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Groupy 2 General Release Feedback Thread

Groupy 2 General Release Feedback Thread

With the Groupy 2 general release, we are creating this thread so that users can report any observed issues.  

Obtaining the product

Object Desktop members can get the release from within Object Desktop Manager 

Individual purchases (as well as Object Desktop Members) can also be obtained from your account page: https://store.stardock.com/myaccount/products

For guest check-out purchase (no account), from this link: http://www.stardock.com/support/productkeyretrieval

Reporting an issue

Please include the following for anything found:

  • Exact Windows version \ build (winver.exe)

  • Detailed steps to recreate the issue seen

  • Screenshots and videos are very helpful.  Videos can be uploaded to a cloud drive service (GoogleDrive, DropBox, OneDrive, YouTube), with a shared link included in your post.  Images can be copied and pasted directly into a post.

  • If there are specific apps that the app does not work (well) with, please note what apps and their exact versions.  If any app is not common, a link to a trial version would be appreciated.

Thank you for your interest and any time you put into making Groupy 2 a better product.

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Reply #26 Top

I was wondering if Groupy 2 has a feature that allows you to close all open tabs in Notepad with just one click of the X button in the top right corner, instead of just closing the active tab. This is a similar function to the native tabs for Notepad and other applications. Could you please let me know if this setting exists or if I may have missed it? Thank you.

Reply #27 Top

Quoting chrischilderhose, reply 26

I was wondering if Groupy 2 has a feature that allows you to close all open tabs in Notepad with just one click of the X button in the top right corner, instead of just closing the active tab. This is a similar function to the native tabs for Notepad and other applications. Could you please let me know if this setting exists or if I may have missed it? Thank you.

This is currently not supported via that button, though you can right click on a tab and pick options to close all / one etc.

We are looking into the possibility of adding support for this for Notepad and Explorer at least.

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Reply #28 Top

Quoting Neil, reply 16


Quoting klepp0906,

So since the release of groupy 2 ive been trying to strike that balance between convenience while keeping it looking stock.

I requested an option to hide the groupy2 icon/button that was in the left of the titlebar as that deviated from that and I found redundant.

Hats off, you guys put that in lickity(sp?) split!

Apparently I wasnt getting update notifications and on a whim i manually checked.  Went from initial beta release to the current general release all in one go. 

Apparently the following was added to the new tab button and im wondering if theres an option to remove it so only the + is visible, akin to stock?   If not, consider this another feature request from me lol.  The right click context menu generally affords the same utility. 



If you add a string value called "G2_OldNewTabMode" with a value of "1" to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Stardock\Groupy\Groupy.ini\Groupy and then change any setting in Groupy config to make it reload settings it may work as you want.



FTR that registry value was what was/is needed to toggle it.  Will file it away until such a point/in case  you guys decide to/not to incorporate it in the gui.

thank you!

Reply #29 Top

Has anyone been able to confirm the group link creation issues I posted in replies 4 and 5 (also is there a way to link to replies?). I'm fairly confident it isn't my system as I've tested it on multiple machines one of which was just after a fresh format. 

Reply #30 Top

Cross-posting my list of issues/findings at the request of Basj:

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With "show only one combined button" enabled, if you un-group then re-group one of the grouped icons, the next time you hover over the icon, ONLY the preview of the re-grouped item appears, instead of the previews of all of the grouped apps.

After entering and leaving sleep mode, a duplicate of the combined icon appears in the task bar, and shows all of the apps except for the one which was re-added. If you hover over the original combined icon, it only shows the app you re-added, but it no longer functions as a working icon.

When saving Firefox into a group, after opening the group, all of the apps maintain their correct order except for Firefox which always appears first in the sequence of tabs.

The order of the apps in the hover-preview of the combined button doesn't correspond to the order of the tabs as they're grouped. This behavior is inconsistent -- sometimes reorganizing the tabs does change the order of the app previews.

The combined tab window doesn't have the options of the currently-active application. At a minimum, "maximize" and "minimize" should be available in addition to "close window".

Check for updates won't save when I change it to "on".

EDIT: Additional info... if you un-group and re-group additional tabs after the first one, the hover-preview will show each new app re-grouped in the order that they're regrouped (not the order of tabs). It's almost as if it "starts fresh".

EDIT 2: Firefox does not retain accent colors when restoring a saved group.

EDIT 3: Occasionally Excel fails to fully "integrate" with a saved group after the initial opening. When dragging another app in the group around the screen, the Excel window lags behind in the background, and also appears maximized after minimizing another app in the group. After minimizing Excel, it appears to work normally for the remainder of the session.

EDIT 4: Closing a tab in a saved group breaks the ability to see the hover-preview of the apps on the combined icon. If you reopen the application you closed and re-add it to the saved group, the tab accent doesn't return.

EDIT 5: Occasionally the combined icon (not hover-preview) only shows one/some of the grouped apps, instead of the 4 it should default to when 4+ apps are grouped.

EDIT 6: Now one of the duplicated icons is off-centered vertically

 

EDIT 7: For some reason two of my apps have duplicated themselves and created their own icons in the taskbar. This may have been due to attaching to an external display. The icons are non-functional:

EDIT 8: On occasion closing apps leaves an artifact that won't disappear until Groupy is killed and restarted. I believe hovering over the tab while closing it causes this:

EDIT 9: Occasionally when dragging apps out of groups, they will snap back into the group. This has persisted for many version of Groupy.

EDIT 10: Added videos -

Hover-Preview Bug (note I did NOT actually re-group Firefox, it snapped back into the group by itself): https://www.mediafire.com/file/8nw65xxd3ota0u5/Preview_Retention_Bug.mkv/file

Firefox Accent Color and Position Bug: https://www.mediafire.com/file/ww15wkj5xyt4y8b/Firefox_Color_and_Position_Bug.mkv/file

EDIT 11: Additional bugs discovered:

Inconsistent behavior when merging groups with 3+ tabs: https://www.mediafire.com/file/v7t31ftiom9gemx/Weird_Behavior_When_Merging_Groups_with_Over_3_Tabs.mkv/file

Closing a tab in a saved group kills the hover-preview. This doesn't seem to be the case in a group that was created ad-hoc, since it seems to "refresh" each time a tab is added/removed: https://www.mediafire.com/file/jklp6m7i3vsqe48/Closing_Tab_in_Group_Kills_Hover-Preview.mkv/file

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Groupy Version: Groupy 2 - 2.0.0.4

OS Name    Microsoft Windows 11 Pro
Version    10.0.22621 Build 22621

 

Reply #31 Top

Good evening Team Stardock! As a Windows 10 returnee from Windows 11, I discovered your software solution "Groupy2" and was super surprised at how well it works! Thanks for that. Found a bug that I'd like to report and give some feedback. As you can see on the pictures I use Groupy 2 for the file explorer in Win10.

 

Groupy2 Fileexplorer windows maximized- Win10

 

As soon as the explorer window is maximized and a new tab is added, the explorer window automatically shrinks and Groupy 2 slips out of the explorer (image2).

Win10 - Fileexplorer Window maximized and add new Tab on +

 

It would also be really great if the Groupy 2 bar wasn't so compressed when the explorer window is maximized. Is it possible to implement this later and fix the bug?

The next topic is not a bug but rather a cosmetic problem. In the pictures, Groupy 2 is attached as an additional frame on the file explorer above. In the first picture, the file explorer is quite normal and looks good. As soon as the file explorer window is maximized, the Groupy2 additional frame becomes smaller and there is a pixel gap between Groupy2 and the file explorer (see picture 3 with the red circles). This does not happen when maximizing to half the screen (see picture 2). My System: Windows 10 Pro, Version 22H2 (Build 19045.3086). Greetings Creativ3AK

 

 

Reply #32 Top

Quoting Lu9, reply 25

I would love to use this feature:



I am finding only one issue with it, though. I can't minimize the group from clicking on the taskbar icon, only from the minimize button at the top.

What should be taken into consideration is that I have my Windows 11 taskbar set to use the old/classic one (with labels showing) so maybe that could be part of the problem. Can't tell.

Winver: Windows 11 22H2 22621.1702, Using latest Groupy 2.0 release

 

EDIT: oh yeah, as a bonus I wanted a bit of clarification on the options related to the "Ctrl+N" shortcut... in a thread I made before Groupy 2 even started beta testing I mentioned the possibility of using an app's own "create new window" functionality (USUALLY mapped to Ctrl+N, but not always) instead of creating a new instance of the .exe - I can't tell if that's the case now, and what is the effect of enabling the Ctrl+N shortcut option in Groupy 2 now. So in short:

• What does "Use Ctrl+N to open a new tab (when possible)" do? Does it override an application's own Ctrl+N shortcut, does it create another instance of the application?

• Similarly, is that not also what "Make the add new tab button left side try to open a new copy of the application you are working in on all windows"

Just a bit confused so It'd be nice to have some clarification :)  

Not sure about how this thread works and how often the staff looks at it, but I'd still like at least get a reply about that at the end which is less a bug report and more a question about how should I expect a certain feature to work... 

though of course the first thing would be nice to address

Reply #33 Top

So I'm still having all of the same issues as before including creating new tabs via drag-drop not working. Groupy 2 is completely unusable for me. Is there a fix in the works?

EDIT:

It appears the problem with drag-drop was the settings were changed. I had to go back in and set it to use the shift button again. Not sure how that happened but drag-drop is working again aside from the xlucent drop target not being dismissed properly.

EDIT 2:

Also worth noting is that only the "Save Group" menu item fails. If I use "Save group as ..." and just use the same name (overwrite) it does not create the extra no name groups and correctly updates the group.

Reply #34 Top

Quoting Lu9, reply 25

I am finding only one issue with it, though. I can't minimize the group from clicking on the taskbar icon, only from the minimize button at the top.

Quoting Lu9, reply 32

Not sure about how this thread works and how often the staff looks at it, but I'd still like at least get a reply about that at the end which is less a bug report and more a question about how should I expect a certain feature to work... 

though of course the first thing would be nice to address

We have a lot of things to look at over the course of a release but we try to answer every question.

That's normal for taskbar buttons with multiple child windows; if you have combined taskbar buttons in the OS (ignore Groupy) it isn't possible as that's how the taskbar does it.  Windows only does the minimize on click on the taskbar button if the group contains one window in total.

However... We can see how this could be useful but not likely controlled by Groupy, rather Start11.  With that, I have logged it as a feature request for it, Lua9, thank you for it.

Internal ref:  ODNT-6667

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

 

Reply #35 Top

I have been using Groupy2 since the Beta phase and I'm surprised that the Microsoft Edge bug still exists in the release version.

When I group an MS Edge window, everything works fine. However, anytime I move the window to another group, the content is moved down by the size of a tab bar/title bar. This results in a black bar on top the Edge window, but it is only visual. The underlying content still reacts as if there was no shift.

 

Here's how that looks after some moves:

Now when I click to where the search field appears to be, I am actually clicking somewhere on the page. In order to get to the search bar, I need to click into the black void, where it's supposed to be.

Reply #36 Top

Quoting sgroupys, reply 35

I have been using Groupy2 since the Beta phase and I'm surprised that the Microsoft Edge bug still exists in the release version.

When I group an MS Edge window, everything works fine. However, anytime I move the window to another group, the content is moved down by the size of a tab bar/title bar. This results in a black bar on top the Edge window, but it is only visual. The underlying content still reacts as if there was no shift.

 

Here's how that looks after some moves:



Now when I click to where the search field appears to be, I am actually clicking somewhere on the page. In order to get to the search bar, I need to click into the black void, where it's supposed to be.

Hello,
Sorry to hear you are having issues. But, I can not reproduce your issue on my system. Maybe there is incompatibility issue with some of edge addon. Try running Edge with all the addon turn off and see if the issue still there.

Thanks
Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant.

Reply #37 Top

Quoting basj, reply 36


Quoting sgroupys,

I have been using Groupy2 since the Beta phase and I'm surprised that the Microsoft Edge bug still exists in the release version.

When I group an MS Edge window, everything works fine. However, anytime I move the window to another group, the content is moved down by the size of a tab bar/title bar. This results in a black bar on top the Edge window, but it is only visual. The underlying content still reacts as if there was no shift.

 

Here's how that looks after some moves:



Now when I click to where the search field appears to be, I am actually clicking somewhere on the page. In order to get to the search bar, I need to click into the black void, where it's supposed to be.



Hello,
Sorry to hear you are having issues. But, I can not reproduce your issue on my system. Maybe there is incompatibility issue with some of edge addon. Try running Edge with all the addon turn off and see if the issue still there.



Thanks
Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant.

 

No addons installed. Microsoft Edge Version 114.0.1823.51 (Official build) (64-bit) on Windows 11 22H2 Version 10.0.22621 Build 22621.1848

I do use PowerToys with FancyZones, maybe there's the issue?

Reply #38 Top

Quoting sgroupys, reply 37

No addons installed. Microsoft Edge Version 114.0.1823.51 (Official build) (64-bit) on Windows 11 22H2 Version 10.0.22621 Build 22621.1848

I do use PowerToys with FancyZones, maybe there's the issue?

I also use FancyZones, yet I don't have such issue. Could you post a video on this issue so I can see and understand it better and try to reproduce it on my system.

Thank you,

Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant

Reply #39 Top

Quoting basj, reply 38


Quoting sgroupys,

No addons installed. Microsoft Edge Version 114.0.1823.51 (Official build) (64-bit) on Windows 11 22H2 Version 10.0.22621 Build 22621.1848

I do use PowerToys with FancyZones, maybe there's the issue?



I also use FancyZones, yet I don't have such issue. Could you post a video on this issue so I can see and understand it better and try to reproduce it on my system.

Thank you,

Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant

Here you go. I noticed that it's even happening when the window is grouped into the same group again.

https://imgur.com/a/jHQcVsK

Reply #40 Top

I can not reproduce that issue. However, I have forwarded your problem/question to Stardock Support Team for their assistance. Please keep an eye on this thread for any updates. We appreciate your feedback and patience.

Thanks

Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant

Reply #41 Top

Quoting Neil, reply 16

If you add a string value called "G2_OldNewTabMode" with a value of "1" to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Stardock\Groupy\Groupy.ini\Groupy and then change any setting in Groupy config to make it reload settings it may work as you want.

Is it possible to change the functionality of this ugly arrow to the right-click mouse button menu (on plus/add icon)?

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Reply #42 Top

A white line appears at the top when clicking something inside website on Edge. 

W11 Build 22621.1848

Groupy trial version 2.0

1 group file explorer with edge

2 clic some image on Facebook

3 close the image window

4 clic any part of a website like this one

4 white bar appears and go quickly.

video: bandicam 2023-06-24 23-09-00-764.mp4

I suggest view this with slower speed to be able to see it. 

Reply #43 Top

Quoting klepp0906, reply 15

So since the release of groupy 2 ive been trying to strike that balance between convenience while keeping it looking stock.

I requested an option to hide the groupy2 icon/button that was in the left of the titlebar as that deviated from that and I found redundant.

Hats off, you guys put that in lickity(sp?) split!

Apparently I wasnt getting update notifications and on a whim i manually checked.  Went from initial beta release to the current general release all in one go. 

Apparently the following was added to the new tab button and im wondering if theres an option to remove it so only the + is visible, akin to stock?   If not, consider this another feature request from me lol.  The right click context menu generally affords the same utility. 


same

Reply #44 Top

Issue: Gap between Fancyzones (Powertoys) windows.


Windows 11 22H2 22631.1906
Powertoys 70.1
Groupy 2 stardock release

There is a gap/space between the top edge of 1 grouped Fancyzone, vs. the bottom of the next Fancyzone (on top)

Fancyzones is setup with 0 pixel space/no gap

Reply #45 Top

So as far as I can tell the save bug occurs after you save a group a second time. The first time you save a group the filename is listed using the full path (Left side of ss) If you change the group (tabs, size, pos, etc...) and click "Save group" again you end up with only the filename (right side of SS). This will leave you with a new group with no name (.groupy) and the original unchanged (test.groupy) group. See attached SS. 

I still would wish for auto updating especially for simple changes like group size/pos instead of having to go through the menus to resave a group each time I move it or Maximize/Minimize. 

EDIT:

It looks like it only does the above when adding/removing tabs to/from a group. Simply changing and resaving size/pos does not. Although the name change in the menu occurs anytime you resave.

 

Reply #47 Top

Quoting leorocca1233031, reply 46

opening files directly in notepad cause the groupy tabs UI go away.

W11 Build 22621.1848

Groupy trial version 2.0

Windows Notepad 11.2304.26.0



1)open notepad

2) clic file

3)open something 

4 it opens the selected file but groupy is not visible.

video: bandicam 2023-06-27 15-37-58-238.mp4

As noted in the Groupy UI for best compatibility you need to set notepad to open new files in new windows rather than a new tab.

Otherwise if notepad creates a new tab then Groupy will swap to non integrated mode.

Reply #48 Top

Quoting sgroupys, reply 39

Here you go. I noticed that it's even happening when the window is grouped into the same group again.

https://imgur.com/a/jHQcVsK

Hi sgroupys

I also cannot reproduce your issue, please review my video and see if you notice something that I am doing differently than you

https://cdn.stardock.us/support/uploads/2023-06-28_10-05-32tpscroggins.mp4

 

Paul Scroggins
Associate Technical Support Analyst

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Reply #49 Top

Quoting Neil, reply 47

As noted in the Groupy UI for best compatibility you need to set notepad to open new files in new windows rather than a new tab.

Otherwise if notepad creates a new tab then Groupy will swap to non integrated mode.

I see, thanks. 

Reply #50 Top

Hi,

I just renewed Groupy to version 2 for the sole purpose of launching several applications at once in particular the game store apps.

My workflow was usually: Lauch Steam and see whats new..., Launch EPIC and see whats new..., Launch Ubisoft Connect and see whats new... etc...

So Groupy 2 sound like a perfect solution...

BUT... (there is always a BUT, isn't it?)

STEAM does not launch!! All the other stores launch but not steam.
I Dont know why.

I'm really sure no steam instance is already running but no matter what I do STEAM does not launch. All the other app stores launch for example EPIC or Ubisoft connect.

Maybe some one could HELP me on this?

 

J.