Is woman to woman affair cheating?

I can't believe he said that!

OK, so I've had two very interesting awakening conversation over the weekend. One with my hubby and one with the kids while driving in the car on a family trip on Saturday. For now we'll discuss this cheating woman to woman thing. Because I can't believe my hubby said this.

Let me tell you how this conversation started. We were watching telly on Friday night and we were channel surfing and bumped into "Diary of an Affair" on the Style network. I stopped because I wanted to hear what this woman did and why she did it. (I saw a woman confessing so naturally I wanna know) Anyway, apparently she was having trouble with her husband of I don't know how many years. They weren't communicating, and lots of other stuff, and this led her into the arms of her best friend. I wasn't sure if her best friend was gay or not, but they happened to end up having sex. It was a great experience but she was mortified that it happened. She said it only happened once and eventually she and her friend broke off their friendship. She did everything to not let her hubby find out. They patch things back together but he noticed her friend didn’t' come around anymore and kept asking her about it. When he saw them together and saw that something was going on he got the confession out of her. He was pissed! Pissed! My hubby's reaction to that was "ah what's the big deal?" "It's a woman so it doesn’t' count".

I'm like, say what?! "What do you mean it wasn't cheating so it doesn't count?" I asked him. He said, "Well she had a sexual experience with another woman that's not cheating, there's no penis involved. Plus it wasn't a man." I said "Mikey (short for Michael), are you kidding me?!" "Why wouldn't you consider that cheating? She had sex outside of her marriage, she cheated! Although it's a woman, it's still cheating!"

"Well, it is but it's not", he said. "Her husband has nothing to worry about and it was only once and it's a woman not a man." I laughed at that. I said I couldn't believe what I was hearing. Then I asked him, "So, suppose it was a man cheating on his wife with another man, is that cheating?" Well he wouldn't even entertain that idea, but he said yes, penis involved, that's cheating! I said "Mikey, you do know that there are dildos and vibrators and such the like that women can use don't you?!" Suppose she found that better sex than with her husband? His response, "Well she didn’t and it only happened once so, nothing to it!"

My hubby is a very level-headed guy and pretty open-minded but this took the cake. I mentioned our conversation to a girlfriend and she agreed with me. Of course it was cheating!

So JU, what’s your opinion on this? Is woman to woman sex, one of them being married, cheating? Is having sexual contact once, not cheating?!

Of course I’m sure he knows that having sex outside of the marriage once is cheating. He’s just thinking this way because it was two women. Not the typical cheating woman with man. Plus, he has this fantasy about two women making out, like all men do! My girlfriend said her boyfriend had the same fantasy too. What is this thing with men? Why do they get so turned on by two women making out or having sex?!
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Yep, men just love this woman to woman stuff! A real turn on!
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It's as much cheating as the sky is blue....

~Zoo
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in my opinion, an affair with anyone while married is cheating.


It's as much cheating as the sky is blue....


I agree with both of you. It is cheating.
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It's as much cheating as the sky is blue....


Technically, the sky isn't blue, but we'll leave that to semantics.

Any affair, no matter the person who you have the affair with, is cheating. Period. End of story.
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Well I've always figured it was cheating but when I used my cousin as an example in another blog there were a heck of a lot of JU folks who defended his cheating because it was with other guys. It will be interesting to see how the same people will respond to your article.


I think I remember your article. You're right it would be interesting. It's funny (strange) people think that way isn't it?
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Technically, the sky isn't blue, but we'll leave that to semantics.


Beebes....GRRR!

~Zoo
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Any affair, no matter the person who you have the affair with, is cheating. Period. End of story.


Yep!


Technically, the sky isn't blue, but we'll leave that to semantics.Beebes....GRRR! ~Zoo


Well, that depends how you look at it! LOL!
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What is this thing with men? Why do they get so turned on by two women making out or having sex?!


We don't know and can't explain we just do. That is as honest an answer that can be given to that question.

Sure it is cheating. Is cheating a black and white issue? No. People make mistakes and some people cheat. I think since it was a single incident and she has broken contact with this person that is is less severe say than him catching them in bed. It isn't any less wrong since it was with a woman, but I don't know too many guys who wouldn't ask these questions directly after finding out ... Will you do it again? Can I watch?
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We don't know and can't explain we just do. That is as honest an answer that can be given to that question.


I'll agree...it's about the best answer we can give without lying.

~Zoo
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It is cheating.

That being said, a question.  Would you (this is a generic you for anyone to answer) be more inclined to forgive your spouse if they cheated with the same sex, or with the opposite sex?

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Would you (this is a generic you for anyone to answer) be more inclined to forgive your spouse if they cheated with the same sex, or with the opposite sex?


I would be inclined not to forgive them at all...if someone screws me over...I am not too forgiving. That being said, maybe same sex would be easier....but I'd still be pissed anyway.

~Zoo
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anytime you "cheat" on your mate it counts, same sex, animals, or just in thought. and it is a big deal, at least to me.
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It is cheatin but it is up to the Hubby to uphold it.

If I had to find out about it I would not be too happy but if my wife came to me and said oops i slept with my friend...
or I'd really like to try it with my friend... I think I'd explode, and not in anger

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We don't know and can't explain we just do. That is as honest an answer that can be given to that question.



I'll agree...it's about the best answer we can give without lying.



Ok, that's being honest. Thanks for the honesty!



but I don't know too many guys who wouldn't ask these questions directly after finding out ... Will you do it again? Can I watch?


No you.....hehe I get it...you guys are just kinky!



That being said, a question. Would you (this is a generic you for anyone to answer) be more inclined to forgive your spouse if they cheated with the same sex, or with the opposite sex?


Truthfully, it would be hard for me but in the end I think I would. It might not be a forgiveness right away and I definately wouldn't forget immediately either. But I would be very hurt, yes. And I would make him not forget either! I wouldn't do payback, but I definately would make him pay in more ways than one! It would most definately be the hurt of betrayal that would do me in and that's why forgiving and forgetting would be a long journey.




maybe same sex would be easier....but I'd still be pissed anyway.


See you're taking the same road too Zoo. Easier because it's a woman....



anytime you "cheat" on your mate it counts, same sex, animals, or just in thought. and it is a big deal, at least to me.


Egads! Animals! OK, I've heard of this but I don't need to know the details ! I know you're only referring Elie, just couldn't leave that one alone!


It is cheatin but it is up to the Hubby to uphold it.


OK, you agree with the cheating part but I don't understand what you're saying about the hubby to uphold it?



or I'd really like to try it with my friend... I think I'd explode, and not in anger


Well, you agree with a few of the other males here then!LOL! This is most definately up to both spouses. But be careful what you wish for!


Its cheating unless hubby gets to watch.


As I said before it's definately up to the couple and if this floats the boat....don't come a knocking!
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See you're taking the same road too Zoo. Easier because it's a woman....


Better a woman than a man...it just doesn't have quite the same pissed off level. Though if I got to participate...then there's no hard feelings.

~Zoo
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anytime you "cheat" on your mate it counts, same sex, animals, or just in thought. and it is a big deal, at least to me.


Thinking about it is one thing. "Acting" on that thought is something "entirely" different.
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Thinking about it is one thing. "Acting" on that thought is something "entirely" different.


You're right drmiler. Thinking about it might be considered cheating by some and I honestly don't think it is, although I said Yep in reply to the comment. In looking at it this way, it isn't until the person acts on the thought. After all, the thinking might just be the motivation that gets a couple excited about being in the bedroom!
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Thinking about it is one thing. "Acting" on that thought is something "entirely" different.

Except if you are Jimmah Carter.

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Except if you are Jimmah Carter.


Did you mean Jimmy Carter? If so what's the reference? (Didn't pick that up!)
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Did you mean Jimmy Carter? If so what's the reference? (Didn't pick that up!)

yes.  To his 1976 "Lust in my Heart" Playboy interview.  He claimed to have sinned because he had lusted after other women in his heart, altho he never actually physically cheated on Rosalyn.

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I think a woman to woman affair IS cheating, personally, but look at it this way...if you're so inclined and need to release sexual tension, you know where to go! (LOL)
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yes. To his 1976 "Lust in my Heart" Playboy interview. He claimed to have sinned because he had lusted after other women in his heart, altho he never actually physically cheated on Rosalyn.


To be fair, he was actually leaning on Christ's own words for his standards...
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yes. To his 1976 "Lust in my Heart" Playboy interview. He claimed to have sinned because he had lusted after other women in his heart, altho he never actually physically cheated on Rosalyn.


Ahhh...no wonder I didn't get it....I didn't read that "article" in Playboy,!


I think a woman to woman affair IS cheating, personally, but look at it this way...if you're so inclined and need to release sexual tension, you know where to go! ()


And how!!


To be fair, he was actually leaning on Christ's own words for his standards...


He was....I dunno...? I'm pondering this one!