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F U, U A**Hole

F U, U A**Hole

Alright, lets play a game!!! It's called "Guess who said what!!!"

Here's how it goes:

I will give you two statements that I saw recently made on this site, and you tell me which one was written by a right leaning member of JU, and which one was written by a left leaning member of JU. Ready?!?! OK!!!

Statement number 1: "Fuck you, you asshole."
Statement number 2: "You really are a dumb fucker."

Can't tell who said what?!?! Confused as to who's on the right and who's on the left?!?! Here's one more hint:

Statement number 1 was largely overlooked by everyone except the individual who it was directed at, and the individual who posted the original article.

Statement number 2 was pounced upon by various people, one of them with authority, and was promised a quick and definitive exile.

So then, two personal attacks, both using rather infantile terms, neither adding anything in particular to the topic at hand. The only difference, perhaps, is that one of them (statement 1) was made by a guest responding to a thread, therefore establishing the comments as not only rude but completely unjustified. The other statement (statement 2) was made by the person who wrote the article, therefore establishing the comment as rude but somewhat justified, if I am to take the various statements that you can write whatever garbage you want as long as it's on your own blog seriously. That, and the fact that statement 2 was made in response to statement 1, and so was really more of a defense than an attack. After all, we do remember that you can expect to get what you give, do we not?

The other difference, of course, is that statement 1 was largely swept under the rug and ignored, and statement 2 was put under a microscope and caught in the administrative crosshairs. The individual who wrote statement 1 was ignored, while the individual who wrote statement 2 was promised a swift exile.

Now then: Who's left and who's right?
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Reply #26 Top

"Zinkadoodle" was banned because he was a FAKE. It was a "last straw" comment.  If you think it is OK to let people say whatever they want as a fake persona after they have been confined to their own blog after *many* warnings, then you shouldn't be blogging on this site.

This has nothing to do with political leanings- it has to do with breaking the TOU over and over and over........

Reply #27 Top
Thank you Karma.

I have posted literally hundreds of comments and several blogs on abortion and responded with many, many comments on stem cell research. If Philomedy wants to judge me based upon a single line on a single comment, fine, I couldn't care less. I would hope that anyone who didn't have an axe to grind would have a different perspective.

Next time Myrrander uses the word 'jesustards' in reference to my beliefs, I may or may not respond that way again. I will certainly, though, be anxious in the future to see if Philomedy is always as magnanimous as he is here, holding to his idea that in order to be insulted you have to be called upon by name.
Reply #28 Top
dunno about that bias thing though, they still let me talk on this ol' website and if they were censoring the extremists on the left hand side of your dial, I think I would be one of the first to go...


"Zinkadoodle" was banned because he was a FAKE. It was a "last straw" comment. If you think it is OK to let people say whatever they want as a fake persona after they have been confined to their own blog after *many* warnings, then you shouldn't be blogging on this site.This has nothing to do with political leanings- it has to do with breaking the TOU over and over and over........


I haven't argued, since everyone started, about why Zinkadoodle was exiled. What I have been saying, since I wrote this, is that two people committed similar offenses and should have both been chastised for it. I was then told, by LW, that perhaps the administrators had not seen the comment in question from Bakerstreet. Fine. Since Karma has been here, I'm gonna go ahead and assume that she has now seen the comment in question. Still, nothing. Fine. I'm going to take that as an indication, as has already been pointed out here, that this is because the comment in question was uncharacteristic of Bakerstreet, and so he has been given the benefit of the doubt. I am also going to ahead and assume that this means that, since I have never used language of this sort to berate anyone, I get a free pass to tell whomever I want, whenever I want, on whosever blog that I want, to fuck off, without having anyone say a goddamn thing to me.
Reply #29 Top
will certainly, though, be anxious in the future to see if Philomedy is always as magnanimous as he is here, holding to his idea that in order to be insulted you have to be called upon by name.


Oh joy! We're keeping tabs on me! So glad to be that much of a fixture in your mind.

Reply #30 Top
And since it appears clear that most people disagree with me on the issue of bias, let me announce publicly that I admit I was wrong about it...I'll just say that there is a clear majority on this site that happen to think one way politically, and a clear minority that happen to think another way. Every once in a while, I suppose that may lead to reactions that seem biased, to me at least. I saw two people tell two other people to fuck off, in effect. I saw one disciplined, if for other reasons as well, and I saw another get not as much as a look. I happened to think that was unfair. I still do. But whatever, we're all human here. I suppose our feelings about other people take over all of us at times, and that in all of ours concern with what dabe did/had done/was continuing to do, we let Baker slide and gave him the benefit of the doubt. Fine.
Reply #31 Top
I never said there wasn't a bias, just that it isn't a terrible problem. JU is definetely skewed to the right. And if Baker wants to consider himself a "jesustard," that's also fine by me.

Cheers.
Reply #32 Top
I suppose that when Karma finally has enough and banishes her entirely, that will be "political bias" too, right?


When you start reading before you post, come back and talk to me.
Reply #33 Top
Right off the top of my head, Philo, I can name all sorts of lefties that blog here regularly and have never once, (to my knowledge) been subjected to any form of Admin moderation, not even a warning.


Again, I don't know how much more clearly I have to admit that I was wrong, but here goes: COMMENT #37!!! Let's all read it before we keep posting, shall we?

That being said, I stand by my statement that two people told two other people to fuck off, and that one was disciplined (if for other reasons as well), and the other was not. Two people, same offense, one gets yelled at, one does not. Bias. Perhaps it was not based on politics, perhaps it was based on history, but its still bias.
Reply #34 Top
However, I will say, I *am* an asshole, and as such, should be told to "fuck off" from time to time.

Reply #35 Top

kingbee
Champas
cacto
stevendedalus
Tex
Bahu
Col Gene
mano
shadesofgrey
phoenixboi
Mason

I would not call Mason Liberal. And Col Klink says he is not.

Reply #36 Top
After being amazed by the legs on this thread, I feel compelled to make only one comment.

Philomedy set this all up with a false premise - that Zink was banned because of language used once while Baker's was ignored, when that was not the reason by a longshot, Karma's reference to the language notwithstanding - apparently for the sole purpose of further baiting Baker on behalf of his buddy, Myrr.

Cheers,
Daiwa
Reply #37 Top
I can name all sorts of lefties that blog here regularly and have never once, (to my knowledge) been subjected to any form of Admin moderation, not even a warning.


shadesofgrey


and are usually treated with respect even by those who disagree with them


I would argue (and maybe I am wrong) that it is just the opposite--we treat those who disagree with us with respect. I have had plenty of people on this site be down right nasty to me--I've had to employ the blacklist feature several times for people who couldn't mind their manners on my blog. I don't retaliate in kind--though there are times that I wish I did.
Reply #38 Top
And yes, Phil, I did see you admit that there was more to what you saw than was originally apparent to you, but you still allege bias at least on the point that dabe was disciplined for the bad language and Baker was not.However, you dont know what Karma may have said to him about it elsewhere, right?


No, I don't, but my original point stands. One person is disciplined publicly, and one privately. Same offense. Bias. Person A commits an offense, Person A gets publicly called out. Person B commits the same offense, Person B gets quietly taken aside and spoken to.
Reply #39 Top
Wrong answer, Phil, so here's comments 2 & 3: They were not the same offenses. You want to continue this masturbation, you're on your own.

Cheers,
Daiwa
Reply #40 Top
Philomedy set this all up with a false premise - that Zink was banned because of language used once while Baker's was ignored, when that was not the reason by a longshot, Karma's reference to the language notwithstanding - apparently for the sole purpose of further baiting Baker on behalf of his buddy, Myrr.


Philomedy already admitted he was wrong, and Philomedy's beating his head in trying to figure out what he has to do to get that across to the people here, but he's gonna stop until someone tells him what they want him to do because he's out of ideas.

And let me say further, RUN, MYRRANDER!!! THEY'VE FIGURED US OUT!!! I EXIST SOLELY TO CARRY OUT YOUR DESIRED BADGERING OF BAKERSTREET, WHOM IS, I HAVE THROUGH THIS THREAD DISCOVERED, MORE PERSECUTED BY YOU THAN THE JEWS EVER WERE!!! RUN OR OUR GOAL OF BAITING BAKERSTREET TO DEATH IS IN DANGER!!! RUN!!! QUICKLY!!! BEFORE THEY START ACCUSING YOU AND I OF BEING THE SAME BLOGGER POSTING UNDER DIFFERENT NAMES!!!
Reply #41 Top
Wrong answer, Phil, so here's comments 2 & 3: They were not the same offenses. You want to continue this masturbation, you're on your own.


Statement number 1: "Fuck you, you asshole."
Statement number 2: "You really are a dumb fucker."

Please point out the intricate differences between these two offenses, that I am obviously too dense to figure out.

Reply #42 Top
Phil, if you can't see the difference then you're either being deliberately obtuse or you are under the opinion that history and past behavior means NOTHING. Even in a court of law, past record is considered prior to sentencing. Is that bias too?


Well said, but even after past histories are taken into account, both criminals are reprimanded by the court, are they not?

So how long are you going to whine and pout about this again?? Baker didn't get a public warning...oh WAHHHH.


I wasn't gonna say anything, but with everyone bringing stuff up about how I'm the one keeping this going...Didn't you say you were finished with this like 18 comments ago?
Reply #43 Top
I haven't argued, since everyone started, about why Zinkadoodle was exiled. What I have been saying, since I wrote this, is that two people committed similar offenses and should have both been chastised for it.


Do you "know" for a fact that both weren't? Chastisement is not always done publicly you know. Some times it's done by e-mail. Which you would not be privy to.
Reply #44 Top
That was last night, Phil, i was done with it for the time being. Guess you need everything explained in minute detail, hmmm?


I guess I was supposed to infer that this had "but only for tonight" on the end of it:

This will be my last word on the manner as well, its already gotten far too much attention.


Reply #45 Top
Phil, after reading through the whole thread I think that dabe's banning was fair enough and giving BS a slap over the wrist is also fair enough. But, the question is, did he get one?

Anyway, you have been hilarious, and I do think there is a bias on JU, be it evidenced by the featured page or by how people get treated for indiscretions (be that treatment from admin or other bloggers). But it's no biggie.
Reply #46 Top
Anyway, you have been hilarious,


I aim to please.

and I do think there is a bias on JU, be it evidenced by the featured page or by how people get treated for indiscretions (be that treatment from admin or other bloggers


Yeah, I should have pointed out earlier that bias is not only to be had from administrators.