't find them. Try searching for "Reputation-based protection" or "Exploit protection". You can search on "security" to find the whole Windows Security app, though.

Reply #21 from Stardock Forums Top

Issue: when running Start11 (in Win10 mode), a windows file_explorer window is open, and I double-click a file I associated with notepad++(v8.3.3) (e.g., sii, sui, cfg, dat)**, the file_explorer window closes shortly after notepad++ opens the file. 

When I uninstall Start11, this unwanted behavior ceases; when I reinstall Start11, it happens again. This started happening after the 1.24 update. notepad++ seems to be the only software** affected; and it happens frequently but not always. It (window closes) does not happen when double clicking on pfd, xls, firefox, zmodeler, potplayer, IrfanView, etc.

Edition    Windows 11 Home x64
Version    21H2
Installed on    ‎10/‎22/‎2021
OS build    22000.675
Experience    Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22000.675.0

 

**24MAY update: 1) it also happens with .txt files with notepad++, 2) 7zip v19.00, 3) GIMP 2.10.30

 

Reply #23 from Stardock Forums Top

Hello,

Since the last version, the tiles background has disappeared and is seen only when hovered with the mouse.

How can I get back my tiles background squares?

Thank you

Patrick

Reply #24 from Stardock Forums Top

With the update to the stable 1.24 came with me again this strange bug, please see screenshot. With the version 1.23 j190 the bug was not there. It always occurs with some versions, I think it is already known. When I move the mouse over it is back to normal for a while.

I don't use any other apps that edit anything. Currently I am on Win11 21H2 22000.675

Reply #25 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting patrickantouly, reply 23

Hello,

Since the last version, the tiles background has disappeared and is seen only when hovered with the mouse.

How can I get back my tiles background squares?

Thank you

Patrick

Can you post a screenshot of what they look like for you?

Paul Scroggins
Associate Technical Support Analyst