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Mastermind behind 9/11..................DEAD!

Mastermind behind 9/11..................DEAD!

found on Yahoo.com

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_bin_laden

Osama Bin Laden is dead. Navy Seal team took him out. May he rot in hell!!!

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Reply #151 Top

Quoting DisturbedComputer, reply 143
Quoting WebGizmos,
reply 132
How is that racist? She's entitled to express her feelings based on her experiences and I don't see anything about what she said as racist.

Quoting Vampothika,
reply 111
im sick to death of the arabs, they are nothing but arrogant, hateful, and a voilent race.

Racism involves the belief in racial differences, which acts as a justification for non-equal treatment (which some regard as "discrimination") of members of that race. The term is commonly used negatively and is usually associated with race-based prejudice, violence, dislike, discrimination, or oppression, that is stating that the hole race. which makes it a racist statement.. which is not called for and WC should have taken it down!!

So...you don't believe there are racial differences between groups of people? Or do you just not choose to acknowledge them?

I stand by what I said the first time. Your assuming she meant the whole race. And again...she is entitled to her opinion. Where the argument can be made that just because of a few bad ones is doesn't make the whole race bad...a few good ones doesn't make a whole race good either.

Personally, I treat each person according to their behavior. But based on my personal experiences...like it or not...some races are just plain worthless. If saying that is not "PC"...fine...I don't subscribe to this whole pc thing...never did. I see things for what they are based on my own experience not on fantasy.

Reply #152 Top

Quoting Vampothika, reply 149


i guess i meant the ones that are normally the bad apples in the basket that make the rest look bad too.....


 


Actually, that's exactly what I thought you meant, because I believe in your goodness, kitty. 

I can tell everyone that writing is tricky. There'll always be someone who misunderstands the writer's intent, because he or she only sees the printed word...

So to writers and readers alike, go slower and think, "How might this be misunderstood?" and don't press the "Post Reply" button too quickly.

Think about it. WebGizmos has taught me to use "Notepad", and I've only regretted it when I didn't remember to do so.


And relax.... we're all friends when you come right down to it. I was worried when this thread appeared because I just felt it in my bones that an innocent mistake would happen. 

Reply #153 Top

Quoting WebGizmos, reply 151
some races are just plain worthless.

 

I agree:

 

 

Now look for the deeper meaning. There is one ;)

Reply #154 Top

Quoting WebGizmos, reply 151
Your assuming she meant the whole race

 

Even though she has clarified now due to the backlash comments, that is exactly what she said in the post.

 

Quoting Vampothika, reply 111


im sick to death of the arabs, they are nothing but arrogant, hateful, and a voilent race

 

She called out the entire race.  She didn't specify the extremists or the bad apples.  No one needs to assume anything from that statement, she laid it out in black and white.  The only thing that could be taken out of that statement is that Vampothika is sick to death of all Arabs because the are arrogant, hateful and violent.

 

As it's been pointed out to me many, many times, one MUST be very careful how one articulates their opinions on a forum.

 

Case in point:

Quoting WebGizmos, reply 151
some races are just plain worthless

 

Wow.

Reply #155 Top

Despite my best efforts at lightening things up, looks like I've failed. 

Folks, not everything needs answering. In fact, most things are better left unsaid.

Can we please leave it at that?

 

All this would have made Ed very unhappy, as it's doing to me. 

Reply #156 Top

Quoting natas2, reply 154
As it's been pointed out to me many, many times, one MUST be very careful how one articulates their opinions on a forum.

Reason being...

You are in a pub.  You tell your mates around you you hate those stinking [insert race/gender/religion/whatever here]...and they nod and wink in agreement.  Your mates know you mouth off when half pissed/whatever and besides....if those 'others' sitting in the corner get uptight...you have a glass you can 'use'......

On the net, on a forum on the net you ASSUME your audience is "with you" and if they are not, well, you really don't care a toss, anyway, do you.  You don't even NEED that 'glass'.....

Reality is....the target/s of your animosity/disdain/prejudice....call it what you will .... are usually ALSO MEMBERS OF THIS FORUM.

When you condemn a 'people' by sweeping comment [irrespective of it being misguided AND simply WRONG] you inadvertently [or perhaps not] directly insult/offend your fellow members.

Wincustomize.com [as with ALL of Stardock's forums/sites] IS MULTICULTURAL.

Heck, just look at the mods here at Wincustomize.  No, they're not all  'WASPs'.  And if you browse through the member listings [as I sometimes need to] you'll see every nation represented in our 4.3 million.  Yes, many are from the USA, and many more have English as a first language, but many are neither, too.

Adminning a site such as this means I [we] don't care WHERE people are from, I [we] only care about how they conduct themselves when they are here.

If that means people need to think twice before posting comment then so be it....;)

Reply #157 Top

Quoting natas2, reply 154
Quoting WebGizmos,
reply 151
Your assuming she meant the whole race

Even though she has clarified now due to the backlash comments, that is exactly what she said in the post.

Quoting natas2, reply 154
As it's been pointed out to me many, many times, one MUST be very careful how one articulates their opinions on a forum.

In most cases yes...but I was personally able to understand that she was NOT calling out the entire race of Arabs even though it obviously "appeared" that way to some people. Some people need it explained in detail...some don't. ;)

 

Quoting natas2, reply 154
Case in point:

Quoting WebGizmos,
reply 151
some races are just plain worthless

Wow.

I won't even bother trying to explain this. But I stand by what I said. It's just my opinion and I'm not here to insult anyone.

Reply #158 Top

Quoting WebGizmos, reply 157
I was personally able to understand that she was NOT calling out the entire race of Arabs...

And just how, based on here post alone, were you able to infer that?  That post wasn't open to interpretation.  If it had been stated like this:

"Im sick to death of the extremist arabs, they are nothing but arrogant, hateful, and violent."

Then it would be a whole different story.  But it isn't.  Because she didn't.

 


Quoting WebGizmos, reply 157
...It's just my opinion and I'm not here to insult anyone

Really?

Quoting WebGizmos, reply 157
...even though it obviously "appeared" that way to some people. Some people need it explained in detail ;)

That could "appear" to be insulting to some people.

Reply #159 Top

again, I apologize for resurrecting this post.

Reply #160 Top

Quoting gmc2, reply 159
again, I apologize for resurrecting this post.

Why?  People are allowed to have discussions.  It's what makes this place somewhat nice.  You get to see a multitude of replies/reactions to the things that you "say".  It's one of the things that makes the net interesting.

Vampothika probably would have gotten away with her "colorful" comment around her friends/family but when you put that shit out on the net, someone is going to call you out on it.

Reply #161 Top

natas2, I'm sure you've mistyped or said something you wish you had said differently in the past: I have and so has everyone else. That's part and parcel of being human.

Jafo's said all that needs to be said, and Vampothika has replied. 

Why not let this become the past? You don't have to justify what you wrote, and no one is asking you to do so, so let's just let it die. OK?

 

Reply #162 Top

Now I regret putting it up. All I wanted was to inform of a hated "terrorists' demise. Nothing more. Let this thread go......please. Its done!

Reply #163 Top

Quoting DrJBHL, reply 161
natas2, I'm sure you've mistyped or said something you wish you had said differently in the past: I have and so has everyone else. That's part and parcel of being human.

Jafo's said all that needs to be said, and Vampothika has replied. 

Why not let this become the past? You don't have to justify what you wrote, and no one is asking you to do so, so let's just let it die. OK?

 

I have said things I wished I'd said differently, but nothing on the level of what she laid out in the forum.  And if you think that was a "mistyped" statement, you're on something.  She replied due to the negative response her comment garnered her.  I'm sure she hoped others would have jumped aboard with that comment, but they didn't so she needed to save face.

Sure, let's just cover up the fact that someone (a "Master" no less") made a racist comment.  A comment about a people she probably has no real knowledge of other than what she see's on the teli and reads in the paper.  I think she bloody well DOES have to justify what she wrote.  Anyone who takes a stance like that better damn well justify it or they just end up sounding like ignorant fucktards.

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Reply #164 Top

X| >:(  

Reply #167 Top

Will an Admin do me a favor and kill this thread! Its done. Let it go.

Reply #168 Top

There's a new drink in town called the Bin Laden. It's made up of two shots and a splash. Po made me say that! XD

Reply #169 Top

Quoting natas2, reply 163
I have said things I wished I'd said differently, but nothing on the level of what she laid out in the forum. And if you think that was a "mistyped" statement, you're on something.


I think she just chose the wrong word -- I think rather than race, she meant culture, which can be deduced by reading the rest of what she wrote.  She is offended by the fact that outsiders come into her country, with it's unique (Aussie) culture, and expect THAT (Aussie) culture to change to the former culture (Arabian) the outsiders came from.  A race is just hereditary physical characteristics--race hating is senseless; culture hating is something entirely different, especially when it encroaches on those with opposing cultures.

Reply #170 Top

when in Rome....

look how the French have dealt with these issues, maybe they have the right idea???