Mecha-Lenin Mecha-Lenin

This forum is not for me to "troll"

This forum is not for me to "troll"

Therefore I'm out of this forum. There are maybe 4-5 active posters on this forum who know anything about balance. Now minus 1. You clearly don't want any advice or discussion on balancing, because you are doing great job yourselves. Keep it up!

Bye Bye

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Reply #51 Top

Then why did you just post here? :p

 

Reply #52 Top

I won't lie I do alot of lurking here, but most of the OP's posts are overwhelmingly negative and suggest that he's either a basement dweller or extremely young. Alot of these "troll threads" are more or less flamebait and should be promptly deleted, hell im falling for it right now.

Reply #53 Top

I assure you not all the trolls here are basement dwellers nor young...some people just like trolling even when they're 52...not to mention any names :troll:

Reply #54 Top

There are also the 'sportsman trollery', when you actively sip a bit of obnoxious serum and just trample away, but does not actually hold any grudge against anyone, or feels your words by heart. This flavour of trolldom also tends to raise your immune system defenses against all trolls, as you become aware that many of those trolls may just have a strange sense of humour and want to have a good time (just like you).

It's like extending the 'best friend status' to barely-known people over the internet. You know, those best friends which can bemoan, harass, swear and otherwise ridicule each other, but are always in good terms and don't take any of each other's shit by heart, cause they know it's just an expression of *FRATERNAL LOVE*

Cue space ponies ultimate galaxy love rainbow theme.

Reply #55 Top

Quoting Seleuceia, reply 49

Quoting Greg30007, reply 46As SP player you will never know what is true balance. WHY? Because AI is stupid and has no imagination cannot predicts human movements and will always suicide his fleet on either turrets + fleet or SB. Therefore you can say Game as it is is balanced

So so true...but, a lot of SP guys unfortunately don't recognize this or agree with it...

 

Well, atleast i do. The "I" in AI does not stand for "Intelligence" but "Incompetence" :p And i'm not talking about Sins, but games in general. No AI can match human. And if they ever do, we should burn all computers 8C

Reply #56 Top

I for one blah blah robot overlords.

Reply #57 Top

@ Mecha

My patience is very low as it is as well and me too I get frustrated 

BUT you do have to realize game just came out and think back how long it took them to balance diplo. Diplo is not perfect but its balance is All right I guess. Here they have 6 races with more ships and its not just rock paper scissors anymore.

Regarding people that are posting. Well free speech to everyone and especially now nob to skilled ration is higher than ever. It is up to devs to decide if they want to make balanced game or a game where you build one ship and it is insta win. They need to put weight on whose opinion matters more someones who is playing game for 5 years and knows inside workings very well or someones who just bought the game.

IMO that decision will decide if this will be just average game which you will play 1-2 times or a game whose replayability will raise it above all others. Replayability made sins what it is nothing else.

You also need to give them some credit I mean in the end they did nerf titans back in beta and if you remember there was tons  of posts not to do it.  

Reply #58 Top


Therefore I'm out of this forum. There are maybe 4-5 active posters on this forum who know anything about balance. Now minus 1. You clearly don't want any advice or discussion on balancing, because you are doing great job yourselves. Keep it up!

Bye Bye


I'll make it simple for you: fuck off.  That enough for you?

Reply #59 Top

XATHOS: FROGBOY IN DISGUISE

:troll:   :frogboy:

Okay probably not...but that's what Brad would say to Mecha...more professionally, of course...

Reply #60 Top

Quoting Seleuceia, reply 60
XATHOS: FROGBOY IN DISGUISE

 

Okay probably not...but that's what Brad would say to Mecha...more professionally, of course...

I spend about 3 years in administration of a forum.  Trust me, I've had my fair deal with trolls.  Some minor trolling for lulz is fine, and to be expected, but constant shit is annoying.  I just IP ban them and be done with it.

Reply #61 Top

Urgh. Just because someone doesn't know what they're talking about doesn't mean that you have to tell them that in an ass-holish fashion.

Reply #62 Top

Mecha there is a lot of pussy in the world and make believe pussy online that can entertain you. Please go hit the gym and call it day or jerk one off. 

Reply #63 Top

Quoting OddskiBoddski, reply 62
Urgh. Just because someone doesn't know what they're talking about doesn't mean that you have to tell them that in an ass-holish fashion.

So, you should treat trolls with dignity because they are oh so productive like the rest of the userbase?  Gotcha.

Reply #64 Top

Quoting XATHOS, reply 59
I'll make it simple for you: fuck off. That enough for you?

That's some foul language young man. You moderated porn forum?

Reply #65 Top

Quoting Greg30007, reply 58
@ Mecha

My patience is very low as it is as well and me too I get frustrated 

BUT you do have to realize game just came out and think back how long it took them to balance diplo. Diplo is not perfect but its balance is All right I guess. Here they have 6 races with more ships and its not just rock paper scissors anymore.

Regarding people that are posting. Well free speech to everyone and especially now nob to skilled ration is higher than ever. It is up to devs to decide if they want to make balanced game or a game where you build one ship and it is insta win. They need to put weight on whose opinion matters more someones who is playing game for 5 years and knows inside workings very well or someones who just bought the game.

IMO that decision will decide if this will be just average game which you will play 1-2 times or a game whose replayability will raise it above all others. Replayability made sins what it is nothing else.

You also need to give them some credit I mean in the end they did nerf titans back in beta and if you remember there was tons  of posts not to do it.  

Corvettes are OP for like... 2 months now? It's really not hard to nerf them at least a bit, to make game semi-enjoyable. I played 2 matches today and felt really, really bored. Early game is now spam fest because of corvettes. Late game 1v2 is so much harder becacuse of titans. In diplo late game pro player could 1v2 fairly easily, but with titans importance of skill is diminshed.

Besides, it's not only about current balance. It's about concept of some of  new ships in Rebellion. Mostly...

Corvettes. Anti-everything ship in counter based game, which has speed of SC. You can try to nerf it, but in the end it's still ANTI-EVERYTHING ship in COUNTER BASED game. Again, it's diminishing importance of skill, and ruining fun factor.

This game has become spam fest. Diplo in its history had it's fair share of OP ships, but none of them were faulty in design.

Reply #66 Top

Quoting Mecha-Lenin, reply 65

That's some foul language young man. You moderated porn forum?

No language is foul.  It's just a bunch of uptight people.  It's only an issue if it's abused like crazy.  And I didn't moderate anything, I ran the day-to-day of a general entertainment forum (it grew out of a base).

Reply #67 Top

Corvettes are really just an issue until flak can be brought out in sufficient numbers.  I think the main difficulty with balancing them has been something that nerfs them early on without making them worthless later when players have access to as many AoE's as they want.

Reply #68 Top

Quoting XATHOS, reply 64
So, you should treat trolls with dignity because they are oh so productive like the rest of the userbase? Gotcha.

I think he was saying that just because a noob doesn't understand the game and doesn't know what they are talking about, skilled players don't have the right to be mean to them...

 

Reply #69 Top

Quoting Seleuceia, reply 69

Quoting XATHOS, reply 64So, you should treat trolls with dignity because they are oh so productive like the rest of the userbase? Gotcha.

I think he was saying that just because a noob doesn't understand the game and doesn't know what they are talking about, skilled players don't have the right to be mean to them...

Or he did it just to, you know, troll. :troll:

Reply #70 Top

Lenin is right, the balance of this game goes down the toilet.

 

MP matches are wont by the team who gets VR or VL in eco sport. If your team have advent or tec in eco spots and enemy got vasari, your team loses unless teams are stacked in player skill department... and i mean REALLY stacked.

Your side players must be complete incompetent idiots not to hold long enough for vasari to get up to speed. And after that, good luck fighting off either fully fleet capped VL omnomnoming all your stuff, or fighting off 20 roaming 0 pop cap orkies, while VR player feeds everyone with recourses. VR virtually need first upgrade pop cap to be able mop the floor with 5 or 6th tier pop cap fleets. Balance my hairy ass...

Reply #71 Top

Quoting Volt_Cruelerz, reply 68
many AoE's as they want

What? What AoE?

Flak in sufficient numbers.... I clearly said early game. Early game usually decides whole match.

Not to mention all early game fleet builds (there's pretty much 1 lol) are designed to counter corvettes. That pretty much explains that they are OP.

Volt, do you play on ICO?

Reply #72 Top

Regarding AoE's, I was making a generalization.  But as to your question, Nano Leech.

And I've been playing some MP, but not a whole lot.

Reply #73 Top

OK next time I counter corvettes with a titan.

Reply #74 Top

Quoting Volt_Cruelerz, reply 73


And I've been playing some MP, but not a whole lot.

 

Then shut the **** up and keep your opinions to yourself while adults talk.

 

Let me remind you, all you SP players, that the same tactics that are OP in MP, literally stomps AI to the ground.

SP AI is as easily beaten by current OP stuff as any other player who dont do metagame.

Reply #75 Top

Quoting Cpt_Siddy, reply 75



Quoting Volt_Cruelerz,
reply 73


And I've been playing some MP, but not a whole lot.


 

Then shut the **** up and keep your opinions to yourself while adults talk.

 

Let me remind you, all you SP players, that the same tactics that are OP in MP, literally stomps AI to the ground.

SP AI is as easily beaten by current OP stuff as any other player who dont do metagame.

And here is that lovely attitude that a people are having issues with in the MP community :p

In short most of the sins MP community seems to be of the mindset of if you don't play MP then shut the fuck up and your opinions don't matter so don't bother posting.... Sounds like a fun community to be a part of.