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Sins of a Solar Empire®: Rebellion gets its first DLC pack!

Sins of a Solar Empire®: Rebellion gets its first DLC pack!

rebellion-logo_fullThe popular PC space strategy game, Sins of a Solar Empire: Rebellion from Ironclad Games and Stardock Entertainment, will be getting its first downloadable content on June 5th. "Forbidden Worlds" adds new planet types, planet specialization, technologies, planetary bonuses and additional Steam achievements all for $4.99.

The war between the loyalists and the rebels within the TEC, Advent and Vasari continues within the depths of Trader Space. Yet, this sector of the galaxy has far more worlds and history than any of the factions are aware. The need to survive forces each to expand into the unknown, discovering worlds of hazard, wealth, risk, and mystery. Most ominously, the Trader factions have been loathe to expand to these worlds due to the dark myths that surround them.

Feature List:

  • Four new planet types to colonize and exploit (Barren, Ferrus, Greenhouse, Oceanic), each created with beautiful high-res textures.
  • New Planet Specialization System: Dedicate your worlds to either social or industrial output. Devoting your planet to social improvements will increase its population and culture, at the cost of trade income and ship production. Choosing an industrial path will limit your growth and culture, but make your planet a trading and ship building powerhouse.
  • 15 new research subjects allow the races to conquer and expand onto the forbidden worlds.
  • Discover 40 new planet bonuses during your exploration of the galaxy, unlocking the dark past of the Sins’ universe.
  • Unlock five new Steam Achievements and display your mastery of forbidden space!

The Forbidden Worlds DLC will be available direct, as well as on Steam, GameStop, GamersGate and GameFly.

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About Stardock
Stardock is a leading developer and publisher of PC games and desktop software. Its PC games include Sins of a Solar Empire and the critically acclaimed Galactic Civilizations series.  It’s desktop software includes Start8, Fences, WindowBlinds, ModernMix, and more. Visit www.stardock.com.

About Ironclad
Ironclad Games is the creator, owner and developer behind the top selling and critically acclaimed Sins of a Solar Empire series. Learn more by visiting www.ironcladgames.com.

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Reply #76 Top

Quoting Timmaigh, reply 75
Obviously, under assumption, this is actually technically possible, given the RAM limitations - i realize it would require new models with textures and all of that needs RAM and more RAM. But perhaps they´ll find a way as with Forbidden Worlds

not possible, they already drastically reduced texture quality in a lot of areas and removed the 2nd terran, 2nd ice, 2nd desert and 2nd volcanic. Really, this game has had its fill, time to upgrade the entire game and give me back my quality models.

Reply #77 Top

@Bilun - The culture bonus is a percentage increase of what the planet is generating currently; with the total amount being determined by planet type (i.e., Terran and Oceanic are better for social specialization, so can be upgrading further than say a Volcanic).  The max culture bonus is 100%.

@Ibnpatuta - No trailer is planned, but we'll post some screenshots on the site once we finalize the planet textures.

@Timmaigh - Forbidden Worlds contains 40 planet bonuses; the original game only has 37, so I think I did enough. :P  Unfortunately given current limitations, we cannot add more races or even very many more meshes, without blowing our RAM safety limit.

Reply #78 Top

Quoting Yarlen, reply 77

@Bilun - The culture bonus is a percentage increase of what the planet is generating currently; with the total amount being determined by planet type (i.e., Terran and Oceanic are better for social specialization, so can be upgrading further than say a Volcanic).  The max culture bonus is 100%.

@Ibnpatuta - No trailer is planned, but we'll post some screenshots on the site once we finalize the planet textures.

@Timmaigh - Forbidden Worlds contains 40 planet bonuses; the original game only has 37, so I think I did enough.  Unfortunately given current limitations, we cannot add more races or even very many more meshes, without blowing our RAM safety limit.

 The number of those new bonuses is not a problem, its their nature - i assume they are going to be some kind modifiers/multiplicators, giving the planet in question ability to hold more population, or some trade income bonus, or few percent faster ship construction etc, etc... that is all nice and well, but it is still just different numbers. That is not as exciting, as it could be, if in order to take these bonuses you would have to beat some fancy new opponents, like left over ancient starbase, small alien fleet with some unique abilities, etc... 

Anyway, what does very many means? :)  Cause i obviously was not thinking about many and by additional races/factions i mean maybe 3-5 with 1-2 new unique units each.  Is that way too much?

 

 

Reply #79 Top

It means due to engine limitations they just can't add any new models and textures since if they do they're likely to exceed the 2GB RAM limit, which means the game will minidump/crash every time someone tries to play a game.  The only way we're getting a major expansion to Sins at this point is with Sins 2.

Reply #80 Top

May I suggest that social specialization also increase allegiance?  Going to be hard to choose culture + population over trade + production when trade dominates your income source (population is mitigated by allegiance) and the "social" planets like terrans are actually the best for production since they hold the most structures..

Reply #81 Top

Great news!

 

But I must ask again:

-When You guys release playable Pirate Fraction?

 

Reply #82 Top

Quoting SpardaSon21, reply 79

It means due to engine limitations they just can't add any new models and textures since if they do they're likely to exceed the 2GB RAM limit, which means the game will minidump/crash every time someone tries to play a game.  The only way we're getting a major expansion to Sins at this point is with Sins 2.

If that was true, he would probably say "we cannot add any new meshes" - instead of "very many",

I am not native english speaker, so i may be wrong though. 

 

Reply #83 Top

Quoting MacGyver2, reply 81
-When You guys release playable Pirate Fraction?

Never.

Reply #84 Top

Quoting Timmaigh, reply 82
If that was true, he would probably say "we cannot add any new meshes" - instead of "very many",

I am not native english speaker, so i may be wrong though.

The way I interpreted it was since their options for adding new meshes are extremely limited they're just not going to bother.  Right now the only way around that 2GB is with modular folders like a few mods have done, but that just isn't possible for the base game.  This of course is why everyone wants a 64-bit engine so the 2GB limit goes bye-bye and everyone can start adding a crapton of new stuff again.

There's also the constant calls for multi-threading, but that's really only to deal with late-game lag since Sins runs entirely on one CPU core instead of the 4 cores people commonly have.

Reply #85 Top

Quoting Yarlen, reply 77

@Bilun - The culture bonus is a percentage increase of what the planet is generating currently; with the total amount being determined by planet type (i.e., Terran and Oceanic are better for social specialization, so can be upgrading further than say a Volcanic).  The max culture bonus is 100%.

 

Well that is very exciting to hear!  :D

 

And on the nitty gritty level, from what you've described it, it sounds like a mulitiplicative increase(with respect to to existing +x% culture rate tech tree upgrade).  AM I correct in this assumption?  Which is to say with perhaps +50% culture rate from techs would a social-specialized Terran planet be putting out 300%  (1+.5)*2  or 250% (1+1) of it's original base culture rate from culture structures?

Reply #86 Top

FYI, I can confirm what Yarlen said earlier...make sure you have your texture filtering set to at least 4x if you want to avoid polar pinching!

So, just to clarify...there will be no new icons/pictures for the new textures, right?  So, modders, we dealing with those?

Reply #87 Top

Quoting Yarlen, reply 77

@Bilun - The culture bonus is a percentage increase of what the planet is generating currently; with the total amount being determined by planet type (i.e., Terran and Oceanic are better for social specialization, so can be upgrading further than say a Volcanic).  The max culture bonus is 100%.

@Ibnpatuta - No trailer is planned, but we'll post some screenshots on the site once we finalize the planet textures.

@Timmaigh - Forbidden Worlds contains 40 planet bonuses; the original game only has 37, so I think I did enough.  Unfortunately given current limitations, we cannot add more races or even very many more meshes, without blowing our RAM safety limit.

 

Thank you for your response, Yarlen - I look forward to the screenshots.

 

One question, though - will the newly added planet bonuses have major effects on the planets they are on? At the moment, the bonuses are relatively minor (except for Space Ponies), and I was wondering if the new ones would affect the planets in more drastic ways.

Reply #88 Top

I love the informed (modders/long time sinners?) vs. ill-informed comments in here.  Shows who has the colors.

Quoting JSW_Ballz, reply 74

I suppose I could complain about copying, but I like Stardock too much.  Also, I've missed Sins Plus, and UZI might be kinda pleased to see his old mod resurrected like this.  It'll definitely be nice to have people playing it's offspring in MP.

(Oceanic, Forest, Urban, Barren -> Oceanic, Greenhouse, Ferrus, Barren)

Only two of those planets are similar.  Ferrus planets are hollow planets, and Greenhouse planets contain large CO2 atmospheres.  Doesn't have to mean a plant world (let alone, forest dominated).

Reply #89 Top

Quoting Ibnpatuta, reply 87
One question, though - will the newly added planet bonuses have major effects on the planets they are on? At the moment, the bonuses are relatively minor (except for Space Ponies), and I was wondering if the new ones would affect the planets in more drastic ways.

Depends on the bonus in question. There are several that are extremely powerful, like Fortress World. Others, such as if you discover a planet with an existing government, have many effects.

Quoting Seleuceia, reply 86
So, just to clarify...there will be no new icons/pictures for the new textures, right?  So, modders, we dealing with those?

No new icons; there won't be new pictures for the existing planet types.

Reply #90 Top

Quoting Yarlen, reply 89
There are several that are extremely powerful, like Fortress World.

 

Hmm sounds interesting, gives exploration a bit more taste in single player mode, I like it :) At last not all will be useless or small bonuses like in the original game where no planet bonus has high impact on anything..

Reply #91 Top

Quoting XATHOS, reply 88
Ferrus planets are hollow planets,

 

You know something about Ferrus worlds? Can you tell me from where did you get your information and what is a Ferrus world exactly? I was unable to find this expression on the internet, though I am familiar with exoplanet types and categories so it bothers me much that a common planet type (because it will be incorporated in Sins..) and I haven't even heard about it..

Reply #92 Top

I would be interested in that too. And what is Fortress World, that sounds good.

Reply #93 Top

Quoting ShotmanMaslo, reply 19

What is a Ferrus planet?

Kinda sounds like it will be a special planet, like the gas giant.  Maybe a massive electromagnetic field disrupts electronics?

 

Either way it sounds like a good DLC, just wish they were more clear on what it contained.

Reply #94 Top

Giving a statement made by Yarlen earlier, this (or something similar) is probably the inspiration for the new planet types...

http://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/starsgalaxies/earthsized_planets.html

I would assume the "Ferrus" planet is basically a pure iron planet...

If I may make a suggestion, change the name to Ferrous as that makes far more sense....

Reply #95 Top

Quoting Seleuceia, reply 94
I would assume the "Ferrus" planet is basically a pure iron planet...

exactly . with high gravity

Ferrous (Fe2+), in chemistry, indicates a divalent iron compound (+2 oxidation state), as opposed to ferric, which indicates a trivalent iron compound (+3 oxidation state).[1] This usage has mostly been deprecated, with current IUPAC nomenclature with names containing the oxidation state in bracketed roman numerals instead, such as iron (III) oxide for Fe2O3.

Reply #96 Top

This will be a great DLC. Well worth my $5 and i wish you could pre-order the DLC already. So want it now! LOL. But can wait. :) When i read the facebook page post on this DLC i mentioned to all my Sins friends who had not seen the post and they were like. I want it already. LOL. Stradock Entertainment and Sins of a Solar Empire franchise certainly know what their players want!

Great Job. Keep the great potential DLC's and expansions coming to a great game franchise!

gumble

Reply #97 Top

Quoting Turchany, reply 91


Quoting XATHOS, reply 88 Ferrus planets are hollow planets,

 

You know something about Ferrus worlds? Can you tell me from where did you get your information and what is a Ferrus world exactly? I was unable to find this expression on the internet, though I am familiar with exoplanet types and categories so it bothers me much that a common planet type (because it will be incorporated in Sins..) and I haven't even heard about it..

Yup - here you go: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_planet

I just thought Iron sounded kinda meh, so I went with Ferrus for the naming.

 

Quoting Timmaigh, reply 92

I would be interested in that too. And what is Fortress World, that sounds good.

You'll find out. It's lore-related, otherwise I'd tell. ;)

 

Reply #98 Top

Quoting Yarlen, reply 97
Iron sounded kinda meh

 

You are right, the name is awesome and creative, though I expected you to use existing planet types, but it's ok, this sounds good and suggest what this planet is. The lack of reference caused me to get disoriented on what it might be, I knew it has something to do with iron just wasn't sure.

Reply #99 Top

Quoting Yarlen, reply 97


Quoting Turchany, reply 91

Quoting XATHOS, reply 88 Ferrus planets are hollow planets,

 

You know something about Ferrus worlds? Can you tell me from where did you get your information and what is a Ferrus world exactly? I was unable to find this expression on the internet, though I am familiar with exoplanet types and categories so it bothers me much that a common planet type (because it will be incorporated in Sins..) and I haven't even heard about it..

Yup - here you go: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_planet

I just thought Iron sounded kinda meh, so I went with Ferrus for the naming.

 


Quoting Timmaigh, reply 92
I would be interested in that too. And what is Fortress World, that sounds good.

You'll find out. It's lore-related, otherwise I'd tell.

 

Aaaah. cant wait.

BTW, this lore related stuff, and things tied to a "dark past of Sins universe" - where is it going to be "described" or "explained"? I doubt the planet ingame infocard is going to hold info in regard to what Fortress world is lore-wise, And obviously, there wont be any campaign or some kind of opening cinematic i guess... there is no "encyclopedia" inside the game either. So are these things going to be posted here on the site, under that lore section, or is it going to be part of the manual?

Apropos, talking about campaign. I think, if you consider other DLCs for the game in the future (and you should, unless you plan to work on Sins 2 right away), this would be probably  a right time for the campaign/scenarios (as DLC). Personally i would prefer more of the gameplay related stuff to be added, as i am not really into playing SP campaigns (i only ever finished Homeworld campaign and regret not finishing Star Command Revolution), but given the fact, you cant really add a lot due to the RAM limitations.... i guess lot of people would be actually happy, if you finally gave them some "missions" to beat. And more narrative along the way. 

 

Reply #100 Top

Quoting Pat_22_, reply 37

I'm excited about this. I want to know what that black planet is.

I SHALL MAKE IT MY HOMEWORLD.

(unless it turns out it's some sort of horrible death planet)

Especially if it's some sort of horrible death planet.  }:)