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Bush or Kerry?
Where is the "None Of The Above" option? That's what I would choose.



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Voting for anything else is like voting for Bush.

In the news today, they were talking about a survey done Internationally, and it's amazing how this guy (Bush) is unpopular everywhere. 72% of the British support Kerry, 71% of the French, 78% of the Spannish. These were the highest, other country results were in the 60%-70% range. Only ONE country supported Bush (around 60%): Israel.

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From an English point of view I don't like Bush, but haven't a clue who Kerry is...
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americans seem to be not up to date....

as you see, in the "american vote" both are nearly equal, in the "worldwide vote" bush seems to be very hm.. lets call it disliked

IT THAT RANDOM?!?!?!?!?! or are you americans (don't want to say it to hard) uninformed?
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I like Bush. He says what he means, and means what he says. Kerry covers all sides of an issue, saying whatever you want to hear.  Kerry changes his positions constantly, and claims to be consistent. The man scares me no end. If Kerry is elected, I fear for the future of the entire world.

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As the owner of this website, I think of myself as a pretty informed guy. I designed The Political Machine. I've been in Time Magazine, Newsweek, US News and World Report over the years.

I have run political discussion communities in the past and present.

And I am going to vote for Bush.  Now, my vote isn't representative of my employer (Stardock) or even of WinCustomize.com. Each person has their own point of view that may differ from mine dramatically.

But it does get a bit tiresome for someone to say that people who support Bush are somehow not informed. I would put my knowledge on history, politics, economics, etc. against anyone here any day.  Suffice to say I'm not uninformed.

I support Bush because I do happen to support US action in Iraq. I also support Bush's domestic policies.  Good people can disagree on these things. But don't paint your opponents as being ignorant.

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Well, personnally, I consider Bush as an ignorant idiot. Not that I think people who would vote for him are so as well. Probably most of them are republicans and would never be caught dead voting democrat.

Interesting thing is that my wife has always been a republican. She still considers herself a Republican, except that she can't stand the idiot that Bush is. If she had to vote, she would vote Democrat for this once in her life. Except that voting from another country, while it's possible, it's just a lot of hassle, and she just doesn't see it as worth it (as she would still be reluctant to vote Democrat - she would only do it because she hates Bush so much).

I know that every country leader has an army of advisers and speech writters to do the thinking for them, but in the case of Bush, it just seems to be so obvous: the man can't speak two intelligent words unless somebody else writes it for him.

One event comes to my mind: shortly after getting elected, a little before 9/11, while asked by Canadian journalists what he thought about the Prince-Edward-Island potatoes issue (at that time there was a trade conflict between the US and Canada regarding potatoes from the province of Prince-Edward-Island). He answered that a trip to Europe was planned soon and that the matter would be discussed then...  Europe? Prince-Edward-Island? Come on now, we're your closest neighbour and you are the leader of your country. Just how credible can you be to us when you think one of our province is in Europe?  Man, I wonder if Idaho potatoes are from Australia...

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I'm not a Republican, I don't see Bush as an idiot, quite the contrary. So he didn't know all you think he should about a potatoe problem in Canada.... so what? I'm not concerned with issues of that nature. I like a strong president, who makes tough decisions, and sticks to his principals. Kerry doesn't seem to have any principals. He was for the war, then against it, then for it, and now I'm not sure where he stands today, or this afternoon. He calls Bush a liar for saying nothing Kerry himself did not say (before he said something else). Bush may not be a 'slick talker', but I happen to respect him a great deal. Anyone who thinks he's an idiot, is fooling themselves IMHO.
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It's not about a potatoe problem, it's about the World leader (cause that's what a US President is today) not knowing anything about his closest neighbour. But that's just one example.  I'm sure he just as incompetent about his own country. I wonder if he could name the state capital of Rhode Island.

Thing is, if he doesn't have a clue unless somebody else is whispering what he should say in his ear.

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The thing I find interesting is the seemingly apparent shallowness of the arguments for a particular candidate. This one doesn't speak well, that one uses Botox, etc.
And the blatant avoidance of the issues with the intellectually bankrupt attempt to diminish or negate a candidates message by calling him names (moron, stupid, wooden, etc). As if discrediting the person cancels out his values or philosophy.

For me, it boils down to the government's role as I see it. More government intervention/control vs. individual control. Treating all Americans equally vs. giving certain groups 'special' priviledges or 'punishing' certain groups for their social or financial status.
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Just because the french want Kerry elected means absolutely nothing to me. Most people judged the recent debates on how well each canidate spoke, not what they actually said. Bush stands by what he believe whether you, me or france likes it. Kerry tells people what they want to hear and nothing else.

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I'm not a Republican and I support Bush.  I didn't vote for Dole and I voted for Michigan's current governor,  a Democrat.

This may shock you Paxx but it is possible for clear thinking people to look at both men and conclude that Bush is the better man for the job.

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Polls are a joke. They serve no logical purpose other than to sway undecided voters to be on the winning side.


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IT THAT RANDOM?!?!?!?!?! or are you americans (don't want to say it to hard) uninformed?

No. Name an american leader that has EVER been popular outside the US.

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BTW, knowing a lot about Canada isn't somethign I consider to be very important in a US President any more than I would expect the Canadian prime minister to know a lot about Greenland.

Canada has a smaller population than at least 1 US state. Being familiar with a province in Canada is akin to knowing a lot about a county in California. That's not being disrespectful of Canada it's just a practical reality.

Canadians seem to have a real inferiority complex. I had an interview with the Toronto Globe and Mail recently and they seemed incredulous that I grouped provinces and territories together.  I had said the difficulty in doing a Canadian version of The Political Machine is that Canada has only aroudn a dozen provinces (13 I believe) and he sternly corrected me that there were something like 10 provinces and 3 territories.

Knowing details about Canada is not a priority for most Americans. It doesn't have any practical value. Just like knowing the capital of US states is not much practical value for people.

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Just like knowing the capital of US states is not much practical value for people.


Unless you are an elementary student taking a geography test Then it becomes very important!

Seriously though, you are correct as far as the importance people place on the president being able to know all the minute details. Think the CEO of GM knows where every little nut and bolt goes on a brand new Chevrolet?
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Well, suit yourself, it's your vote. But as for myself, I would never vote for a Canadian Prime Minister that thought that London was in Australia or Paris in Africa...
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Personally I like my leaders to be good with economics and social issues. I don't think geography would even make the list.
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Just because the french want Kerry elected means absolutely nothing to me.

Funny how I named four countries, but you only mention France.  There is something fascinating about the hatred some Americans have towards France. Not that I care, I'm not from France.

I don't know if it's a cultural difference or not, but I would indeed care a whole lot about how my leader would represent me outside of my countries.  For a long time I was very much ashamed of our former Prime Minister. He was caught abroad saying some of the most stupid things a country leader should not be allowed to say. My country leader's role is not limited to internal affairs only. Relationship with other countries is just as important, if not even more. And that's true for the leader of any country today, not just the US.

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You're comparing knowing about Prince Edward Island with knowing where London or Paris is?

That's exactly the kind of thing I'm talking about with regards to Canadians. They really think that their obscure geographic elements are important on a worldwide scale. 

I agree, I wouldn't vote for a President who thought Paris was in Africa.  But Prince Edward Island is not Paris. It's Canada's smallest province with a population of around 100,000 people. Kalamazoo Michigan's population is on par with that.

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Funny how I named four countries, but you only mention France. There is something fascinating about the hatred some Americans have towards France. Not that I care, I'm not from France.


Its because they/we are both arrogant. Kinda like 2 magnets.
Reply #20 Top

Well Paxx, your current prime minister said in a speech on the anniversary of 9/11 that implied that the United States essentially had it coming with regards to 9/11.

Just a reminder: http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/750132/posts

I can't think of anything Bush said that was as insenstive or undiplomatic as that.  Of course, members of Canada's government has said how much they hate Americans and such too.

 

Reply #21 Top
NightTrain, I think some are missing the point.
Say you are having a business lunch with a potential client or business partner. You meet him at the restaurant and greet him with a smile. Then you ask "So, how's youre lovely wife Lynda doing?"... Oops, his wife's name is Janet. 
Reply #22 Top
Funny how I named four countries, but you only mention France. There is something fascinating about the hatred some Americans have towards France. Not that I care, I'm not from France.


I wasn't trying to single out France. I don't hate France, but I do not consider them an ally.


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Someone is missing the point alright.....  

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I understand your point completley paxx. My point is only that noone is perfect. Anyone put under a microscope is going to come away looking bad (except catherine- zeta jones).
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Well, the current Canadian governement doesn't even have the majority. They won't last a whole mandate that's pretty sure.

Sure PEI is not as important as Paris. But it's right next door not accros the ocean.  How is it that you are so knowledgable and know not only what PEI is but how much population it has, and yet somebody who is supposed to represent you knows a lot less than you do?  Shouldn't your leader be at least as competent as you, if not preferably more?
Heck, why do I know that Providence is the capital of Rhode Island? It's small and and it's one state out of 50. Yet, I - an average Joe - know about it. And yet your country's biggest ambassador doesn't know what PEI is - one province out of only 10.