Grace is simply unmerited favor.  God gives us grace.  Yes, and only then it's called Divine Grace. 

I wasn't speaking of anything divine LW....so cool your jets.

When you get stopped by a cop for speeding and he lets you go with a warning....that's grace.  Unmerited favor.

That's all I'm saying. 

You can take it or leave it.  But let's not make a mountain out of a molehill. 

 

Wow, I have to say this is one hell of an article. It has brought out the worst in almost everyone.

KFC

I, personally, don't follow you articles too much. While I was raised a Catholic and I believe in God, I am not much of a religious person. One reason for that is that most religious people tend to pass themselves as being the good guys, the ones with the higher morals and therefor feeling they have the right to cast the first stone. They tend to act as if they are helping by bringing the problem out to light and then when all hell breaks lose their defense is that it was not their intention do let this happen or they didn't think this would happen when in reality it was the whole point as part of the solution to help the person. I, for 1, think it's a good idea even if it doesn't always work, I'm just more upfront about it.

I'm not here trying to insult or put you down, but when you said this:



I find it hard to believe you didn't see this coming. Maybe not as out of control, but considering how many here on JU are and I'm sure you know most here well enough, this was something even a blind man could see.

LW has the right to be upset and to express it on the site since she continues to be brought up on many of the replies. Not to mention that none of us can deny we enjoy the comments of people like LW who tend to be very strong opinionated, sincere and downright cut throat. There are times I can almost imagine LW typing with a sledgehammer. But thats who she is and people like reading her comments when she gets all fired up, like on this article. To be honest, it's people like her who attract me to websites like these. I like people who are not afraid to be honest about their thoughts, who dare to tell you the truth in your face even if it hurts and will face any consequences the words might bring.

What bothers me about all of this is that we as a people would rather just point out the problem and hope that it's enough to solve it when in reality all it does is make a bad situation worse by adding more anger to the mix from others who were not involved in the first place and are not gonna do anything more than argue about it. This article has really done nothing more than to turn a mud slinging fest into a digital version of a mud slinging fest and in the end no one, except Gid, really knows if these children are in better conditions because in reality that's all that really matters to many here, including me.

But I have to ask myself, how much do any of us really care about these children? We already know Gid is an irresponsible father who hasn't learned to keep his penis in his pants and continues to bring more children to suffer into this world, we already know he's married to a woman who seems just as irresponsible as he is considering if she was home all this time WTF was she doing that she was unable to clean anything? We've seen the pictures and to top it all off we have his own words admitting to his crimes (crimes cause I can't call them mistakes, when it comes to children there are no mistakes just idiotic choices) as evidence to back it all up, so why is nothing being done to take these children away from him? Or are we (including me) such hypocrites that we are good at pointing out peoples problems so long as there's an anonymous way of doing it or as long as we don't get our hands dirty doing it? Anyone wants to be angry? Maybe we should look at ourselves in the mirror and remember that with all the information we have, the fact that we know who this person is and that he continues to hang around here and not trying to hide from anyone, those children are probably still being abused and all we have done is sit in front of a PC and post comments between Gid's inexcusable actions and Hillary Clinton's knack for lying for no reason. Man will those children be thankful that their little lives were right up there with Obama's paster and Hillary's sniper experience.

I don't understand this whole having to apologize for bring peoples memories back. Everyone has probably had some kind of bad experience in their lives that they wish they could forget but to all of them I say get over it. I have had enough bad experiences in my life to make me wanna cry for the next century but I don't. Everything from a father who ignored me, a brother and sister who didn't care about me, the death of that brother that I never got to meet appropriately, my wife cheating on me several times, etc. If stories that remind you of past experiences bother you I suggest you steer clear of all human contact cause you are not special and not the only one who's been thru it and finding solutions to problems means having to revisit those bad moments to analyze them. Get over it, it's past, long gone, move on. You can always hit yourself in the head enough times to cause amnesia and forget it for good.

I'm glad you took some action, I figured if anyone you would but there lies my point. Legal actions keep people from taking action yet somehow it doesn't seem to bother them to come to a place like JU and bitch and moan about it (myself included). I guess so long as people are not willing to get a bit bruised in the process of saving a life, children will continue to be abused and we may as well surrender to all criminals because God forbid someone broke a nail in the process. I've said it several times before , once upon a time people were willing to lay down their lives for what they believed in, now a days people want someone else, not related to them in any way, to do the sacrificing for them. Here's to the Chinese people in sweat shops we care so much about but still continue to buy Chinese made products at cheaper prices.



It's this kind of stuff that makes me question the American value. How we claim to care but in reality we are nothing but a selfish nation who is not willing to make sacrifices for the better good. "I want my children to have a great future, but I'm not willing to sacrifice my life or that of a family member to do so, let someone else's child, preferably a foreign persons child, be sacrificed."



I hear ya but keep in mind that according to Brad, this site is here only because he wants it to be. While it is claimed to be for the people, he could care less if anyone was here. Makes no sense to me why anyone would create a website and give everyone access to it if you didn't care of anyone came to it but. Col is not banned as far as I know, have seen him around a few times. Probably got frustrated with the site and decided it was not worth the arguments he got from it, who nows.

Charles..KFC posted this because Gid named her specifically in his welcome back article and then black listed her. He essentially called her out in a public forum, not allowing her to respond publically.

So she posted this article. She did it on her own blog. And I for one am glad she did. While some may look at this as a place to bash Gid, others (me) look at it as a place to poke the puss out of the wound he caused here.

Gid can't be "reached" by email. I exchanged emails with him some time ago, and he spouted the same lies as he did on JU to me and for no reason (at that time no one knew he was a liar).

If you were going to confront a gambler...would you send him an email or go where you know he will be? Will you can make the most impact?

KFC can't be expected to read the future or what people's reactions will be. It's her blog and until Brad and company tell her otherwise, she is free to post what she likes.

Gid is the deceiver here. Not KFC. Pointing a finger at the messenger is diversion at its finest and I am sure makes Gid's day.

And one more point. Why is expressing anger and disappointment with someone bringing out the "worst" in people?

And considering some of the flames I've seen at JU, this is not even on the chart in comparison.

I'd rather have uncomfortable honesty than phony silence.

I said what I said because I find it annoying that people claim to be ignorant to something as obvious as this. I was not trying to attack KFC about the article but more about the fact that she claimed not to be aware that this article would get so out of hand. What did she expect when Gid hurt a lot of people and did not allow them to reply on his article? This is not about guessing, this is about the obvious. It's not about writing the article, it's about acting as if she never thought this would happen.

I love ya, LW, but that was over the top.  Saying that Stardock is contributing to the ALLEGED continued neglect of his children is quite libelous, to say the least.  How is exiling a person who has a problem doing the "right thing"?  I feel that keeping in contact with that person and offering help is helping.  Turning your back doesn't help anything.

I now that people have strong feeling about what they have been presented.  But, we are not judge and jury here, and we DON'T know everything that is happening.  It seems that people are looking for a public execution here, and it's not going to happen.  So, let's cool it and move on, OK?

 

 

Most of you here don't usually come out so strong when posting replies on any article about any topic but this article has brought our a lot of anger in many and they have expressed it on here very heavily. That was what I meant by the worst in people. I find it hard to believe I had to actually explain this. Oh well, it seems this article brings more than anger but it also makes everyone testy and sensitive.

Like I said before, which you probably ignored (as usual), I thought you did a good thing reporting him. Of course, as usual, you make mountains out of molehills. I was not referring to committing crimes, I'm not surprised you would come to such conclusions, it's normal in you from what I read on these pages. Most the time I find you a very educated and "insightful" person but once in a while you make me wonder when you take things to such stupid extremes such as suggesting I am suggesting to commit a crime. That is just plain stupid.

It seems from time to time the obvious escapes some of the people on this site. Maybe some of you should take some time off and let your brains breath fresh air for a while. Don't you keep saying you are leaving LW, yet here you are still complaining about anything and everything. Never met a person that found something so disgusting and has no problem pointing it out at every chance yet sticks around anyways. So much anger, so much animosity, so much frustration, woman you sound like you gonna explode one of these days. Even when people say something nice to you, you come back guns a blazing. Too bad you won't have me backing down like you expect people to. I have a tong just as bad as yours if you get me started.

Just as I said, making mountains out of molehills. Typical of LW, then she lashes her tong hoping people will back off of her comments.



Kinda funny considering she told me I'll looking to have someone kidnap his kids or beat him up. Leave it to LW to take something and turn it into the JU version of WWII.

Charles, everyone has their hot buttons.

Mine personally is children, and their neglect/abuse. It's one of those buttons someone can push and I become a rabid dog..heh. Maybe not that bad..but close.

I don't consider that my worst attribute...maybe not my most logical, but certainly not my worst.

The reason I appear testy and sensitive is because I can't believe after Gid ADMITTED to the state of his home...we saw the pictures and he admitted it was that bad...how anyone can point to our anger and disgust as the problem instead of keeping the heat where it belongs.

It's not "alleged" when the perp admits to the crime. I don't have to know every single detail of someone's life to see something is wrong in Wonderland.

This isn't about a public execution...this is about allowing people who are sensitive to this situation our space to vent about it. We know Gid through JU. He lied to us through JU. We offered him help and support through JU. Is it so hard to believe we will vent our frustration, anger and disappointment on the same forum?

 

What is alleged is to the degree and if it is still happening.  I believe he also stated that not everything we "know" from here is accurate and did not claim that everything said was true.

"Venting" is one thing.  Asking that somebody be removed (as has been suggested) from the site is a "public execution" ie: killing them off from the site after the mob dictated it.

No, you know what Gid posted on here.  The first mistake is that people take what people blog about as pure fact.  People got involved with him- that is a risk that people decide on their own to take. People have also have authorities sent to his house due to what has been written on here by other people. 

When is it enough?  When is it simply time to quit beating the dead horse and move on?  I can say that it is now because having this topic brought up over and over again is just acceptable.

Does anyone think about how this looks to a new user?  Would anyone in their right mind join a site that drags so much dirty laundry out into the open then "vents" about it for months after the fact?  It's one thing to bring it to light and let everyone know what happened.  It's a whole different issue when we continue to drag people through the mud all over the site.

 

lol...I wondered if that was going to get commented on!  hehe

It would seem you and maybe the others took that a bit too specific. Reading too much into something. It's kind of a saying, bringing the worst out, not necessarily meaning "the worst" but some really strong feelings not normally seen from that particular person.

I do apologize if I offended anyone for that was not my intention. Some here seem a bit more sensitive about this particular article that I thought.



And I agree with you totally. I think more than just anger being thrown on this article should be done. LW took her chances and did something about it but when I applauded her for it she basically flipped the bird at me for it. I'll never understand if you don't believe you (not you specifically) are guilty of something why do you get offended over something that was not meant for you? I could care less at this point.

I say we not just throw him under the bus, but throw the bus at him afterwards.

Picky, picky. Forgive me for not being specific. I forget you require 10 links, a signed affidavit and proof of identity before one can comment to one of your replies.



If you say so. Again, specifics a must when it comes to responding to Ms Specific over here. BTW, it's complaining, not cmplaining.



Hehe, believe me when I tell you I don't expect you to. You would take advice if it meant saving your life, you're to proud for that. Especially when it's from someone like me who's not afraid of you and your comments. I guess you are not use to having people face you when you come off like a bat out of hell with your comments.

Again you ignore things just to benefit your comments (anyone ever tell you you sometimes act like Hillary), I included myself just about every time I made the comments so I did not rise above anyone. I condemned myself just as much but I guess you wouldn't know about that cause you always find ways to blame someone else.

Good one. I guess that proves I'm human and you're shooting blanks since this is the best you can do to "fight back". Enjoy this one, I mean, after all cmplaining and pretenting are no big deals right?






Just typos I guess.

Took you long enough to get to name calling. Now we are truly seeing the real LW. Sure, I admit I made a mistake, sue me. You on the other hand drop it in the hands of Mr Typo, as if spellcheck programs were in short supply. But that's ok LW. I merely pointed it out since you like trying to embarrass people when ever they stand up to you, I on the other hand have learned to deal with people like you and as you can see, I have you calling me names.

Chill out LW, I'm known to get under peoples skins. I'm annoying by nature so get use to it. You guys are getting a kick out of virtually kicking the hell out of Gid on this article but when someone points to the hypocrisy of your argument you get so defensive you make insurgents look like online game players. I'll say it again, I applaud you for doing something, anything at all, to help those kids, while the rest of us sit here typing every hatred word that we can make up against a guy who doesn't give a crap anyways. I'm sure that gives you the feeling of "rising above" the rest of us and I'm sure those kids will one day appreciate it. But I hate to think they would have to meet such a sour person like you.

I'm sure I'm gonna get some nasty words after this but if LW can't dish it out, so can I. If you don't like it, bit my American made, Puerto Rican butt.

And lets not get too far away from the real purpose of this article. Get over it LW and focus on the real criminal here.

Charles....ummmmm I think you need to take a cold shower. 

 

...yeah, that's exactly what I said.

Hyperboles are fun, eh?

I don't even drink mai tais...

~Zoo

Hehe, funny considering how often LW insults you and your articles but you come after me, probably because of my opinion in the other article. You people are really funny bloggers, probably the reason I hang around here. You 2 are great for laughs sometimes.

I guess when honesty is thrown at you gals you flip not expecting it. Sorry to disappoint you but I'm not gonna sit there and take it every time one of you decided to pick my comments apart.

Exactly, thank you. You've said what I've always felt, but could never really put into words.

Here's some a piece of advice from soneone who has been in confrontations with LW, and unless I'm mistaken, everyone here. J

Just cool off and move on. It doesn't do any good to drag on something like this. I kept things going that had long since become pointless, I also wouldn't take the advice of my peers even when I knew they were right.

Forget it and live life. This is a blogging site.

But hey, it's just some advice, take it or leave it.

GAG!

Why is that tongue so crusty looking?


Uh,never mind. Probably don't wanna know...  

Why do you need to keep harping on me and LW?  Do you have some sort of fascination with the two of us?  You must have said this same thing, between here and my other site , a half dozen times.  

and I'm not coming after you......you do a good job on yourself.  I was just advising you need to cool off after reading your earlier postings. 

Oh puh-leeeese!!!!  This statement coming from the one who dropped the F bomb on my other site (which I deleted btw)?   Is that why you could never put it into words?   You didn't seem to care about new users when you spoke there. 

maybe you stayed too long?  Let this be a lesson not to stare..........;)