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Start11 1.2 Beta Feedback Thread

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Start11 1.2 Beta Feedback Thread

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With the Start11 1.2 beta release today, we are creating this thread so that users can report any observed issues.  

Obtaining the beta:

Object Desktop members can get the beta from within Object Desktop Manager with 'show beta downloads' enabled:

Individual purchases (as well as Object Desktop Members) can also be obtained from your account page:

https://store.stardock.com/myaccount/products

As we want as much feedback as possible for this release, we are making Start11 1.2 beta available to all.  The following direct link to the installer can be used for both licensed users and for any potential client wanting to (30 day) trial Start11 1.2 beta.

1.16: https://cdn.stardock.us/downloads/public/software/start/Start11_1.16-j140-Setup.exe
1.17: https://cdn.stardock.us/downloads/public/software/start/Start11_1.17-j151-Setup.exe

Reporting an issue:

Please include the following for anything found:

  • Exact Windows version \ build (winver.exe)
  • Detailed steps to recreate the issue seen
  • Screenshots and videos are very helpful.  Videos can be uploaded to a cloud drive services (GoogleDrive, DropBox, OneDrive, YouTube) and link included in your post.  Images can be directly added.
  • If there are specific apps that the app does not work (well) with, please note what apps and their exact versions.  If any app is not common, a link to a trial version would be appreciated.

Thank you for your interest and any time you put into making Start11  a better product.

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Reply #76 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting eugeniotassoni2, reply 74

I installed the beta on Win 11 verr. 21H2 build 22000.318 and found on the following:

- if I select the small size of the taskbar, the time and date are moved down and therefore are partially cut off

- is it possible to keep start button in central position and keep the icons of opened windows in the taskbar not combined? Explorer patcher does this

Thanks

The second option is not possible as unlike other products we retain the Windows 11 taskbar rather than using leftover code in explorer for the Windows 10 taskbar and changes in the OS that are coming soon will make this more complicated for putting the start button in the centre so we didn't want to advertise a feature and then lose it later.  Our method allows us to retain the feel of the taskbar and all the new features it offers.

Reply #77 from Stardock Forums Top

There is a small incompatibility with Tiles, the taskbar doesn't go all the way to the right when Tiles is running(I know Tiles 2 status is still TBD with windows 11)


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Reply #81 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting kinwolf1, reply 77

There is a small incompatibility with Tiles, the taskbar doesn't go all the way to the right when Tiles is running(I know Tiles 2 status is still TBD with windows 11)



That would indeed appear to be a bug.  Will get that sorted.

Reply #82 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting mrcairo, reply 75

Read the thread to see if there were any like mine but I seem to be alone in this so without the Taskbar enabled I have the standard looking icons all grouped together like so the first image

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However once I enable to taskbar setting and choose never combine I seem to lose all my icons even after an explorer refresh and windows reboot,  Uninstall and reisntall has not resolved this

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The only way I can see any icons after that is to disable the taskbar and restart explorer.

 

 

Which version of Windows 11 are you using?

Reply #83 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting Neil, reply 82


Quoting mrcairo,
reply 75

Read the thread to see if there were any like mine but I seem to be alone in this so without the Taskbar enabled I have the standard looking icons all grouped together like so the first image




Reduced 62%


Original 1342 x 768



However once I enable to taskbar setting and choose never combine I seem to lose all my icons even after an explorer refresh and windows reboot,  Uninstall and reisntall has not resolved this




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Original 1361 x 768



The only way I can see any icons after that is to disable the taskbar and restart explorer.

 

 



Which version of Windows 11 are you using?

 

 

Using the most up to date version ..hang on

Windows 11 Pro Version 21H2 (OS build 22000.556)

 

 

Reply #84 from Stardock Forums Top

Windows 11 Home 21H2 22000.556

Start11 v1.16 - Modern style

Let Start11 enhance the taskbar - on

Taskbar buttons should be combined - tried all three options

I have an application pinned to the Taskbar that has no internal icon so I link an external icon file under the application properties.

The linked icon does not display when 'Let Start11 enhance the taskbar' is on. You see the icon for a second after clicking [Restart explorer] and then it disappears.

You can control this behavior by turning 'Let Start11 enhance the taskbar' on (no icon) or off (icon displays).

Reply #85 from Stardock Forums Top

Hello ! using version 1.16 i have a problem when i enable "enhance taskbar" feature and taskbar size set to small. Pictures bellow speak for themself.

 

Windows 11 version 22000.576
Resolution : 3840x2160@120hz
Scale : 225%

 

With "enhance tb" :

problem with horizontal alignment it seems.

 

Without "enhance TB" :

All is ok.

 

Have no problem excepting that, everything is perfect. dreamed software for Win11.

 

Thank you very much ! :smitten:  \o/  ^_^  

Reply #86 from Stardock Forums Top

Great software - two small issues...

  1. Clicking the time and date doesn't bring up the calendar, nothing happens.  Clicking the audio and network icon works fine.
  2. Microsoft Edge installed "apps" icons are missing:

Windows version Windows 11 Pro 21H2 22000.556.
Monitor Samsung G9, 240hz 5120x1440

 

Reply #87 from Stardock Forums Top

Clicking the time and date doesn't bring up the calendar, nothing happens.  Clicking the audio and network icon works fine.

After seeing this post, I tried and, indeed, I have the same problem, the date/calendar/notification bar doesn't appear at all when clicking on the clock..

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Reply #88 from Stardock Forums Top

apologies if I missed a reference to this somewhere, but I did see this question asked several months ago, and I don't see any current answers:

 

Any plans to add the capability to allow the taskbar to be multiple rows? I used that all the time and really miss it! thx.

Reply #89 from Stardock Forums Top

if I click on the calendar the relative fly out window opens on the left where I have the Start button or not at all all, and the icon of the notification center has disappeared

Reply #90 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting jaddorf, reply 54

When I open a command prompt window by clicking the Start button and then typing "CMD<enter>" into the search pane, the console window that opens does NOT get keyboard focus - characters typed end up on the search pane.

If I click on Start again and start typing characters, they do NOT appear on the search pane - they just go into the bit bucket.  If I open and close the Start Menu 3-4 times then the search pane starts to accept characters again.

In testing we have not been able to reproduce this or explain it.

Which menu style are you using and which search mode (Start11, Start10 or use Windows Search?)

Reply #91 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting palacekeeper, reply 88

apologies if I missed a reference to this somewhere, but I did see this question asked several months ago, and I don't see any current answers:

 

Any plans to add the capability to allow the taskbar to be multiple rows? I used that all the time and really miss it! thx.

You can do this with the current beta.  If you enable the option to enhance the taskbar you can drag the taskbar up to multiple rows assuming you have not locked it (right click on the taskbar to show a menu to show locked state)

Reply #92 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting Jim, reply 84

Windows 11 Home 21H2 22000.556

Start11 v1.16 - Modern style

Let Start11 enhance the taskbar - on

Taskbar buttons should be combined - tried all three options

I have an application pinned to the Taskbar that has no internal icon so I link an external icon file under the application properties.

The linked icon does not display when 'Let Start11 enhance the taskbar' is on. You see the icon for a second after clicking [Restart explorer] and then it disappears.

You can control this behavior by turning 'Let Start11 enhance the taskbar' on (no icon) or off (icon displays).

I assume that when running the correct icon does appear?

Reply #93 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting Neil, reply 92

Quoting Jim Byram,

reply 84

Windows 11 Home 21H2 22000.556

Start11 v1.16 - Modern style

Let Start11 enhance the taskbar - on

Taskbar buttons should be combined - tried all three options

I have an application pinned to the Taskbar that has no internal icon so I link an external icon file under the application properties.

The linked icon does not display when 'Let Start11 enhance the taskbar' is on. You see the icon for a second after clicking [Restart explorer] and then it disappears.

You can control this behavior by turning 'Let Start11 enhance the taskbar' on (no icon) or off (icon displays).



> I assume that when running the correct icon does appear?

Didn't try that.

'Let Start11 enhance the taskbar' is off - icon from icon file appears

'Let Start11 enhance the taskbar' is on - generic icon appears

'Let Start11 enhance the taskbar' is on and click to start the program - generic icon disappears from the taskbar and there is a blank where the icon should be. Click on the blank area (while the program is running) and the generic icon reappears.

Close the program and click on the generic icon to restart the program and the generic icon remains on the taskbar... no blank area on the second run.

Reply #94 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting Jim, reply 93


Quoting Neil Banfield,
reply 92


Quoting Jim Byram,



reply 84


Windows 11 Home 21H2 22000.556

Start11 v1.16 - Modern style

Let Start11 enhance the taskbar - on

Taskbar buttons should be combined - tried all three options

I have an application pinned to the Taskbar that has no internal icon so I link an external icon file under the application properties.

The linked icon does not display when 'Let Start11 enhance the taskbar' is on. You see the icon for a second after clicking [Restart explorer] and then it disappears.

You can control this behavior by turning 'Let Start11 enhance the taskbar' on (no icon) or off (icon displays).



> I assume that when running the correct icon does appear?



Didn't try that.

'Let Start11 enhance the taskbar' is off - icon from icon file appears

'Let Start11 enhance the taskbar' is on - generic icon appears

'Let Start11 enhance the taskbar' is on and click to start the program - generic icon disappears from the taskbar and there is a blank where the icon should be. Click on the blank area (while the program is running) and the generic icon reappears.

Close the program and click on the generic icon to restart the program and the generic icon remains on the taskbar... no blank area on the second run.

What program is this?

Reply #95 from Stardock Forums Top

 The taskbar is completely unresponsive to touch and that is the only thing stopping me from using it on my surface pro. I'm hoping this will be fixed in the next build.

Reply #96 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting mackid1993, reply 95

 The taskbar is completely unresponsive to touch and that is the only thing stopping me from using it on my surface pro. I'm hoping this will be fixed in the next build.

We are aware and know whats wrong.  Side effect of fixing the right click menu to work with touch.

You can expect that to be fixed for the next build, sorry about that.

Reply #97 from Stardock Forums Top

would it be possible to add exclude/include taskbar buttons based on window class? It would help fix my issue with gcc4ti

Reply #98 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting Neil, reply 96


Quoting mackid1993,
reply 95

 The taskbar is completely unresponsive to touch and that is the only thing stopping me from using it on my surface pro. I'm hoping this will be fixed in the next build.



We are aware and know whats wrong.  Side effect of fixing the right click menu to work with touch.

You can expect that to be fixed for the next build, sorry about that.

 

Thanks for the reply. Any idea when the next build will be published? Ungrouping taskbar icons is such a nice feature to have again.

Reply #99 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting Neil, reply 94

Quoting Jim Byram,

reply 93

Quoting Neil Banfield,

reply 92

reply 84

Windows 11 Home 21H2 22000.556

Start11 v1.16 - Modern style

Let Start11 enhance the taskbar - on

Taskbar buttons should be combined - tried all three options

I have an application pinned to the Taskbar that has no internal icon so I link an external icon file under the application properties.

The linked icon does not display when 'Let Start11 enhance the taskbar' is on. You see the icon for a second after clicking [Restart explorer] and then it disappears.

You can control this behavior by turning 'Let Start11 enhance the taskbar' on (no icon) or off (icon displays).\
 
Quoting Jim Byram,

> I assume that when running the correct icon does appear?

Didn't try that.

'Let Start11 enhance the taskbar' is off - icon from icon file appears

'Let Start11 enhance the taskbar' is on - generic icon appears

'Let Start11 enhance the taskbar' is on and click to start the program - generic icon disappears from the taskbar and there is a blank where the icon should be. Click on the blank area (while the program is running) and the generic icon reappears.

Close the program and click on the generic icon to restart the program and the generic icon remains on the taskbar... no blank area on the second run.
 
What program is this?

GedSite

https://gedsite.com/en/index.htm

I realize that programs without an embedded icon are unusual.

Reply #100 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting Neil, reply 63

You can already drag the taskbar to be more rows. Buttons also shrink as much as they reasonably can when space gets low and then the taskbar gains a scrollbar.

When running Windows 11 version  22000.588

The described methods sound very good. But, I am not seeing this behavior on Windows 11. I do see the option "allow taskbar to be resized" but when clicked to "yes" the only thing that changes is the mouse effect near the resize area. The actual taskbar does not seem to change. Also I am not seeing a change in the size of tabs as the menu becomes full nor am I seeing the scrollbar. The overflow of tabs just aren't present at all.

Did I miss a setting, or is this a bug my end or something that is going to be implemented in the future?