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Open Letter To Gid

Open Letter To Gid

Hello Gid,

Since you do not offer me a chance to comment on your blog, I thought I would here.  I figured I had two choices.  One, to ignore what you said and the other to speak out on it.

I chose the latter.....obviously.

You said you expect, as a result of what you wrote, to see a flame blog from me?  Based on what?  When have I ever flamed anyone?  My articles are here for all to see and I've not once resorted to flame throwing.  Not once.   I have no use for such immaturity. 

I'm not here to flame you.

You say in your letter "Stopping By" that you have admitted yourself as being dysfunctional.  Well who isn't?  We all come from some sort of dysfunction.  There are no perfect families on the planet that I'm aware of.  I came from a dystunctional family as well.  But I don't wallow in it.  I choose to go on.  While you can't help what happened to you, you do have a choice to make sure it doesn't happen to your own family.  Sorry to say, you'd rather wallow in dysfuntion, then walk away from it.   Change begins with you Gid.   

You were very quick to attack the dysfunctional church. You gave much time to this subject.  From what I could see, they only wanted to help your family even if that meant calling in outside help.  You said no, they were not helping you, and since I wasn't there, what else could I say?   You say, I didn't see things?   You say I didn't notice you needed help? 

To the full extent you're right.  I didn't see the severity until afterwards.  Chalk it up to 20/20 hindsight.  But there were many, many red flags you waved and when I'd comment on them, you'd get very angry with me.  You didn't like me to go there remember?  Whenever I'd question you, you'd get angry.  Usually this centered around the church helping you or "not" helping you.   Whenever anyone would dare question you on CPS or the church you got very defensive.  So obviously you didn't want any advice nor were you looking for help.  You only wished for us to validate your feelings against all the "bad" people who were after you. 

As far as your depression goes that you mentioned in your earlier blogs....I know nothing about that.  I never go back and read old blogs.  I have only enough time to read the current blogs.  If you were in church, like I kept advising you to do, this would have been replaced....I'm sure of it.   Remember Elijah?  Even he got depressed.  He pulled himself away and felt sorry for himself.  He had to be reminded, it's not all about HIM. 

You accuse many of us beliving the rumor in the article that LW wrote.   It was easy to do.  First you disappeared and I was wondering where you were.  I actually posted somewhere that I was wondering where you went to and Tova gave me a link to LW's blog that answered my question.   Along with your disappearance and the pictures came TW's firsthand comments.  Why wouldn't we believe?   You came on and pretty much admitted it yourself.  Again, why wouldn't we believe?  If I remember right, I made one or two comments on LW's blog and it had no "bashing" qualities to it.   It was basically one of shock and 20/20 hindsight. 

After you came on to explain yourself, I sent you a personal message telling you that I was praying for you and your family which I will continue to do.   I'm not sure what else to do Gid. I considered you a friend.  One cannot help another unless they first want the help.  Remember even Jesus asked the lame man..."do you wish to be well?" 

As far as I was concerned, that was the last of it for me.  I would never, ever, kick anyone when they're down. 

I'm sorry Gid that you've had a bad time of it.   But you have only yourself to blame.  Only you can change this around.  Sometimes it's not all that bad to reach rock bottom.  Because it forces you to look up.  It's all you've got. 

Don't blame us for your shortcomings.  We all tried to help you.  You refused to be helped. 

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Reply #126 Top
Here's some a piece of advice from soneone who has been in confrontations with LW, and unless I'm mistaken, everyone here. J

Just cool off and move on. It doesn't do any good to drag on something like this. I kept things going that had long since become pointless, I also wouldn't take the advice of my peers even when I knew they were right.

Forget it and live life. This is a blogging site.

But hey, it's just some advice, take it or leave it.
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Normally I don't get involved in pointless fights with LW. But LW loves getting the upper hand in every argument she's involved in and I sometimes tire of her always wanting to have the last word as if we should quiver in fear of her tongue (there you happy I spelled it right?). She can dish it out, I'm sure she can take it as well, then again she did call me an asshole (forgive my language KFC), I usually see that as signs of running out of things to say. Now she's knit picking my words. Bit is actually a word:

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But it's ok for her to make typo's, not me though. Sad how low some have to go just to win a fight. It drives them nuts to go back to their last post and find a reply worse than theirs. Maybe you guys should be pointing the cold shower to her instead.
Reply #127 Top
Why do you need to keep harping on me and LW? Do you have some sort of fascination with the two of us? You must have said this same thing, between here and my other site , a half dozen times.

and I'm not coming after you......you do a good job on yourself. I was just advising you need to cool off after reading your earlier postings.
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Not really any fascination. I get replies and I respond back accordingly. But I'll do it simply because you asked nicely and this is your article. But don't expect me sit back and watch replies towards me go unanswered. Like I said, I can dish it out with the best of them. I'm normally a nice guy, but I have feelings too and I strike back when they are hurt in some way.
Reply #128 Top

Maybe you guys should be pointing the cold shower to her instead.
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well....you've got a point....there are times;P ......but I was just thinking you were (at the time) getting all riled up over nothing.....

I'm normally a nice guy, but I have feelings too and I strike back when they are hurt in some way.
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of course......but Charles you've been kind of on the attack taking the offensive lately here and there.  It takes alot of fortitude NOT to strike back when hit.  It's not the only alternative either.    At least try to reason with the other person first, even ignoring them can be beneficial at times. 

 

 

 

 

Reply #129 Top
Oh puh-leeeese!!!! This statement coming from the one who dropped the F bomb on my other site (which I deleted btw)? Is that why you could never put it into words? You didn't seem to care about new users when you spoke there.
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Huh? I did? Where did I drop the F word? Please point me there, cause I apologize. I've been trying hard to stop cussing, but it is challenging. And the putting it into words comes from that fact that my thought process, when I try to think, is completely off. It's like trying to think, but all the thoughts are whirling around. I'm ADD/ADHD. I'm on a plan to keep me focused and to help me in maintaining it all, but i slip.

Also, my concern isn't over the new users so much as it is:

When is it enough? When is it simply time to quit beating the dead horse and move on? I can say that it is now because having this topic brought up over and over again is just acceptable.
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It's a whole different issue when we continue to drag people through the mud all over the site.
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Yes, new users of this site really do need to handle things with gloves (as do we who've been here for awhile).

I may disagree with some of you, and others may get under my skin, but I like what is here: the sense of community, the debating (I've learned alot through debating and what not), and many other things.

Maybe I'm the exception to forgive and forget given the disgust felt towards me. Maybe I've got about the same chance as an icicle in hell, of gaining back what I had here when I first came here - respect, trust, and what not.

But I would like to. I'm actually pretty nice guy. I've got a big heart, like to think I'm halfway smart, and so on. I want to be a part of this community, to earn back everything, not to feel like a kicking bag whenever I come back.

I don't think many hear realize how much I have grown and changed, how what you saw then...the lying, the lashing out, the immaturity, that wasn't truly me. Heck, I don't know what it was, and I dont know how it could be explained if it was explained. All I know is that it wasn't the best time, that I was going through some serious craziness, and my mistakes, and everything that happened...it was like a snow ball effect. But even with all that, I've become better.

I know I messed up, but I just...I would really like one last final chance to gain back some amount of what was there.


Reply #130 Top
Ugh, im sorry. Didn't mean for it to sound like a pity party. I just got going, and well yeah. Delete it if you wish KFC.
Reply #131 Top
No SP....I won't. You were being upfront and honest and I have no beef with you. I don't have a history with you so I can't comment on alot you said except for the fact, I'm glad to see you growing and maturing. That's a good thing.

I deleted you on my other site because I really am against the profanity thing so as long as you can keep it decent, you'll be ok with me. Most know that already and respect my feeling on this.

I wrote you a note saying I deleted you so check your replies on my sites and you'll understand what I'm saying. I can't remember which article cuz I've got a few going on at the same time right now. It might be the Doomsday one.







Reply #132 Top
of course......but Charles you've been kind of on the attack taking the offensive lately here and there. It takes alot of fortitude NOT to strike back when hit. It's not the only alternative either. At least try to reason with the other person first, even ignoring them can be beneficial at times.
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And there lies my point. I usually just take it and move on. But I have learned that when people push and you don't push back, they keep pushing. I decided to stand my ground and push back. I did not strike first here, just in case. Reasoning with LW is a waste of time, I said something nice to her and she just blew me off, so, I decided to give her as much of a hard time as she does everyone else. Of course she now thinks she's special:

his fascination with me knows no end...
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Thats simply hilarious. You give her a little attention and she gets excited. Guess she's not use to it since most people simply back off, most likely out of fear. Hehe, I guess I'll have to accept people find it weird of me back talking to anyone around here.

Oh, and Charles? Neener-neener-neener.
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? OK? You stumped me. I guess you have this one.
Reply #133 Top
No SP....I won't. You were being upfront and honest and I have no beef with you. I don't have a history with you so I can't comment on alot you said except for the fact, I'm glad to see you growing and maturing. That's a good thing.

I deleted you on my other site because I really am against the profanity thing so as long as you can keep it decent, you'll be ok with me. Most know that already and respect my feeling on this.

I wrote you a note saying I deleted you so check your replies on my sites and you'll understand what I'm saying. I can't remember which article cuz I've got a few going on at the same time right now. It might be the Doomsday one.
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Thank you, and btw, I found the article, and it was the Doomsday one.
Reply #134 Top
I'm glad you got all of that off your chest. I hope you're feeling better now. So I am not a perfect speller, shoot me. I don't deny I suck when it comes to typing, still have a long way to go learning. But I admitted my mistakes, you still blame mr typo and now some medicine. But that's OK. I'm not much concerned about you. You can believe I might be the one in fear all you want (nice try BTW), great place this country, isn't it? Anyways, KFC is right(not trying anything here KFC), this is really going nowhere and it's getting boring now. I'll call of my dogs, don't want people on this site thinking I'm taking advantage of a person on drugs (and I mean the good kind).
Reply #135 Top

LW, I think you're doing damn fine job!  :)

As for whether or not this thread should die, as I said in my earlier comment: NO!

 

Reply #136 Top
I'm not afraid of disagreeing with LW Charles.

We can agree to disagree and move on.

But everything she's said on this particular thread about Gid...well, I think she is spot on.

She often expresses what I want to say, much much better than I could ever say it.



Reply #137 Top
I personally didn't want to contribute to this particular thread anymore for a lot of reasons. None of those reasons are to protect gid.

However, I had to answer this before I take off for a week. Charles you are a clown and you don't speak for me.

LW is right on in her assesment of this situation. She can speak for me on this subject.
Reply #138 Top
Yea baby, I figured you were looking to end this little game but I see you want it just as much alive as I do. OK.

There's an old saying in Puerto Rico:

"Si te pico, rascate"

Which means if the truth hurts. If you're guilty of not stepping up to LW they complain all you want. If you're not afraid of her then I am not sure what your complaining about. I love it when people get insulted over words not intended to them.

You don't get to declare a thread dead because *you* find it a bore, Charles. You've been taking this same poke at me all week (refer to post 158 for just a tiny sampling, tiny because I limited my quotes to those which insulted OTHER bloggers by insinuating they're somehow 'afraid' of me, if I quoted every instance of my name coming out of your mouth I'd have been here all morning) and now that I've responded, you're 'bored.' Uh huh, tell us another one, Charlie.
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Yea, it gets boring sometimes. But I'm over it. I pointed to the truth, if it bothers people, too bad. Those who have done it know I'm right. I've been reading on this site for years and I've seen them back off once your lashing begins. You even gave me a hard time the first time a made a comments that was a simple basic question that to this date I wonder why you needed to respond that way. But you always feel the need to put people down, to make them feel inferior, to shine above all. Now that I put up a fight you are scrambling to break me, pointing out spelling error, typos and bringing peoples names into our arguments. That's fine with me. If people on this site wanna get mad at me because they either get offended by words not meant for them or because the truth hurts I don't care anymore. I tire of being a nice guy only to get pushed around by the likes of you.

I'm not afraid of disagreeing with LW Charles.

We can agree to disagree and move on.
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I never said you were. I made my point to those who are afraid to stand up to her when she gets all loud like she usually does. If you have never backed down then you are not the people I'm talking about. Most of who I talk about have left this site already. Those who are still here, they'll probably get mad at me but oh well.

Reply #139 Top
Let's get one thing straight here, this whole argument started because I said something nice to LW and she's too blind to see anything good coming her way. She made, by far, the dumbest comment I ever seen her make and it offended me.

Speak for yourself here, Charles. I made several phone calls to the appropriate authorities and will continue to do so. In regards to making 'sacrifices' I have no idea where you're going with that, it almost seems as if you are bitching because no one's kidnapped these children away from Gid or physically attacked him. If that's the case then have at it and stop expecting criminal behavior from others that you aren't willing to perpetrate yourself.
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I never once called on breaking the law to help these children. But of course she was too busy looking for targets to scratch her itch that she chose to ignore when I said:

I'm glad you took some action, I figured if anyone you would but there lies my point. Legal actions keep people from taking action yet somehow it doesn't seem to bother them to come to a place like JU and bitch and moan about it (myself included).

My comments bugged some people? Duh, that was the point. I included myself in that list of people who were here crying about how bad they felt about these kids yet only LW had done something about it. But of course what can I expect, tell people the truth and they all get upset and wanna burn you on a stake. You all can get mad at me all you want but in the end we all know that most of us did nothing to truly help these kids knowing full well, with details, what they have been put thru. Hating me won't change the fact that we will all have to live with doing nothing but posting on this site. Except for LW, let me make sure I point that out before she gets defensive again.

Gid's probably sitting back getting a kick out of not being the center of attention on this article anymore. You're welcome.

Reply #140 Top
LW is a special sort that requires delicate handling. Of yourself. Because if you're wrong, stupid, ignorant, boring, etc. she'll come out and tell you. She doesn't pull punches and she doesn't care if she offends you or hurts your precious feelings in the process.

I've found she normally admits it when she's wrong, and then moves on.

What's to be afraid of here, Charles? Ooo, someone online doesn't like me 100%, how scary. Nothing to be afraid of here.
Reply #141 Top
I made my point to those who are afraid to stand up to her when she gets all loud like she usually does.


JU has sound?
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Wouldn't it be an . . . interesting endeavor . . . if it did?
Reply #142 Top
ok, you can stop now. This isn't about Charles.
Nor is it about LW...so let's just stop right here.


Reply #143 Top

I have a suggestion- how about everyone just stops with the flame wars or I dust off my exile button?  This crap needs to stop, and it needs to stop now. 

Have people forgotten how to discuss topics?  Or, have people completely lost their civility on this site?

Reply #144 Top
I had intentions of stopping but I was told I did not have the power to end this so.

What's to be afraid of here, Charles? Ooo, someone online doesn't like me 100%, how scary. Nothing to be afraid of here.
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Hehe, good one Jythier. Once upon a time I had that issue on this site, but I learned and got over it. I'm not here looking for best friends. I'm here looking for so decent debates whether I'm right or wrong about any topic. During my time here I learned not to open my mouth before I did my research. I'm not perfect so I'm always gonna foul up sooner or later again on a topic. If friendship happens to form, great. If not, oh well, life goes on. I'm here out of pure entertainment, be it a good debate, a funny joke or a long, dragged out, virtual fistfight. I tried the nice guy routine, all it got me was insults and a sense of being ignored. I decided to try something different; I figured I excelled in being annoying so why not embrace it?

No kidding. Charles seems to define courage as 'mouthing off to your intellectual superiors on the internet because you've stupidly misunderstood something they said and 'took offense.'
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LOL, no I don't believe that's courage. I'm well aware of the problems I'm causing myself here so I guess you can call it stupid if you want. I didn't talk to Brad the way I did because I thought I was, as you called me, being some kind of champion here. I argue for what I believe in, and I am honest in my beliefs and if it offends people then so be it. Enough with the feeling already as far as I'm concerned. I've always been told honesty is the best policy, don't know about that but it's sure good to get people all wound up.

Instead of asking me what I meant by that remark (as I was asking him to explain what he'd meant by his prior remark) would have been far too simple and not nearly as dramatic as using it to launch a tirade against me and label the rest of these participants as cowards for not doing the same.
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Ask you? Oh so you weren't trying to put me down, you were simply curious about what I meant. Sure. As if you ever take anything I say serious. No thanks. Besides, I like drama, something you are very familiar with. Even Jythier agrees:

LW is a special sort that requires delicate handling.
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Thank you Jythier for proving my point even though that was not your intention.

ok, you can stop now. This isn't about Charles.
Nor is it about LW...so let's just stop right here.
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You are correct. I will. LW can have the last word if she wants.

I have a suggestion- how about everyone just stops with the flame wars or I dust off my exile button? This crap needs to stop, and it needs to stop now.
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While some here would like to see you use that feature on me right now, I'm not truly looking for permanent expulsion. I'll cool off even if LW doesn't. I think enough is enough.

Have people forgotten how to discuss topics?
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I don't believe so, sometimes arguments like these tend to take away attention from the more interesting things on this site or any site for that matter.

Or, have people completely lost their civility on this site?
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It's possible, I for one have not sensed a lot of it lately and so I responded accordingly. No one is accustomed to see me act like a jerk around here so now they throw punches at me. Maybe I'll be seen as "a special sort that requires delicate handling" if I keep it up. That would be interesting. Then again I may not last long enough to get there with your finger on the exile trigger.
Reply #145 Top
Have people forgotten how to discuss topics? Or, have people completely lost their civility on this site?
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Reply #146 Top
LOL, sure made me laugh.
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hahahahaha
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hehe
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I tried the nice guy routine, all it got me was insults and a sense of being ignored.
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Yeah, and some how this will yield different results?

Since you asked me....You sound like a babbling buffoon, Charles.

Reply #150 Top

NO INTERRUPTING THE MINDLESS LEVITY!