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DG Players: Tier 1, Tier 2, and Those to be Avoided

DG Players: Tier 1, Tier 2, and Those to be Avoided

This thread has been closed by pacov - a new thread has been created here:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/383615

 

Why create this thread?

Simply stated, the ladder is generally not the best depiction of skill, imho.  It GENERALLY tracks who plays the game the most and/or who acts like a jerk by cheating instead of who the most talented players are.  That's not to say that everyone high up in the ladder falls into this category.  So, if I were to put together my own ladder that indicated skill, I wonder how things would shake out.  Obvious hurdles being that many highly skilled individuals don't play each other.  So, this requires either the people that don't play together to play more together (my personal choice) or I have to rely from feedback from other players.

Your part if you want to participate

Who do you guys think are the best players in demigod today?  I understand that its a team game, but individual players do tend to stand out (and I also know that one great player can't guarantee a win if he has weak teammates, etc).  I'm happy to have everyone's feedback.  I'm not looking for people to jump in and flame. Just call out who you think is great or who you'd like to see fight.  Perhaps we'll get games going.  You want to flame and talk crap, your post will probably end up deleted. 

You can nominate anyone you want.  To keep this from being a list of who likes who, several individuals that are generally considered excellent at the game will moderate the list.  If those individuals generally agree, a player can be removed or promoted in the list.

I've decided on 4 categories of players and have provided descriptions of each.  Please recommend players along with the category you feel they fit in.

Tier 1 Demigod Players:

Realistically, its my belief that there are 10-30 players in this game that are tier 1 DG players (the best). Those players shine as individuals, generally with a wide variety of characters and do not depend on a specific team or teammate to do well.  They can play exceptionally in 1v1, 2v2, 3v3, 4v4, and 5v5.  These are players that do not cheat or desync games.  These are the people that you want on your team or you want to play against because you know you will get a good game.  Any player in this list or any other should currently be an active player.  

  • abuggeredhedgie/awuffleablehedgie
  • cowbuttzex
  • kalelsmx
  • GM-Janook
  • gm-magnus333
  • GM-Mcshane
  • GM-Mithrander
  • GM-NinkiCZ
  • GM-Renz0kuken
  • GM-Zen_God
  • Nomilarac
  • Orcun
  • OMG-pacov
  • Paulie Carbone
  • RAWRRRR
  • ThatGuyYoulove/ boxxy_Koush
  • trousersnake

Tier 2 Demigod Players:

These are players that don't quite currently fit into highest level of players, but are good players all the same.  Perhaps they require a specific team or can only do well in specific types of games (1v1, 2v2).  The bottom line is that they aren't quite as polished or versatile as the highest level players. 

  • 2nana
  • Alterschism 
  • Amazing_Hero (oak)
  • Archon_SAAR (regulus!)
  • Atma44x (torch bearer)
  • captnspaulding
  • Celmare
  • Darz4 (qot)
  • DD_Karebears
  • Epiphenomenon (beast)
  • Esuzu
  • eXXcentric
  • Grahf666
  • IamKira
  • _illuminati_
  • Iokke
  • irek1988/never-fuk-wit-a-oak
  • Jaws8you
  • Jona__
  • Jongalt26
  • Ke5trel
  • Kitty007
  • Kollecktir
  • Lethstang (oak + ub)
  • lifekatana
  • LuftBR
  • Maccilia
  • Naur (oak + da + reg)
  • Obiwhan
  • Ogham
  • peterdumptruck
  • prozombie
  • Shred_demon (demon assassin)
  • Soccer-mom
  • spooky_
  • STFNG
  • Teseer (tb)
  • Thundercles
  • xXxXxAchillesTGxXxX
  • Xynth
  • yeahneil
  • Zoahr

Tier 3 Demigod Players:

A third group (or list) would be everyone else. No need to list individuals...

Demigod Players that Should Be Avoided:

These would be specific individuals that clearly (and I mean clearly) cheat.  You don't get on this list unless I (pacov) am VERY convinced that you belong here.

  • AlienWarrior - This player should be avoided.  Stat exploiter confirmed by pacov.  As of 1/5/2010, this player has 34 wins and 0 losses and is ladder ranked 34.  I played a game with him in a 1v1 with him as the host.  After confirming that the player spoke English, I asked him if he would let the stats count if I beat him (there is currently a simple exploit that enables any host in a 1v1 game to make the game disappear if they don't want the stats to be kept - Also note that this player plays almost exclusively 1v1 games).  The player did not respond to my question.  As I began to tear down both sides of the player's base, he used the stat exploit and the game vanished as a result.  The player used this exploit with about 10 minutes left in the game.  Based on his stats and skill level (read: not highly skilled), this player is clearly exploiting the stat system.
  • PrizmSmurf - This player should be avoided.  Stat exploiter and poor sport confirmed by pacov on 4/1/2010.  After losing in a 2v2 matchup, PrizmSmurf said "I hope you die a long slow death of cancer.  I mean it."  Then said, "Bet you are going to enjoy watching me desync."  Then, just before the citadel went down, desynced the game. Based on his stats, he clearly does not desync games on a regular basis, but wishing cancer on someone because they beat you in a game and then committing the one offense in demigod that can get you banned (saying you are desycning then desyncing) is a bit over the top.  I suggest you avoid him. 
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Reply #1576 Top

Quoting OMG-howboutnoooo, reply 1573

Quoting GM-McShane87, reply 1571


Quoting Boxxy_Koush,
reply 1570
Bout time this list is getting revised.

Just a few suggestions...

Tier 1: Orcun

Tier 2: Ninki

 


Agreed



not agreed

Howboutnoooo for tier 3!

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Reply #1577 Top

Quoting Boxxy_Koush, reply 1576



Quoting OMG-howboutnoooo,
reply 1573

Quoting GM-McShane87, reply 1571


Quoting Boxxy_Koush,
reply 1570
Bout time this list is getting revised.

Just a few suggestions...

Tier 1: Orcun

Tier 2: Ninki

 


Agreed



not agreed


Howboutnoooo for tier 3!


lol now your opinion doesnt count if your going to put any one who doesnt agree with you in low tiers

Reply #1578 Top

Quoting Boxxy_Koush, reply 1570
Bout time this list is getting revised.

Just a few suggestions...

Tier 1: Orcun

Tier 2: Ninki

 

This sounds right.

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Reply #1579 Top

DD_Karebears for tier 2 plz  ^_^  (he should have been there ages ago IMHO, wasn't he already suggested?)

Okay, maybe I'm being a douche here, but then again this is what this thread is about.   :dur:

I'm pretty sure a lot of people on vent will agree with me on this one. I don't think putting myself, Zoahr, Karebears, Celmare, Soccer and Grahf as the same level as howboutnoooo is reasonable or even slightly realistic. If you are putting anyone who goes on vent in Tier 2, then move the above names somewhere else.  That or have a Tier 2.5.

 

Reply #1580 Top

kare added.

back to those definitions I was talking about... THEN re-org time.

Reply #1581 Top

Quoting OMG_pacov, reply 1569
The bar for tier 1 will be set VERY high.

Honestly you won't even be able to set it that high because there aren't enough Tier 1 players anymore.

Quoting Boxxy_Koush, reply 1570

Tier 1: Orcun
Tier 2: Ninki 

And everyone else in Tier 3?

Great.

Reply #1582 Top

Quoting OMG_DD-shred_demon, reply 1579
DD_Karebears for tier 2 plz   (he should have been there ages ago IMHO, wasn't he already suggested?)

Okay, maybe I'm being a douche here, but then again this is what this thread is about.  

I'm pretty sure a lot of people on vent will agree with me on this one. I don't think putting myself, Zoahr, Karebears, Celmare, Soccer and Grahf as the same level as howboutnoooo is reasonable or even slightly realistic. If you are putting anyone who goes on vent in Tier 2, then move the above names somewhere else.  That or have a Tier 2.5.

 

I'm with you Shred even though I've never seen you play great or even well, the difference in skill between tier 2 players is quite drastic; you forgot some names though and it's not just howboutnoo who is the problem.  There are several people in the tier 2 list who don't deserve to carry 2Nana-the pride of Korea's teleport scrolls (Jona_),  yet they appear to be the same skill as him according to the rankings.   

Reply #1584 Top

I should play more games with you shane :)  Feel free to browse my games list

Reply #1585 Top

Quoting OMG_DD-shred_demon, reply 1579
DD_Karebears for tier 2 plz   (he should have been there ages ago IMHO, wasn't he already suggested?)

Okay, maybe I'm being a douche here, but then again this is what this thread is about.  

I'm pretty sure a lot of people on vent will agree with me on this one. I don't think putting myself, Zoahr, Karebears, Celmare, Soccer and Grahf as the same level as howboutnoooo is reasonable or even slightly realistic. If you are putting anyone who goes on vent in Tier 2, then move the above names somewhere else.  That or have a Tier 2.5.

 



one your an ass

2 what if tier 2 is a very large ranking what if im some where near the bottom of the tier 2 spectrum and you shredy are between the middle to top but no where near the top of the tier 2 spectrum

Reply #1586 Top

also on a side note i think the only one who should decide anything is pacov because of peoples hate toward each other like mcshane's and koushes hate towards ninki and shredys and my hate for each other we need people who have no feelings toward any one to choose where people are on the list

Reply #1587 Top

Yes we should, I think we've only had 2 and then I saw a replay of your blade of the serpent fire tb which I disagree with so my opinion is based on limited experience. 

Quoting OMG_DD-shred_demon, reply 1584
Feel free to browse my games list

Nice one http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com/game/1405897/player/51161/.  I hope you told Jona he was a noob after this.  And post the replay if you have it please, it would be great to see Jona try to play Oak vs Hemp_boy.

Reply #1588 Top

Quoting OMG-howboutnoooo, reply 1586
also on a side note i think the only one who should decide anything is pacov because of peoples hate toward each other like mcshane's and koushes hate towards ninki and shredys and my hate for each other we need people who have no feelings toward any one to choose where people are on the list

Don't hate you at all dude, I just gave you my opinion.   ^_^   You can't say I haven't had enough experience playing with you. 

I don't know about the Ninki debate, haven't played enough games with Ninki and only seen him play Oculus.

What I was trying to say is if Tier 2 is a very wide ranking (as it apparently is) then we are doing it wrong.  I think that's one of the things Pacov et al. are looking at in reworking this.

Reply #1589 Top

Koush's ponderings...

Tier 1:
Orcun

Tier 1.5:
Boxxy_Koush

Boxxy_Renz

GM-Zen_God

GM-McShane87

Boxxy_Mithrandar

RAWRRRR

Tier 2:

2nana

Pacov

Nomliarac

GM-Janook

cowbuttzex

kalelsmx

abuggeredhedgie/awuffleablehedgie

PeterDumpTruck

Tier 2.5:

Shreddy (Slowly creeping up to tier 2, I like the guy)

Magnus3333333333

DD_Karebears

Soccer-mom

NinkiCZ

The rest of you.

I didn't know where to put Howboutnooo, cause when he usually joins me, he yells "Down with the boxxy menance!" and leaves.

I actually think my list is pretty good.

(This list was not created with biased ponderings in mind)

Reply #1590 Top

shane stands kind of out with that blue lol

Reply #1591 Top

Quoting GM-McShane87, reply 1587
Yes we should, I think we've only had 2 and then I saw a replay of your blade of the serpent fire tb which I disagree with so my opinion is based on limited experience. 




Quoting OMG_DD-shred_demon,
reply 1584
Feel free to browse my games list


Nice one http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com/game/1405897/player/51161/.  I hope you told Jona he was a noob after this.  And post the replay if you have it please, it would be great to see Jona try to play Oak vs Hemp_boy.



um i only played blade tb once i always play a blood fire tb

also shredy as i keep telling you when i play with you i find it hard to play my best when ive played with other people ive done alot better then i ever had with you

Reply #1592 Top

Quoting OMG_NinkiCZ, reply 1583
All the Koreans moved on to StarCraft.



woot no more koreans

NO ENG::

Reply #1593 Top

Pacov, I honestly don't think you really need a write up on the standards each tier looks for. Once we split the tiers up a bit and shuffle people around I think they will define themselves.

The only thing I think tier 1 should be is " THE MAGIC FACTOR" which makes them stand above the tier 1.5 people.

Reply #1595 Top

Quoting Boxxy_Koush, reply 1589

he usually joins me, he yells "Down with the boxxy menance!" and leaves.

This made me lol  ^_^

I've converted to blood fire TB for 2v2s now

Fogive me for my dg build transgressions!!!!!! :pout:

http://www.gamereplays.org/demigod/replays.php?game=51&show=details&id=128355

 

And now for something completely irrelevant.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

JEEEEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWW REEEEEEEEEEEEGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   :dur: (Jew Reg ^_^' )

http://www.gamereplays.org/demigod/replays.php?game=51&show=details&id=128357

 

 

Reply #1596 Top

Hmm not the replay I wanted Shred but I'll give it a look.  

Also none of my comments have been addressed to you howboutnoo so I don't know why you quoted something I said then responded.

Reply #1597 Top

the Jona_ one?  I'll have a look tomorrow, not sure I saved that one but I'll look

Found it:

http://www.gamereplays.org/demigod/replays.php?game=51&show=details&id=128361

Yeah, my playing is alright here I think anyway  :|   I remember screwing up at one point because I pushed too far with Renz on the mana side.  Was being too greedy   ^_^'

We couldn't get ABorn out the hp flag, so we forced him to move by pushing really hard the mana side and from that point on things went more our way.

 

Reply #1598 Top

Quoting Boxxy_Koush, reply 1576
Howboutnoooo for tier 3!

One of these things is not like the other  O:)
One of these things just doesn't belong, 

Can you tell which thing is not like the others 
By the time I finish my song? 

Reply #1599 Top

Quoting OMG_Splitshadow, reply 1598



Quoting Boxxy_Koush,
reply 1576
Howboutnoooo for tier 3!




One of these things is not like the other 
One of these things just doesn't belong, 

Can you tell which thing is not like the others 
By the time I finish my song? 


lol that was a favour mod game so it dont count

Reply #1600 Top

Pacov, I honestly don't think you really need a write up on the standards each tier looks for. Once we split the tiers up a bit and shuffle people around I think they will define themselves.

See, I don't know about that.  At least the way I think, clearly defining categories is a good starting point.  I suppose throwing people into categories does define them to some degree, but then it quickly becomes abstract.