gj again stardock impulse all of you

after 5 fails it is downloading now but stopping all the time for several minutes

i love you guys, you really know how to make patches and distribute them

good job

I ca't get the patch, do I eed Impulse just to get it.

Sorry for poor spellig ut I eed a ew keyoard ad FireFox does't seem to work with Rich Text, so copy paste does't work.

Yes, you need Impulse to get the 1.1 patch.

The v1.1 update is available via Impulse only (http://www.impulsedriven.com).

Dam, oh well. It's ot like I really eed the patch ayway.

Grr, dam this keyoard.

Will someone explain the benefits of using Impulse, when clearly its a disservice to the people who use it? - especially those behind a bitchy firewall?

Smaller download sizes.

Quicker patching (using patchers makes for a lot of developer 'overhead' work, so more time can be spent patching, less time testing the stuff to install the patch).

Ease of use -- 99.9% of people have no troubles running Impulse, and so far most of the problems have been 'growing pains' that have quickly been ironed out.

Patch Control -- this is an SD benefit, this lets them more easily control who the patch gets to, preventing pirates from going anywhere.

Well that's pretty dumb.  I really REALLY don't like auto-updates and prefer to have stand alone patches.  Wasn't a big deal to simply login to the site to get the 1.05 update many months ago and was expecting the same for 1.1.

Definitely NOT too thrilled with having to use Impulse to get it.  I'm not knocking Impulse.  I'm just set in my old ways and prefer to have a manual update.

The manual updates were only available as Impulse was not ready for distribution, so they provided them as an alternative. It is in the manual that Impulse is how Sins is updated...

I have to say good job stardock. The download of 1.1 took only about a minute it was fast as hell. The game itself is even more amazing now to. The graphics look a lot better and so do the new meshes. The AI is a lot smarter than it used to be to which is nice. All in all keep it up Brad and Stardock good job. Looking forward to seeing  entrenchemnt now.

Impulse works fine through college firewalls.  You're thinking of a different though very well known game download manager.

Anyway, this is about Sins v1.1.  If you want to complain about a download manager, feel free to create a thread about it.

Thanks for the update.

My Sins is running with 1.1 now.

Simply put, I don't understand the details either :D  But, in essance, where a patcher has to contain all the code and data to modify files to a new standard, Impulse can simply read which files you need and download the new ones for you.  (As I said, I only barely understand it -- forgive me )

As far as it being a blatant lie...  Nope.  Exageration?  Probably.  But 99% is probably close to the truth.  Now, as far as colleges go...  I run impulse when I'm at school all the time, and have no trouble, so let me assure you college campus firewalls aren't a problem (in general).  And its a statistical fact that people are more likely to show up and complain when things are going wrong, than to drop by to say 'thanks for eveyrthing going great!'  From what I've heard, Sins has sold in the vicinity of a half million copies.  Lets say 33% try to patch; that leaves us with (around) 150,000 people to work with.  Lets assume 1% have trouble patching, that leaves us with 1,500 people with problems.  If ten percent of those show up here to complain...  we have 150 whiners.  I imagine more than 33% try to patch -- I'd guess at near 75-80% -- and I'd actually bet that more than 10% of 'failures' show up here to complain.  Add in the 'pirate whiners', and you get a lot more people than we're seeing here.

So, in short, your serve

What the heck... Ive tried and retried to download the patch 4 times now.  Every time it gets to 100% but says:

"Experiencing network difficulties (100.0%) - The operation has timed out"

Any help?

Edit: Remedy though crappy... uninstall and reinstall the game.

The new underground window is the great addition to the user interface. Good job!

My 1.1 experience:

first my impulse was out of date. i went to the hp downloaded new version, installed it, but every time i got a some kind of serious error and impulse try to restarted and failed every time. deinstalled impulse. reinstalled. searching cd key. add registration. finally. first problem solved

after 5 fails it finally started to download with a lot of breaks. it took me 2 hours to retrieve the patch

surprisingly installation worked without problems

started the game at about 8 o´clock CET.... WOW 48 people online. amazing

opened a 2v2 and after some quality time of waiting i got a game

everything worked fine, until the fight started and we realized that the whole game ran out of sync at one point and everyone is playing his own game.

conclusio:

i am deeply surprised how you managed to do such a horrible job on a patch you worked so long on. and your patch distribution is a insolence

i buy several computer games every year, but this is the worst support i have ever seen. i mean, yeah you are nice people and stay in touch with the community, thats not what i mean with worst.

worst = very poor technical skills and bad management

conte

I am thinking maybe this is just a few people who are having problems and we are only really hearing from the people who are dissapointed. Impulse worked perfectly for me and I expect many others as well. Although it is not nice to have difficulty getting the patch lets not blow this out of proprortion and start accusing stardock of being a bad company as there are always going to be technical problems with PC games.

On one computer it was OK in my case, however my second computer had problems with Galactic civilisation II. I had to clear temporary file directory and Impulse worked fine again. There may be a problem after bad download being stored in the computer. I guess Impulse use the bad one from temp instead of the new attempt to download.

who`s blowing something out of proportion?

at least 6 month of working on a patch for a game which multiplayer mode didnt barely work is okay for you?

loosing so many player because you are incapable to fix your own game is okay with you?

working on an expansion while the main game doesnt work is okay with you?

i can just talk about my experience, and i have never seen something like this and its not okay with me

conte

I'm not sure about the problem you are having.  A group of friends and I all downloaded the 1.1 patch and played the game fine last night without any issues.

The problem he is talking about is the desync bug and it seems to be occuring more often in v1.1 than in v1.05.  In v1.05, it would minidump if there was a desync.  V1.1 let's you play for hours without knowing you were desynced 10 minutes into the game.

My experience was a little odd. I was catching hell from Impulse, as it wanted to update. After a reboot (something wanted to do something apparently) that went smooth, but then I kept getting an 'invalid key' error. Half an hour later, went to the registration page and somehow my key got cluster-<censored>ed. First half was right, second half I don't even know... changed it to what's in my case and it proceeded to download and install smoothly. Tried a quick solo game and everything seemed fine (after I reset my graphics preferences). I can tell some things look a little better, but I'm not entirely convinced the graphics are running smoother on my 3 and a half year old system. Still, extremely playable. Still fun.

The new UI stuff is great too. Haven't figgured out the auto-group ruleset that's supposed to be there, but takes time. So far, I say great job.

As it is required for this patch, I'm throwing my thoughts on Impulse in here... so feel free to skip the rest if you arn't interested in that.

As far as Impulse goes, I can't say I'm happy about it either. It's not a bad system, and certianly better than Ste@m (in my opinion... that thing crawls for me). Still, on principal I'm not pleased with having a whole extra program just to patch one thing. Expecially a program riddled with ads and demos and a bunch of social crap I'll never use. It's nice for some, but not so much for me. In a game with a launcher owned by basically the same company, I don't see why you couldn't input the relevant code of Impulse into the SINS launcher and have a nice, lightweight updater.

Also, while it's not a concern for most people, it's also one more thing I'd have to worry about playing nice with Wine if I decide I want to try and reboot back to Windows less.

If the stand-alone patchers are really all that bad... maybe a timed release might be a consideration. First on impulse, then the standalone redistributable later (kinda like MS does with the service packs and such). Hell, you can torrent those... who cares?

My 2 cents.

Is it just me or does Impulse really suck?

Largely just you - most people have no issues