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[Feedback/Request] On Map Version 4 and the aspect of "Chance"

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[Feedback/Request] On Map Version 4 and the aspect of "Chance"

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With one of the recent release builds of Rebellion, support for map version 3, which did not have the forced moveAreaRadius and hyperspaceExitRadius inserts, was cut. I feel that this lack of support takes much away from making maps.

As version 4 does not allow for the various Random objects to have an moveAreaRadius and hyperspaceExitRadius based off the entity of whatever spawns, taking away an additional form of chance or "randomness". For example, if one puts a WeightedRandom in a map, regardless of spawns, such as an Ice planet or a Dead Asteroid, they will have the same movement area. Plus, nor does it allow, for modders, the ability to put in suns of various sizes with different areas of movement.

Due to these, however futile it may be, I request that either map version 4 has some sort of option to let the moveAreaRadius and hyperspaceExitRadius be left blank or allow for a wildcard symbol (aka. the game loads these values from the planet/star's entity file as in the past), or that map version 3 support be re-added.

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Reply #126 from Sins Forums Top

and yet another flaming dodgem hits the wall, causing the wall to start to smolder

harpo

 

Reply #127 from Sins Forums Top

Save us, Stardock! Were going to be lit aflame by these flaming dodgems! Save us before the forum burns down!

Sins of a Solar Empire II
Reply #128 from Sins Forums Top

No, it is already burning.

Reply #129 from Sins Forums Top

Yeah, at this point we're all fiddling while the Rebellion section burns.

Reply #130 from Sins Forums Top

flames, flames everywhere

Reply #131 from Sins Forums Top

and another dodgem hits the flaming wall

harpo

 

Reply #132 from Sins Forums Top

Bump

Reply #133 from Sins Forums Top

I will throw my voice in with yours, this is something I would like to see the devs fix!

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Reply #134 from Sins Forums Top

Bump

Reply #135 from Sins Forums Top

Bumper cars on the Sins forums!

Reply #136 from Sins Forums Top

also known in au as dodgem cars.

harpo

 

Reply #137 from Sins Forums Top

dodgem cars!

Reply #138 from Sins Forums Top

and yet MORE dodgems hit the fires

harpo

 

Reply #139 from Sins Forums Top

bump...

do we really think 1.04 will do the job?  Is there a tentative changelog for 1.04?

 

Reply #141 from Sins Forums Top

and we now have a statement from yarlen of the map reading issue in the 1.04 changelog thread

Quoting harpo99999,
reply 51
Ccould you please either check the mapversion number then REFUSE to read the map if it was the wrong version(as vanilla sins did) OR (and this is MY preference) re-enable the correct reading of mapversion 3 as rebellion beta, release and 1.01 did.

We will update the game so it will no longer load outdated map versions.

 

 

harpo

 

Reply #142 from Sins Forums Top

Sounds like the devs aren't changing anything at all, just going to do a rudimentary check for the versionNumber and if it isn't 4 it doesn't get loaded.

Depending on how that goes, this might make things worse, as it might actually force the insertion of moveAreaRadius and hyperspaceExitRadius values, versus the game just loading them with the dev exe throwing a pointless fit. Ah well, at least there is some sort of answer, even if inconclusive.

Reply #143 from Sins Forums Top

I also made that assumption from the reply.

harpo

 

Reply #144 from Sins Forums Top

Wait, so does this mean we should stop bumping this thread?

Reply #145 from Sins Forums Top

only as far as the no longer crashing when attempting to read old maps issue, but regarding the other issues then bump away.

harpo

 

Reply #146 from Sins Forums Top

I didn't get crashes from old maps, that is when everything but moveAreaRadius and hyperspaceExitRadius were added, though that issue was not the reason for making this thread. Bumped this thread shall be!

Reply #147 from Sins Forums Top

Bump

Reply #149 from Sins Forums Top

harpo, is 1.04 live yet? If so, do you know what changes SD has done? Asking as I don't have access to my main comp which has updated Sins on it. Edit: Or rather, if anyone can see if Sins can load this map. This map will throw errors, but if it loads, it means SD hasn't made any new map breaking changes.

Reply #150 from Sins Forums Top

the map gives six errors on loading from the galaxyforge folder, but it did load and all of the maps I had converted to mapversion 4 in the past also loaded with just the usual errors regarding the rebel spawns.

harpo