rezsavak

Multiplayer Noob Feedback

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Multiplayer Noob Feedback

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Played Sins vanilla way back and decided to pick Rebellion up during the steam sale.

I really like the game and I wanted to provide some feedback on the multiplayer aspect for a noob viewpoint in case the devs care to improve the experience.

1 - Multiplayer tutorials - would really help highlight key points to a noob going into MP, which as we know is very different to solo play.  Stuff like the "eco" role needs to be explained somewhere, it makes sense once u think about it but truly new players would not just automatically know this.  It would also help to have a pre-requisite training mission where you are introduced to pointers that are key to the beginning play... e.g. what capital is usually most useful, your role on the team depending on start position, the best first few ships and techs so that you aren't gimped going into mid game.  I know this is not easy, but right now there is nothing.

2 - Matchmaking - I have been booted for not having high enuff played ratio (which is fair enuff because the folks in the game want a good expert game) - but it's not right to have someone wait for twenty minutes or more for your game to fill up then kick you.  There should be a noob queue system so that folks that don't mind playing with other noobs, just press a button and get auto queued.  Auto queued would also get around the other issue I saw where a host wants to stack experienced players on his side and just stomp the noobs.  Both these situations lead to the new player not having much fun or even learning much = not queuing again = less peeps playing multiplayer.

I really like Sins but i think the multiplayer experience for a noob really holds it back in terms of player numbers.  I think the depth of strategy is so much better than SC2 but SC2's matchmaking system is amazing.  What I am talking about above is not because I dont like to learn.. i do, but the MP system currently strongly favors experienced players and discourages new players.  That is fine if that is the only crowd this game is for, i'm not sure if that is the case but i thought I would share my experience.

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Reply #27 from Sins Forums Top

Hi - so I watched the replay. Basically, I'd read some of the stuff in this thread about starting Tec capital ships (dont' use a Kol - I'd recommmend Akkan until you get better) and how to colonize moons and asteroids with just a colony frigate:

https://forums.sinsofasolarempire.com/433648

Your early game colonization could be faster that way.

Were you able to scout and identify that asteroid as the key chokepoint planet to hold? Your opponent got it and built a Vasari SB there first. You need only bombers to ogrovs to attack it - a mass of LRMs (15 or so for a 3000 health starting SB) can work too - corvettes and flak and light frigates will all just die uselessly.

Your opponent got lucky with a much better string of planets (4 terrans inc. his HW) than you. There was a point in the game where you had a lot of resources, had all your planets colonized, a fleet, and your opponent had spent a lot on his SB. That's the point to start teching for and getting your Titan out. I don't remember if you got trade ports or not but if you didn't, you really should as TEC and string first and last port as far apart as you can. It was fairly short game so there isn't much more to say than that.

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Reply #28 from Sins Forums Top

Thanks Ekko.It seems i am not as bad as i thought.  But i have so much to learn anyway.

Actually i dont watch for my scouts. I made them autoscout and forget. So i didn't see the chokepoint. I dont have map control much. I should work on that.

If u had time i would like to play a match or two with you.

 

 

Reply #29 from Sins Forums Top

Quoting Greg30007, reply 21
To be honest my name isn't really Greg 


Ok now u just flipped sins upsidedown...

like a rapture.

Reply #30 from Sins Forums Top

Quoting ViaRed, reply 3
I've never seen true "pros" stacking a team, most of them cry out since it's dead boring to beat a dead donkey with a stick.

There are however "pro" players about now who do not kick noobs from the game. They believe that teaching the young ones will help the game.

They believe right..

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Reply #31 from Sins Forums Top

As a new player myself i agree with rezsavak, i like the game and i want to play it online but its too hard to find a game to practice my skill, either because it takes too long to get one going or i get booted because of my skill level.

Reply #32 from Sins Forums Top

Quoting Seve1rus, reply 32
As a new player myself i agree with rezsavak, i like the game and i want to play it online but its too hard to find a game to practice my skill, either because it takes too long to get one going or i get booted because of my skill level.

 

I am a beginner too. Add me from steam if u want to play online. I prefer especially 2v2 and i look for teammates.

 

steam id:thedreamon

Reply #33 from Sins Forums Top

Quoting thedreamon, reply 33

Quoting Seve1rus, reply 32As a new player myself i agree with rezsavak, i like the game and i want to play it online but its too hard to find a game to practice my skill, either because it takes too long to get one going or i get booted because of my skill level.

 

I am a beginner too. Add me from steam if u want to play online. I prefer especially 2v2 and i look for teammates.

 

steam id:thedreamon

I added you on steam.  I actually find that I perform the best on sins when I play naked with only a pair of thermal socks on so that I don't catch frostbite on my extremities.  It is also advisable in the event you suddenly get called for nude hunting, which has become quite popular in the realms of Caribbean beachfront ski resorts.

Reply #34 from Sins Forums Top

I saw your friend request an accepted.

Umm, i played dressed is that a problem ? :grin: