Sabrina is my friend.

from JoeUser Forums

I've seen some comments made about my friend Sabrina recently that have really bothered me.  Certain people seem to think that she's responsible for all the ills of the world....that she's broken up marriages, screwed people over, hurt people's kids and kicked people's puppies.  None of those things is true.

My friend Sabrina is a wonderful, loving human being.  The pain she suffers on a daily basis would be enough to make some people curl up and die, but she presses on and tries to not let it get her down. 

She's very vocal about what she thinks and feels.  She calls it as she sees it, and I respect that immensely.  I'd rather have a friend who I can trust to tell it to me like it is rather than one who will smile sweetly to my face as they're reaching behind me to stab me in the back.  Yes, she can be abrasive, and something she can be downright vicious.....but she's always, always apologized when she's been in the wrong (and sometimes when she hasn't been wrong)

I've been on the receiving end of her venom.  She and I fell out and had a feud going on for a few months.  It got pretty ugly; there was talk of legal action and all kind of other nastiness.  It went on for a few months; each of us getting in a dig here and there.  We were both hurting - we gave a shit about each other, you see.  I truly cared for her, and being at odds with her hurt me.

On my birthday this year, I got a huge surprise.  She asked me to call a truce.  SHE asked ME.  People seem to forget that.  They don't want to see her as a person, they just want to see her as a bitch.  The fact that she called the truce, that she initiated the peace making process, doesn't jibe with the picture the have painted of her so they ignore it and cast it aside.  I'm not going to let that happen.  I refuse to stand by and watch people try and villify her; to blame her for things that are just not true.

My friend Sabrina bites when provoked, that much is true.  But, she's been there for me when other people haven't.  She knows things about me that nobody else knows, and she's never shared those things, even when things between us were at their worst.  She's a bit rough around the edges at times, but she's also incredibly intelligent, compassionate and loving. 

Sabrina is my friend, and I'm glad.

 

 

 

 

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Reply #1 from JoeUser Forums Top
Although I have not has the honor of any personal time with whip, I count her as one of my friends too.

She always knows how to get me out of my poor me mode.

She speaks with truth and truth can be a horrorific weapon and that's why some do not like her.

Give me truth anyday and do not sugarcoat it either.

{{{{{{pop that whip}}}}
Reply #2 from JoeUser Forums Top

She speaks with truth and truth can be a horrorific weapon and that's why some do not like her.

Like I said, I'd rather have the truth and know where I stand.  People who tell me what they think I want to hear to my face and then run around saying something different behind my back aren't really friends, IMO.

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Reply #3 from JoeUser Forums Top
#2 by dharmagrl
Monday, September 26, 2005


Like I said, I'd rather have the truth and know where I stand. People who tell me what they think I want to hear to my face and then run around saying something different behind my back aren't really friends, IMO.


exactly, I want to know where I stand and not have to guess, with whip there is NO GUESSWORK.

I appreciate that.
Reply #4 from JoeUser Forums Top
I see whip as a very vocal person who has no problems wearing her issues on her sleeve, and puts all the cards out there on the table. No sugar coated words here boys and girls.

Sounds good to me.

-- B
Reply #5 from JoeUser Forums Top
What a nice tribute to Whip! I agree with you and wish some folks would stop blasting her unfairly! She'sa great person in my book!
Reply #6 from JoeUser Forums Top
6 by foreverserenity
Monday, September 26, 2005


What a nice tribute to Whip! I agree with you and wish some folks would stop blasting her unfairly! She'sa great person in my book!


man you are so sweet, if I was 49 years younger, single and you were older and single, well fill in the blanks.
Reply #7 from JoeUser Forums Top
man you are so sweet, if I was 49 years younger, single and you were older and single, well fill in the blanks.


Aw shucks......you've got my heart fluttering!
Reply #8 from JoeUser Forums Top
For the record, FS, I think you're pretty sweet too, and have been very patient with me when explaining certain things. I've learned much from you, and look forward to even more eye-opening conversations with you.


Now I'm on the floor! Aw thanks Whip, you guys are killing me with the love fest...keep them coming..yuck, yuck! Seriously though, that's the nicest thing said to me.....thank you....(((HUGS)))
Reply #9 from JoeUser Forums Top
Youre welcome, FS, and you deserved every word. Where others are quick to judge and condemn and point the finger of racism at me just for noticing certain things, you took the time to explain how you actually felt about the issues I presented--from the looters to the use of the N word..and I appreciate that more than you know because I DO want to understand.


Yes, it was very enlightening for me too and I'm glad we both learned from it.


We aren't always going to agree on things


Yes we are! No we aren't....agreed! I love a good battle filled with respect and a patient ear for the other side's view....(said in my most eloquent english speaking accent!)


I've been on this earth for 40 years now and have experienced a lot; not more than others, but enough for me to know that it pays to listen to everyone who has a voice and wants to be heard and how much better it is to be patient and give a person the benefit of the doubt!

This has nothing to do with what we're both saying, but this past Saturday we went to the library, as usual, there's always this homeless guy there who smells like anything you don't wanna go near, ever! My daughter (the three year old) was always curious about him and explaining who he is she doesn't understand. YOu know what she did, we were looking at some Cd's together and she drifted off from me and I followed her; she headed straight for him and smiled shyly. He was staring at her so I took her hand and said it's not nice to stare. I told her to say Hi to the gentleman, he said hi back to her. Truthfully I didn't expect him to respond. He's never said anything to the other patrons and never caused any trouble since I've been going there. I know the other people were staring at me as if I had horns but I truly didn't see anything wrong with that. The point I'm trying to make here is that everyone deserves a chance, no matter what the impressions are and peole jumping to conclusions. And as you know WE hate people who make assumptions!

My apologies for taking over with this long winded response!
Reply #10 from JoeUser Forums Top
My apologies for taking over with this long winded response!

--foreverserenity

That wasn't long winded. Very nicely put, but not long winded.

Back to the topic ...

You know what I've noticed about Sabrina? Agree or disagree with her, if you treat her with respect, you'll get that same respect back. Treat her like a door mat ... and she makes an irate dachshund look tame.

(Mean suckers they are, darn near took a burglar's arm off he did. And him (the dachshund) only 15 pounds and 12" at the shoulder ... )
Reply #11 from JoeUser Forums Top
You know what I've noticed about Sabrina? Agree or disagree with her, if you treat her with respect, you'll get that same respect back. Treat her like a door mat ... and she makes an irate dachshund look tame


So true!




Well Said!
Reply #12 from JoeUser Forums Top
Those that can't handle it are welcome to not read my articles, those who can are welcome to read my articles and tell me what an ass I am.

But to sit on your own blog where I've been blacklisted and have a big old hatefest is just damn cowardly, if you ask me. What are people afraid of? That I might make them look foolish? Hmmm, if they weren't fools to begin with then they wouldnt have to worry about it, lol.


That didn't come up the last time....


Well said!
Reply #13 from JoeUser Forums Top
She's my friend, too. Let's whip it up for whip!

WHOOP! WHOOP! WHOOOOOP!
Reply #14 from JoeUser Forums Top
I'll chip in too...I love ya LW!
Reply #15 from JoeUser Forums Top
Haha, this is far too mushy. However, I'd be willing to contribute to the mush if I were offered, say, some vodka, raspberry pucker, and lemonade (bourbon, yuck!).

Hehe.
Reply #16 from JoeUser Forums Top
Can a somewhat intelligent, moderate democrat, who likes LW come too?

IG
Reply #18 from JoeUser Forums Top
Thank you, Karen, I really appreciate it.

Welcome. I did it for a reason. I'm sick of seeing you dragged through the mud around here. If you did something to deserve it, then fair enough but this time....you didn't.

Where I draw the line though, is at being openly referred to as a BITCH over and over again, as if this particular individual is DARING admin to do something about it.

I also draw the line at outright lies being spread about me in regards to Tex's marital problems last year. I never had any interaction with Adrian, ever. I never tried to "break up Tex's marriage" as has been claimed.


Those are both reasons I wrote this article. What was said was unfair and uninformed. You NEVER had any such intentions, in fact I recall you trying really hard to NOT take sides in the whole situation. I, on the other hand, amde a snide comment to Adrian about 'keeoping it in his pants', and he let fly at me, calling me 'saddle bags'. It was a good, clean flame and we both got over it. Seems that other people can't do that.
Reply #19 from JoeUser Forums Top
I see whip as a very vocal person who has no problems wearing her issues on her sleeve, and puts all the cards out there on the table. No sugar coated words here boys and girls.


And that's exactly what I like.


I agree with you and wish some folks would stop blasting her unfairly!


Thanks! If she's done something to warrant it, then fine, flame on....but don't start throwing shit at her just because of who she is. That's not cool.

Where others are quick to judge and condemn and point the finger of racism at me just for noticing certain things, you took the time to explain how you actually felt about the issues I presented--from the looters to the use of the N word..and I appreciate that more than you know because I DO want to understand.


See, that's what I like about FS too....and that, by the way, is the way discussions should be done. instead of name calling and baiting, FS and LW actually learned something about each other.

You know what I've noticed about Sabrina? Agree or disagree with her, if you treat her with respect, you'll get that same respect back. Treat her like a door mat ... and she makes an irate dachshund look tame


I've got a dachsund, and I know how they can be when they're irate. You're totally right, btw. All it takes is respect....
Reply #20 from JoeUser Forums Top
sing Kum-bah-ya now?

To hell with that, whose up for some bourbon and paintball


sniffff, buy some organic juice for me to drink whip.
Reply #21 from JoeUser Forums Top
29 by little_whip
Monday, September 26, 2005


Ok MM...can I still shoot ya in the heiney with my big blue paintballs?


sure kid anything that will float yer boat.

umm may I shoot back? paintballs of course. pink cause yer a goil. ewwwwwwww
Reply #22 from JoeUser Forums Top
Sabrina is my friend too! She has opened my eyes, my heart and my mind and helped me to achieve one of my dreams, and one of the most important thing is she has taught me that life isnt all that bad and not to worry about everything thats happening out there and to do something special for myself everyday.

People who critisize her for me are pretty shallow people because they have not taken any time to try and understand or get to know her. You know when I first came to JU me and Sabrina and you too Karen didnt see eye to eye, and with Sabrina we even had outright battles but you know I thought to myself I need to get to know this woman because she is passionate about whatever she does and that is what gets my attention, people with passion.

I can even go to say that I love Sabrina for Sabrina. It sucks that I am in Oz when she is in the USA cause I would love to go out with her and have a ball! One day though I have promised that I am going to do that, if not in this life then it will happen.

btw.. I love you to Karen.. Im sorry we havent been able to keep in contact like before, there is so much happening here I would like to share with you.
Reply #23 from JoeUser Forums Top
A lovely tribute. It has taken me a while to really 'get' L_W's style. She certainly has some fierce, often harsh opinions, but, as she says herself, anyone unable to separate the opinions from the person is operating at a fairly shallow level.

I've only of course ever met her on-line persona but, as she holds so little back, she probably more closely resembles her virtual presence than most of us here. I've noticed that the ferocity is mixed in with a clear eyed, unfussy and unsentimental kindness that only the really tough have. If you need a loyal friend, this is the best kind of person to have.

I'm surprised that more people haven't noticed that, for all the forthrightness of her opinions, she is more than happy to reconsider a matter and change her mind, if she can be persuaded that that is the right thing to do. However, a mere barrage of insult is unlikely to shift that stubbornness, as some have already discovered.

Some of her opinions I've strongly disagreed with, and some I've thought go too far. But so what? Militant wishy-washiness works fine for me, but universally adopted would make for a monochrome world. Anyone who argues fiercely, fights their corner, but can yield to a new insight or empathise with someone else's hard-won life lessons (as with foreverserenity) is not doing too badly at all.
Reply #24 from JoeUser Forums Top
Gimme a "W"!!!

Gimme an "H"!!!

Gimme an "I"!!!

Gimme a "P"!!!

What's that spell?????



BUTT KISSERS!!!
Reply #25 from JoeUser Forums Top
I feel so...so loved!

Can we all hold hands and sing Kum-bah-ya now?


"Only" if we make smores to go along with it.