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Start11 2.60 Release Feedback

Start11 2.60 Release Feedback

With the Start11 2.60 release today, we are creating this thread so that users can report any observed issues.  

Obtaining the product

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Reporting an issue

Please include the following for anything found:

  • Exact Windows version \ build (winver.exe)

  • Detailed steps to recreate the issue seen

  • Screenshots and videos are very helpful.  Videos can be uploaded to a cloud drive service (GoogleDrive, DropBox, OneDrive, YouTube), with a shared link included in your post.  Images can be copied and pasted directly into a post.

  • If there are specific apps that the app does not work (well) with, please note what apps and their exact versions.  If any app is not common, a link to a trial version would be appreciated.

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Reply #26 Top

Quoting basj, reply 25

Look like you have not updated your Windows 11 for sometimes. You current Windows version was release back in 2024. Any reason, you are not updating your Windows 11 to latest released version?


This has nothing to do with anything. For one thing, have you not seen all the news about how broken and terrible the recent feature releases are? :p

Please refer to Microsoft's support chart showing 24H2 is supported until October 12, 2027: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/products/windows-11-enterprise-and-education#releases

Besides, Start11 advertises itself as also being for Windows 10, which is long out of support no matter the feature version.

Reply #27 Top

Quoting gigadelic, reply 26

This has nothing to do with anything. For one thing, have you not seen all the news about how broken and terrible the recent feature releases are?

Please refer to Microsoft's support chart showing 24H2 is supported until October 12, 2027: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/products/windows-11-enterprise-and-education#releases

Besides, Start11 advertises itself as also being for Windows 10, which is long out of support no matter the feature version

Understandable, perhaps, you would prefer to test it on Windows Sandbox as mentioned here: https://support.stardock.com/space/SHC/1416855562/Testing+Start+in+Sandbox 

Or, you can do the Cleanboot steps: Refer here: https://support.stardock.com/space/SHC/1332445272/Fences+Clean+Boot. Do note Clean boot need to be done with care.

Try these steps and report back.

Thank you,

Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant

Reply #28 Top

Thanks for your help, Basj. Reinstalling didn't resolve anything. This issue has intermittently occurred, regardless of the hardware I have used.

1. Windows 11 Pro Version 25H2 OS build 26200.7705
2. Enhance Taskbar turned off, only default Start 11 settings used.
3. No third-party software installed
4. I have not determined a pattern to replicate. When it happens on boot (every other time), a simple reboot resolves the issue, or I re-add the Start button from Start 11, and it jumps back into the correct position.
5. My current build is an MSI Raider 18 HX AI A2XWJG (3840x2400) monitor. However, this is disabled, and I use a single external Samsung Odyssey Neo G7 monitor (3840 x 2160). Windows scaling is on the default 150%. I have zero resolution issues. Everything else in the taskbar is positioned correctly.

Thanks, Basj. If you require anything else, let me know.

 

 

 

Reply #29 Top

Quoting Sayjimwoo, reply 28

Thanks for your help, Basj. Reinstalling didn't resolve anything. This issue has intermittently occurred, regardless of the hardware I have used.

1. Windows 11 Pro Version 25H2 OS build 26200.7705
2. Enhance Taskbar turned off, only default Start 11 settings used.
3. No third-party software installed
4. I have not determined a pattern to replicate. When it happens on boot (every other time), a simple reboot resolves the issue, or I re-add the Start button from Start 11, and it jumps back into the correct position.
5. My current build is an MSI Raider 18 HX AI A2XWJG (3840x2400) monitor. However, this is disabled, and I use a single external Samsung Odyssey Neo G7 monitor (3840 x 2160). Windows scaling is on the default 150%. I have zero resolution issues. Everything else in the taskbar is positioned correctly.

Thanks, Basj. If you require anything else, let me know.

Have you tried those steps I mentioned above (reply#27)?

Thank you,

Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant

Reply #30 Top

Hi Basj. Yes, nothing made a difference. I went two days without seeing the start button bug, but when I logged on this morning, it returned. I am convinced it is a universal bug. It has done it for years. However, it has become far more frequent lately.

Reply #31 Top

Quoting Sayjimwoo, reply 30

Hi Basj. Yes, nothing made a difference. I went two days without seeing the start button bug, but when I logged on this morning, it returned. I am convinced it is a universal bug. It has done it for years. However, it has become far more frequent lately.

That is strange, so you mean the issue appear after two days with no issue? And after it appeared, it still appear after the next time you rebooted?

Thank you,

Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant

Reply #32 Top

Habe die Version 2.6 über mein Konto runtergeladen und sie ist wieder auf Deutsch. 

Danke für die Hilfe.

Reply #33 Top

Yeah, it appeared again two days later on a cold boot. For some reason, it is not happening consistently.

I have since reverted to the default blue Start11 button for testing. So far, after dozens of boots throughout the day, it has been fine. Is the default start button applied differently compared to the other buttons?

Reply #34 Top

Quoting Sayjimwoo, reply 33

Yeah, it appeared again two days later on a cold boot. For some reason, it is not happening consistently.

I have since reverted to the default blue Start11 button for testing. So far, after dozens of boots throughout the day, it has been fine. Is the default start button applied differently compared to the other buttons?

I am using my own custom start button, but I don't see the issue. Please try out my custom start button below and see if the issue appear with this one. 

Thank you,

Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant

Reply #35 Top

Thanks, Basj. I am now using your custom button and will report any findings. Thank you for all this help.

Reply #36 Top

Quoting basj, reply 27

Understandable, perhaps, you would prefer to test it on Windows Sandbox as mentioned here: https://support.stardock.com/space/SHC/1416855562/Testing+Start+in+Sandbox 

Or, you can do the Cleanboot steps: Refer here: https://support.stardock.com/space/SHC/1332445272/Fences+Clean+Boot. Do note Clean boot need to be done with care.

Try these steps and report back.

I'm going to be real with you — this is such an extremely minor problem that I really don't feel like doing all of that. Like I said, I would happily configure it to never show tooltips at all if that were possible, so I will happily just live with such a minor display bug in the thing I never use intentionally :p

I was just reporting out of a sense that if it were my software I would want to know how it behaves on peoples' computers as they actually are and not just in some perfect sterile fully-stock environment.

Thanks for your help so far and thanks for Start11 in general (it's good!) and sorry if this is disappointing lol

Reply #37 Top

Unfortunately that was short lived, they went back to empty boxes the next time I was using my PC, I'll have to have the enchanced taskbar turned of for now.  I don't know if anyone else has this issue, I've been waiting for an update to fix it, but it's not this one :(

Reply #39 Top

Just for Information: The last Windows Update from yesterday messed everything in my Multimonitor setup with Start 11, I was not getting any icons on the Start11 taskbar, everything was getting slow and frozen, no matter how many times I restarted Explorer, the Start 11 service and the app. In the end I had to uninstall, reboot and install Start 11 to get back in order. Having lost 2 hours of work, from now on I will be always re-install Start 11 after a Windows Update to be on the safe side. 

Reply #40 Top

Quoting Nikosyan, reply 39

Just for Information: The last Windows Update from yesterday messed everything in my Multimonitor setup with Start 11, I was not getting any icons on the Start11 taskbar, everything was getting slow and frozen, no matter how many times I restarted Explorer, the Start 11 service and the app. In the end I had to uninstall, reboot and install Start 11 to get back in order. Having lost 2 hours of work, from now on I will be always re-install Start 11 after a Windows Update to be on the safe side. 

I cannot explain that as we should not care about OS updates being installed.

Glad it is working for you now though.

Reply #41 Top

I'm running Windows 11 Professional (25H2, OS build 26200.7840) on a system with two monitors. This machine never hosted Windows 10. My primary monitor is larger at 2560x1440, and positioned on the right. With a resolution of 1280x1024, the secondary monitor is smaller.
I'm currently running Start11 2.6.0.2, but this issue began with eariler versions. I've rebooted since installing this Start11 version.
I configure Start11 to position the taskbar on the right edge of the right hand monitor ("Align Right") to replicates the Windows 10 startbar position I used for many years. Autohide and resizing are currently turned off, although those settings don't appear to influence the problem behavior.
When I ask the Start11 configuration utility to restart Windows Explorer the taskbar initially appears on the bottom edge of the monitor, then after a few seconds it relocates to the right edge of the right hand monitor, i.e., normal behavior and the location I intended and want. The taskbar will remain visible there for hours or a day or two, then suddenly disappear. It feels like the taskbar is hidden, but I cannot get it to reappear.  Even when the startbar is invisible moving the cursor to the right edge of the monitor causes the window's thumbnails to appear, and I can successfully select a window. A right mouse click when the cursor is at the right edge of the screen and over a blank startbar area opens the menu whose top option is "Configure Start11". This is, of course, expected behavior.
I've tried turning on Start11's taskbar autohide, but that doesn't change the misbehavior, and with autohide turned on once the taskbar disappears it is still never visible.
I've tried reconfiguring the taskbar position to the bottom of the screen, and when positioned there it hasn't disappeared.
Once the taskbar disappears nothing I do restores visibility of the taskbar positioned on the right edge of the display other than rebooting Windows, e.g., locking and unlocking the screen. If I change the startbar location back to the bottom I will see normal taskbar behavior.
I'm a retired software developer. I'll gladly provide whatever help I can.

Reply #42 Top

Quoting rwzeitgeist, reply 41

I'm running Windows 11 Professional (25H2, OS build 26200.7840) on a system with two monitors. This machine never hosted Windows 10. My primary monitor is larger at 2560x1440, and positioned on the right. With a resolution of 1280x1024, the secondary monitor is smaller.
I'm currently running Start11 2.6.0.2, but this issue began with eariler versions. I've rebooted since installing this Start11 version.
I configure Start11 to position the taskbar on the right edge of the right hand monitor ("Align Right") to replicates the Windows 10 startbar position I used for many years. Autohide and resizing are currently turned off, although those settings don't appear to influence the problem behavior.
When I ask the Start11 configuration utility to restart Windows Explorer the taskbar initially appears on the bottom edge of the monitor, then after a few seconds it relocates to the right edge of the right hand monitor, i.e., normal behavior and the location I intended and want. The taskbar will remain visible there for hours or a day or two, then suddenly disappear. It feels like the taskbar is hidden, but I cannot get it to reappear.  Even when the startbar is invisible moving the cursor to the right edge of the monitor causes the window's thumbnails to appear, and I can successfully select a window. A right mouse click when the cursor is at the right edge of the screen and over a blank startbar area opens the menu whose top option is "Configure Start11". This is, of course, expected behavior.
I've tried turning on Start11's taskbar autohide, but that doesn't change the misbehavior, and with autohide turned on once the taskbar disappears it is still never visible.
I've tried reconfiguring the taskbar position to the bottom of the screen, and when positioned there it hasn't disappeared.
Once the taskbar disappears nothing I do restores visibility of the taskbar positioned on the right edge of the display other than rebooting Windows, e.g., locking and unlocking the screen. If I change the startbar location back to the bottom I will see normal taskbar behavior.
I'm a retired software developer. I'll gladly provide whatever help I can.

Hello,
Sorry to hear you are having issues. When the issue appear, and you do manual restart Explorer.exe, does that reset the taskbar and it appear again?

Thank you,
Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant.

Reply #43 Top

If by "manual restart" you refer to the Start11 Configuration program's "Restart explorer" button, clicking that button does not restore visibility of the taskbar.

If you refer to restarting Windows Explorer using Task Manager, I'll need to wait for the next failure to test restarting it.

Reply #44 Top

I mean this one "restarting Windows Explorer using Task Manager".

Thank you,

Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant

Reply #45 Top

Hey all,

I'm seeing a similar icon issue mentioned in the posts by Sayjimwoo.

I am running a Microsoft Surface Pro 9 i7-1265U/16GB RAM/512GB SSD with dual displays. The external display is 1920x1080 at 100% scale. The internal screen is 2880x1920 at 200% scale. I'm running Win 11 Pro 25H2 Build 26200.7840. I usually set the external display as the main display as I am slowly getting more myopic. 

If I plug in the external screen, the start icon sometimes displays correctly and sometimes slides off to the right and is covered by the next icon on the taskbar on the external screen. In those cases, the icon on the internal screen displays correctly.

If I boot with the external screen plugged in, the start icon displays correctly on the external screen, but is tiny on the internal screen and pushed to the left on the taskbar.

If I unplug the external screen in any case, the start icon on the internal screen becomes tiny and hard to use.

I have tried it with multiple icons, both custom ones and the ones that come with Start 11. They all behave the same way.

I have followed the steps suggested by basj to no avail.

This behavior began with the upgrade to 2.60. The icon worked beautifully on multiple screens in the previous version of Start 11 on the same machine. It has persisted across various uninstalls and re-installs of Start 11 and every system update since installing 2.60.

Currently I have mitigated by not using the custom icon and I'm mostly okay with that, because for me the start menu itself is more important than the start icon (the start menu works very nicely), but I wanted to add my experience to show that this seems to be a more universal issue than Sayjimwoo alone.

Blessings!

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Reply #46 Top

Quoting WolfHawke, reply 45

I have followed the steps suggested by basj to no avail.

Hello,
Sorry to hear you are having issues. Which suggested steps you have tried?

Thank you,
Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant.

Reply #47 Top

Anyone using last version of Start11 in a pc with an AMD VGA has problems with Adrenalin Panel not opening?

I'm trying to figure out a software incompatibility and don't know which software is the culprit.

Thanks.

Baio

Reply #48 Top

Quoting Baio73, reply 47

Anyone using last version of Start11 in a pc with an AMD VGA has problems with Adrenalin Panel not opening?

I'm trying to figure out a software incompatibility and don't know which software is the culprit.

Thanks.

Baio

I just tested this one. I don't have issue opening AMD Adrenalin panel via my Start11 Start menu.

Thank you,

Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant

Reply #49 Top

Quoting basj, reply 44

I mean this one "restarting Windows Explorer using Task Manager".

Thank you,

Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant

Start11 has not misbehaved since I reported the problem!

Reply #50 Top

I am using Start11 (new user) and have run into a problem.  When I run a PowerShell window, cmd.exe, and WSL window (some with multiple instances) they are all getting bunched into the one icon on the taskbar. 

I like having all items of the *same* kind on one icon, but in the screenshot below I'm running three different kinds of windows and so there should be three 'populated' icons on the task bar ... yet they are all grouped into the one icon (where my mouse is in the screenshot).

In fact, most of these windows are PowerShell windows, yet on the taskbar the PowerShell icon has no windows attached to it.

Is there a way to change this so that PowerShell windows go with the PowerShell icon, CMD windows with the CMD icon, WSL/Ubuntu windows with the Ubuntu icon?