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Warrantless Police GPS searches ruled illegal

Warrantless Police GPS searches ruled illegal

This looked like totally the kind of thread DrJBHL would post, so I thought I would post this one.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/23/justice/scotus-gps-tracking/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

Although the guy in this court case was guilty, the precedent the Supreme Court would have set in convicting him would have been very disturbing.  In the end, the Supreme court ruled unanimously that the police sticking a GPS on your car without your knowledge or a warrant is illegal (although the justices differ on exactly the extent that wireless tapping is illegal).   You can imagine the state we would be in if the government had been allowed to stick a GPS on your car, at any time, for any reason. 

Unfortunately, with all the talk of obsoleting toll roads and simply taxing us based on the number of miles we drive, the police may get what they wished for anyway:

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090217/1353483804.shtml

The argument is that it's fairer to tax people who drive more than those who drive less.  Same for auto insurance rates.  While true, at what cost?  The government would have knowledge of your every move in your car.   However, I think this move to tax us per-mile suffered a serious setback with the Supreme Court case today.

 

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Reply #76 Top

This is a small part of a documentary I have from before the housing bubble burst. I like the analogy of the 6 Asians and 1 American stuck on an island. Interviews the wall streeters and banksters

 

Reply #77 Top

Also...the greater the time spent commuting to and from work...the less of your life there is to actually benefit from it..and the greater likelihood you will die doing it.

Computers and home offices thankfully have helped quite a bit...but obviously won't help for everyone.

Reply #78 Top

Quoting Jafo, reply 75
The US would need to add about $2 per gallon in taxes to catch up to what most other countries pay 'for petrol' at a pump.

As said, all "countries" pay pretty much the same. The difference in price to individuals is due entirely to domestic government policy. Higher fuel taxes would only mean people in the US (who can't afford it) paying more money to other people in the US (who can't do anything with it to solve the problem).

There are no practical alternatives to the current individual transit "problem" in the US, and no policy change will push any known alternatives over the top into feasibility in the near future. So what you're asking amounts to little more than a regressive wealth redistribution scheme. Whether it's out of naivete, jealousy, or malice, I couldn't begin to guess. But it is most certainly foolish.

As time goes on, prices will inevitably rise, but at the same time, alternative technologies will continue to mature. The government already offers massive subsidies for the development of "clean" technologies. But as evidenced by the prices for such, they're still far from practical. Strapping the little guy down and sticking him in the rear isn't going to change that--only time can.

Reply #79 Top

I have an idea:

Smash the GPS with a hammer, and throw it into a lake (or bury it).  Or use the GPS as a dogs' chew toy.  Throw the GPS tracker to Fido as a frizbee.  That would fool the Feds, because the device would still be in motion.  Once destroyed, the Feds can't track you, and you'll once again regain privacy (for now...). *_*

Although you would get in SERIOUS trouble if the Feds found out you broke it and it "belonged" to you.

And i'm only joking.  I don't think this will pass anyway (yet...) :borg:

Reply #80 Top

I think I vaguely remember an incident where someone discovered a GPS on their car, and they had very serious charges levelled against them for tampering with government property...which they never wanted on their car in the first place, no one told them it was government property, no one told them it was there. 

 

There are no practical alternatives to the current individual transit "problem" in the US, and no policy change will push any known alternatives over the top into feasibility in the near future.

You're already resigned to failure.  Not good.

 

Reply #81 Top

Quoting tetleytea, reply 80
You're already resigned to failure.

Hardly. The point is that only time and necessity can drive innovation. Artificially inflating prices to punish people for something they can't change and funneling the cash to whoever gives the right "campaign donations" does not.

Reply #82 Top

Quoting kryo, reply 81
Artificially inflating prices to punish people for something they can't change and funneling the cash to whoever gives the right "campaign donations" does not.

Which is why every politician should have a bullet with their name on it... and when they fuck up and/or fail to serve the people who elected them, they buy that bullet.  There's just too much corrupt deadwood sitting around in political establishments sucking the life's blood out of their electorates.

As one might conclude, I don't like politicians... nor bankers. :grin:

Reply #83 Top

As one might conclude, I don't like politicians... nor bankers.

Edit.


 Did I spot a pirate in the crowd?   XD

Reply #84 Top

Sadly, Gillard survived and will continue doing a disservice to Australia by remaining PM/in office. >:(

Quoting myfist0, reply 83
Did I spot a pirate in the crowd?

Aye me bucko, I 'ad one o' me men thar.... 'e stealed one of 'er shoes wiv the idea o' chuckin' it at' er, but them thar minders got in tha way 'n it missed.

:w00t:

Reply #85 Top

starkers...

That attack on your PM ... ANY PM is unacceptable behaviour suitable ONLY for some pathetic excuse for a third world country.

The fact is "IT'S UN-AUSTRALIAN' in the truest sense of a much-maligned phrase.

I don't care that you hate the PM, but I care LESS for your comment here.

Reply #86 Top

Quoting Jafo, reply 85
I don't care that you hate the PM, but I care LESS for your comment here.

Yeah, it was a bit over the top... but then so is she, well a lot over the top, not that we'll get an apology from her.

Anyhow, I'm not really a thug and do not condone violence, especially against women.