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Blood Diamonds … the movie 1999 (R)

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Blood Diamonds … the movie 1999 (R)

Money is the route to all evil

from JoeUser Forums

There are so many real time tragedies that it would be impossible to list them all. But the simple truth as brought out in the beginning is that whenever a substance of value is found (diamonds here) in an undeveloped local, it is a virtual death sentence for the local population. These people just want to live life without conscription (in the cause of others). Thank whomever that they have not found gold there … YET.

 My heart tells me that people are inherently good honest folk, but my experience has sadly proven otherwise.

Would you say that people are mostly good? My immediate answer would be NO … but on reflection, I would say that they are just being people. It is what they do that makes them good or bad, not what they believe or think.

I do not think many humans could have survived (sane) the personal tragedy this black man and his family were forced to endure. This movie portrays the harm (especially to the young) that brainwashing is capable of achieving. It also portrays the depths humans (so they call themselves) can descend into to promote only evil and debauchery under some high and mighty banner.

It also portrays how a corrupt person (the white guy) can be brought to see the truth in the end … that life does not equate well with money.

I do not want to say much more here (now), because I do not want to give the movie away (in case some have not seen it).

I will say this though: If you can tolerate watching cruelty of which only man can inflict upon himself, and have a couple of hankies available … it is well worth watching.

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Reply #51 from Elemental Forums Top

Quoting BoobzTwo, reply 49
when you have that situation, everyone remembersHumm ... at what point in our / your discussions did Iraq become the aggressor, just asking?

Oh didn't you know? Iraq invaded Kuwait, oh but wait, i saw that in the world media, and because America is so good at controlling world media, it must have been America invading Kuwait so that Bush 2 would have a nice foothold position to apply his it's fake list of excuses to invade Iraq.... so i can see how irrelevant it all is to our conversation (Extreme sarcasm alert hahaha).

The world community did not have the authority to invade another country or they might have. Besides, Bush 1 was not as stupid as his son and realized the likely outcome. I would love to have been a fly on the wall when the two had this discussion. Geeze … let’s just blame the world community for the actions of the USG, don’t work for me.

I will just copy and paste my previous line, i think it works just as well here "Oh didn't you know? Iraq invaded Kuwait, oh but wait, i saw that in the world media, and because America is so good at controlling world media, it must have been America invading Kuwait so that Bush 2 would have a nice foothold position to apply his it's fake list of excuses to invade Iraq.... so i can see how irrelevant it all is to our conversation (Extreme sarcasm alert hahaha)."


Every war ever fought by the American Government was a war of humanitarianism and freedom and democracy. American diplomacy has changed little. Our expansion west was nothing but an ethnic cleansing of the natives. And the Louisiana Purchase neglected to discuss the hundreds of tribes that had lived there for who knows how long. Yep … ethnic cleansing again. I think this was all to educate the savages and force European civility and culture on them. Democracy USG style is never a good thing to be on the receiving end of and is always costly in lives and property. Then of course, we had to teach the Mexicans how costly it was to get between the USG and the west coast. Yep, ethnic cleansing, democratic style. So we stole their land too and kicked them off, just because. If one is inclined to go back in time, well you might be surprised at what the USG has kept out of the school books … but not the archives and reliable records.

I will try and be serious here for a moment and ask, can you honestly tell me any non biased historian worth his salt (from any country you like to choose) would not be able to shoot holes in at least half of what your saying throughout this thread?

Do not tryto come up with all the answers at one time ... you just need to start somewhere and just follow where that leads you. Believe me, nobody can make much sense of all the messes in the world, you and I included.

But you can establish some basic facts, it is not that hard at all, and you can trust mainstream information (but not with 'absolute' trust) for the most part. It is not compulsory to assume everything is wrong nor is it a wise position to take, all it does is sabotage your integrity and your beliefs when it is totally unnecessary. Because i believe you can easily make a legitimate case for the basic principles of what you say about USG activities but without the 'professor nutcase' side of it!

 

*You should have a little faith and trust in your beliefs instead of sabotaging yourself with unnecessary inaccuracies*

 

Edit: oh now i remember the other thread.... the Fareinhight911 thread, which seems to have disappeared.

 

 

Reply #52 from Elemental Forums Top

Quoting myfist0, reply 48
Hehe, Bullies don't start fights with people that will kick there ass.

Also you should look up how many democratically elected leaders were "removed" by the US and installed a dictator that was trade friendly to them.

Start here http://www.tomveatch.com/dictatorships.html and do a little research at the local library.

 

Plenty of mistakes to go round no doubt, i even heard that Saddam was put in power by America!

i saw an obscure documentary years ago where they interviewed American soldiers who were helping the Vietnamese communists resist the Japanese during WW2. These soldiers witnessed some odd things including the fact that the Vietnamese communists were sincere in their desire to be allies with the US after WW2 and were basically back stabbed by the US with South Vietnam! I know BoobzTwo would love to see that documentary but i cannot remember the name of it?  

Siege of Centauri
Reply #53 from JoeUser Forums Top

Quoting Mystikmind, reply 51
Edit: oh now i remember the other thread.... the Fareinhight911 thread, which seems to have disappeared.

Someone complained so it was moved to https://forums.joeuser.com/408351

Quoting Mystikmind, reply 51
"Oh didn't you know? Iraq invaded Kuwait, oh but wait, i saw that in the world media, and because America is so good at controlling world media, it must have been America invading Kuwait so that Bush 2 would have a nice foothold position to apply his it's fake list of excuses to invade Iraq.... so i can see how irrelevant it all is to our conversation (Extreme sarcasm alert hahaha)."

There are six member states of the Cooperation Council for the Arab States of the Gulf (CCASG) or Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC).

 Common name
Official name (English)Official name (Arabic)
Bahrain Bahrain Kingdom of Bahrain Mamlakat al-Baḥrayn
Kuwait Kuwait State of Kuwait Dawlat al-Kuwayt
Oman Oman Sultanate of Oman Salṭanat ʻUmān
Qatar Qatar State of Qatar Dawlat Qaṭar
Saudi Arabia Saudi Arabia Kingdom of Saudi Arabia al-Mamlaka al-ʻArabiyya as-Suʻūdiyya
United Arab Emirates United Arab Emirates State of the United Arab Emirates Dawlat al-Imārāt al-‘Arabīyah al-Muttaḥidah

The big boys club of US backed royal families.


  Show me this on American MSM

 

Saudi and Bahraini police Killed five Protesters, wounded Dozens

people are rising up against the dictatorship and they are being squashed and the US militarty is stationed there with 5th fleet

 

also, what about China and Tibet?

China’s Films Pulled from US Film Festival To Protest Tibet Issue

 

Reply #54 from Elemental Forums Top

Only revolution in the world to be sparked by Google Earth. http://www.businessinsider.com/bahrain-google-earth-2011-3#-1

Citizens live in dirt poverty under the country's constitution which prevents anyone from owning private property, however the elite do (illegally) own private property and it certainly is billionaire property according to Google Earth.  Another problem is Bahrain is really going above and beyond to oppress the Shiite majority by importing Sunnites from abroad to transform the Shiites into a minority.  In other words they are willing to empty out the state coffers to support all the Sunnite immigrants in their nation and offering financial incentives to move in.

Reply #55 from JoeUser Forums Top

Quoting RogueCaptain, reply 54
Only revolution in the world to be sparked by Google Earth. http://www.businessinsider.com/bahrain-google-earth-2011-3#-1
 

That's awesome  :thumbsup:

Reply #56 from JoeUser Forums Top

You just have to love pictures and the technical wonders looking at us all. With all the messes in the Middle East, I had no idea conditions were so deplorable. This is an Island nation ... and the beaches are ... unavailable? :typo:

It is not a good thing to be supported by the West … in the Middle East. I wonder why they promoted Gadhafi’s ouster in Libya … but when one of their own is involved well … the peasants will feel the lash once more with a little help from their friends. :typo:

Reply #57 from Elemental Forums Top

Don't be too surprised that Saudi Arabia has responded to Bahrain's call for military intervention.  When nations are facing considerable violent upheaval they often resort to importing foreign military assets, usually mercenaries.

Reply #58 from JoeUser Forums Top

Quoting RogueCaptain, reply 57
Reply #57  RogueCaptain
I would expect no less I am afraid. How else does a nation survive? It is a morality issue for me, and it is by all means, not restricted here. I believe the indigenous people are more than capable of correcting most of their issues. But western influence in the Middle East will not allow for this. I think there are no good solutions for the people, but an easy one concerning the utilization of the natural resources. Saudi Arabia will not think in this manner but peace has to come or the people will just be persecuted further.