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The Official, Unofficial November Update Thread

The Official, Unofficial November Update Thread

Hello, my babies! It is I, cuorebrave, who hath returned from paternity leave to reinvigorate your lives with Star Control talk, debates, arguments and bountiful sarcasm! Just in time to comment on the November Status Update!!!

In traditional (read:weird) SC:O forum posting tradition, BELOW, I will offer commentary in a second post, once it's up!!!

Damn, it feels good to be back!

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Reply #26 Top

Is it a good thing or a bad thing that you can tell she is wearing panties?

Reply #27 Top

Quoting IBNobody, reply 26

Is it a good thing or a bad thing that you can tell she is wearing panties?

 

Actually I think that's the bottom of the white shirt she's wearing under her uniform that you're seeing.

Reply #28 Top

Quoting Pyro411, reply 27

Actually I think that's the bottom of the white shirt she's wearing under her uniform that you're seeing.

Shh... You'll ruin Hunam's fantasy.

He's currently playing his favorite guessing game: "What color are they?"

Reply #29 Top

Quoting IBNobody, reply 24

This thread right now...



 

Honestly, I don't care. However, her 2D arched back pose makes her look like she's thrusting her chest at you. Is that the look that SD is going for?

My God, truer words have never been spoken! Thank you, IBN, you've moved up eleven spots in my ranking of people I like! 

Reply #30 Top

WHERE?

BOOBS?

I read boobs?

well... flat chest is sexy too

but i don't want to talk about my fetishes...

we would need more pages

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Reply #31 Top

Quoting IBNobody, reply 28

Shh... You'll ruin Hunam's fantasy.

He's currently playing his favorite guessing game: "What color are they?"

 

That or I put the thought in his mind that she's wearing *gasp* none!

 

Hmm wait, she's not a Syreen in disguise is she?

Reply #32 Top

Damn it, I derailed my own thread! 

Reply #33 Top

Quoting cuorebrave, reply 32

Damn it, I derailed my own thread! 

Relevant:

 

Now can we get back on track and talk about other things? :P

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Reply #34 Top

I am getting a blank screen when I try to get into the vault, maybe it's just a temporary thing or something.  I'll try again later.

I actually like the 2D version of the girl better than the 3D version... 

 

Reply #35 Top

What's the average bra size of syreen?

I want to know what to stock up on for christmas :D

Reply #36 Top

Anyway!

 

I just downloaded the nov update and took a quick look :).

It's quite nice too see the focus on modding it. This was also always my intention if I ever made a Star Control clone, that the story was easily modifyable and not in code, so designers can make their own universes.

I hope the modding tools are made in such a way that it is easy to add huge amounts of planets/systems, so we can also add parts of the original star control universe easily (I still have an XML file lying around containing every system and every planet in the SC2 universe).

One question though: Will we be able to mod the ships as well? I understand the ships themselves won't be modular but would it be easy to create new weapons and special abilities?

By the way, I LOVE the cartoony style of the crashing alien. It reminds me a lot of Toejam & Earl (a game which I believe one of the original SC2 people also worked for). The commander afterwards is a bit too serious / star trekky for me (even though I'm a huge star trek fan I believe SC should aim for a bit less serious comedic space opera).

Speaking of which, I thought the voice acting in SC2 was horrible. Squeeky modified voices. Please don't do that in SC:O :). SC3 had waaaay better voice acting so hopefully it could be a bit more like that.

One last request: Please give those ZIP files an extension. It makes life easier for us windows users ;)

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Reply #37 Top

^ Couldn't disagree with you more on everything.

Reply #38 Top

Quoting Hunam_, reply 37

^ Couldn't disagree with you more on everything.

Okay :(

Reply #39 Top

Quoting Hunam_, reply 37

^ Couldn't disagree with you more on everything.

Ca'mon, man. Don't be mean. If you disagree, post a counter-argument.

Quoting maanvis26, reply 36

One last request: Please give those ZIP files an extension. It makes life easier for us windows users 

They are zips for me. Win 10 and Win 7. Maybe you turned off the option to show extensions accidentally?

Reply #40 Top

Quoting IBNobody, reply 39


They are zips for me. Win 10 and Win 7. Maybe you turned off the option to show extensions accidentally?

Nope, it downloads just without the extension. so only 'star' not 'star control xxxx.zip' :)

I know the problem though. Files are spaced with '+' and that causes firefox to download it as 'Star' without an extension.

Star+Control+-+Nov+2016.zip

In chrome downloading gives me the correct filename :).

Reply #41 Top

Quoting IBNobody, reply 39


Quoting Hunam_,

^ Couldn't disagree with you more on everything.


Ca'mon, man. Don't be mean. If you disagree, post a counter-argument.

 

SC2 3DO voice-overs were perfect. SC3 voice-overs were not better than SC2, but absolutely on par with SC2. Cartoony style crashing sucks balls 'cause I'm not 5 anymore, I guess. It just clashes with SC2 mood in my imagination.

Reply #42 Top

Quoting Hunam_, reply 41


Quoting IBNobody,






Quoting Hunam_,



^ Couldn't disagree with you more on everything.


Ca'mon, man. Don't be mean. If you disagree, post a counter-argument.




 

SC2 3DO voice-overs were perfect. SC3 voice-overs were not better than SC2, but absolutely on par with SC2. Cartoony style crashing sucks balls 'cause I'm not 5 anymore, I guess. It just clashes with SC2 mood in my imagination.

Well, SC2's voices are for kiddie's too. When I first heard a spathi talk I immediately turned voices off. The voices in most kiddie's shows these days are less squeaky.

https://youtu.be/CSPOgsSEhrQ?t=26m2s

The voice actors for SC3 were professionals and still active in (voice) acting for many games to come after that.

Besides that, SC3 voice actors weren't mostly done with many effects to twist their voice into something alien.

Reply #44 Top

Well, this conversation has died within one day. 

I guess I'll put my critique of the opening cinematic here, then:

Direct Response to the Intro-Animatic:

Star Control II humor, misunderstood.

Name one scene in SCII that was goofy, silly bumbling around like a silly, silly clown trying to catch a big, silly red ball, but bumbling it from hand to hand, never really catching it but bumping it back up into the air, while his big ol' clown feet keep getting caught up in a rope, before finally slipping on a banana peel.

Whooooaaa whoooa whoa whoaaaaaaa *slide whistle* WHOOPS! *thud* *Puff of smoke where he landed*

I half-expect the crashed Tywom to convince you to stare into the fake flower pinned to his chest, before triggering a jet of water to shoot out of it and sill-ily squirt you in the face.

It's not that exaggerated, I know. But I feel like if I come out strongly enough against the current direction, it might just get altered. This is a misunderstanding.

Star Control II is less about exaggerated, slapstick cartoons twirling about the galaxy and making silly jokes like the above. Less this kind of "HA-HA funny" slapstick absurdity...

And MORE "Ha-ha I just genocided an entire race because I thought it'd be a good joke, isn't that funny? ISN'T IT?! No? Combat stations, everyone" kind of funny.

The ships were not goofy. They didn't collide with a ballistic projectile and crazily bounce away in a goofy way.

The alien designs were not goofy, flinging their arms up in the air in the face of death.

The occurences and choices you made were not goofy.

The planets were not goofy. 

There were billions of deaths, some of them caused by you, directly or indirectly.

Sure the Shofixti said, "I will hang your withered reproductive organs from my posterior monitor! Kyaiee!" and it makes you laugh, but then a very real creature, the last of his race, set a suicide bombing course straight for your ship, ready to vaporize himself in a last-ditch effort for his species to DIE in a blaze of glory. And if you let him, the entire thousands-of-year history of a sentient race of star-faring fox-like creatures was wiped out from the annals of history because of your carelessness. Those problems are real.

This is the mood you're going for here. A very real universe, of very real, quirky races of creatures, locked in a battle to the very real and final death, told in a witty, light-hearted way. And THAT'S why it's so funny! Its light-hearted and irreverent dealings, with very real graphics and very real setting and very real consequences.

If you miss out on that, you've missed out on all of the things.

There is some good news!!! When lady-captain wakes you up and calls you into her office, one of the responses (well, two lol) is: "Hello aliens. We come in peace." Hah! You're a human, as if you don't know she's also one! I like the irreverent tone, and her expression seems to say, "Very funny, wiseguy." This is good. This is very good, letting you as captain, crack wise to your superior officer ;) I will most-definitely be choosing that option!!!

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Reply #45 Top

I think you never really met a pkunk swearing to replenish his energy or a spathi talking about which color stones to throw at enemies from trees in your playthrough if you didn't think it was goofy .. or a zoq-fot-pik pik going haywire over FRUNGY while being named after the way that dutch people call a penis ;).

Reply #46 Top

I agree that the humor should be more intelligent and clever than slapstick and silly... but at the same time I fully support dropping a 16-Ton anvil on a character at some point during the story.

Hahahaha!!!

 

Reply #47 Top

Quoting maanvis26, reply 45

I think you never really met a pkunk swearing to replenish his energy or a spathi talking about which color stones to throw at enemies from trees in your playthrough if you didn't think it was goofy .. or a zoq-fot-pik pik going haywire over FRUNGY while being named after the way that dutch people call a penis .

Those are different styles of comedy than the Tywom doing a Wile E. Coyote impression in the opening cinematic.

I love slapstick. I love physical comedy. But this is not the Star Control way. (On the other hand... SCO is Not Star Control.)

 

CB: Remember that the writer that SD hired on is Chris Bucholz. You can judge his comedy style from his work on cracked.com. Did he play a part in the storyboard of the opening cinematic? We don't know, and SD probably won't tell us.

Reply #48 Top

Quoting IBNobody, reply 47


Quoting maanvis26,

I think you never really met a pkunk swearing to replenish his energy or a spathi talking about which color stones to throw at enemies from trees in your playthrough if you didn't think it was goofy .. or a zoq-fot-pik pik going haywire over FRUNGY while being named after the way that dutch people call a penis .



Those are different styles of comedy than the Tywom doing a Wile E. Coyote impression in the opening cinematic.

I love slapstick. I love physical comedy. But this is not the Star Control way. (On the other hand... SCO is Not Star Control.)

 

CB: Remember that the writer that SD hired on is Chris Bucholz. You can judge his comedy style from his work on cracked.com. Did he play a part in the storyboard of the opening cinematic? We don't know, and SD probably won't tell us.

oh come on a spathi would react exactly the same as the tywom did :). Probably even worse, claws in the air running around crazily.

Reply #49 Top

Quoting maanvis26, reply 48

oh come on a spathi would react exactly the same as the tywom did . Probably even worse, claws in the air running around crazily.

Did they ever fall to a planet in a puff of smoke? No? Case closed.

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Reply #50 Top

Quoting IBNobody, reply 47


Quoting maanvis26,
 
CB: Remember that the writer that SD hired on is Chris Bucholz. You can judge his comedy style from his work on cracked.com. Did he play a part in the storyboard of the opening cinematic? We don't know, and SD probably won't tell us.

Omg, I knew I remembered it was a Cracked guy, but the designer's name on SCO is Soren Johnson... and so I thought it was Soren BOWIE (also a Cracked writer)... so then I searched the forums to make sure it was Soren Bowie and came up with the name Soren Johnson, I said to myself, "Huh. I guess I was wrong about the writer being from Cracked... until this very minute when you reminded me that it's Chris Bucholz instead of Soren Bowie! THANKS!

That being said, Cracked isn't really slapstick, is it? I always read their articles because they would take very real, explicit, serious issues and make funny jokes about them! I would have thought he'd be perfect for this adult, serious-funny take on the universe! Somehow, the humor has taken on a different form. And aside from that line at the end, is more clown-funny than black humor-funny.

Also, if an anvil falls from the sky right onto someone's head, I will spend my days trying "as hard as I can, to see if I can't make myself catch on fire. And if I ever pull it off, noobie? I will be back here to destroy this place." - Dr. Cox