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DG Players: Tier 1, Tier 2, and Those to be Avoided

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DG Players: Tier 1, Tier 2, and Those to be Avoided

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This thread has been closed by pacov - a new thread has been created here:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/383615

 

Why create this thread?

Simply stated, the ladder is generally not the best depiction of skill, imho.  It GENERALLY tracks who plays the game the most and/or who acts like a jerk by cheating instead of who the most talented players are.  That's not to say that everyone high up in the ladder falls into this category.  So, if I were to put together my own ladder that indicated skill, I wonder how things would shake out.  Obvious hurdles being that many highly skilled individuals don't play each other.  So, this requires either the people that don't play together to play more together (my personal choice) or I have to rely from feedback from other players.

Your part if you want to participate

Who do you guys think are the best players in demigod today?  I understand that its a team game, but individual players do tend to stand out (and I also know that one great player can't guarantee a win if he has weak teammates, etc).  I'm happy to have everyone's feedback.  I'm not looking for people to jump in and flame. Just call out who you think is great or who you'd like to see fight.  Perhaps we'll get games going.  You want to flame and talk crap, your post will probably end up deleted. 

You can nominate anyone you want.  To keep this from being a list of who likes who, several individuals that are generally considered excellent at the game will moderate the list.  If those individuals generally agree, a player can be removed or promoted in the list.

I've decided on 4 categories of players and have provided descriptions of each.  Please recommend players along with the category you feel they fit in.

Tier 1 Demigod Players:

Realistically, its my belief that there are 10-30 players in this game that are tier 1 DG players (the best). Those players shine as individuals, generally with a wide variety of characters and do not depend on a specific team or teammate to do well.  They can play exceptionally in 1v1, 2v2, 3v3, 4v4, and 5v5.  These are players that do not cheat or desync games.  These are the people that you want on your team or you want to play against because you know you will get a good game.  Any player in this list or any other should currently be an active player.  

  • abuggeredhedgie/awuffleablehedgie
  • cowbuttzex
  • kalelsmx
  • GM-Janook
  • gm-magnus333
  • GM-Mcshane
  • GM-Mithrander
  • GM-NinkiCZ
  • GM-Renz0kuken
  • GM-Zen_God
  • Nomilarac
  • Orcun
  • OMG-pacov
  • Paulie Carbone
  • RAWRRRR
  • ThatGuyYoulove/ boxxy_Koush
  • trousersnake

Tier 2 Demigod Players:

These are players that don't quite currently fit into highest level of players, but are good players all the same.  Perhaps they require a specific team or can only do well in specific types of games (1v1, 2v2).  The bottom line is that they aren't quite as polished or versatile as the highest level players. 

  • 2nana
  • Alterschism 
  • Amazing_Hero (oak)
  • Archon_SAAR (regulus!)
  • Atma44x (torch bearer)
  • captnspaulding
  • Celmare
  • Darz4 (qot)
  • DD_Karebears
  • Epiphenomenon (beast)
  • Esuzu
  • eXXcentric
  • Grahf666
  • IamKira
  • _illuminati_
  • Iokke
  • irek1988/never-fuk-wit-a-oak
  • Jaws8you
  • Jona__
  • Jongalt26
  • Ke5trel
  • Kitty007
  • Kollecktir
  • Lethstang (oak + ub)
  • lifekatana
  • LuftBR
  • Maccilia
  • Naur (oak + da + reg)
  • Obiwhan
  • Ogham
  • peterdumptruck
  • prozombie
  • Shred_demon (demon assassin)
  • Soccer-mom
  • spooky_
  • STFNG
  • Teseer (tb)
  • Thundercles
  • xXxXxAchillesTGxXxX
  • Xynth
  • yeahneil
  • Zoahr

Tier 3 Demigod Players:

A third group (or list) would be everyone else. No need to list individuals...

Demigod Players that Should Be Avoided:

These would be specific individuals that clearly (and I mean clearly) cheat.  You don't get on this list unless I (pacov) am VERY convinced that you belong here.

  • AlienWarrior - This player should be avoided.  Stat exploiter confirmed by pacov.  As of 1/5/2010, this player has 34 wins and 0 losses and is ladder ranked 34.  I played a game with him in a 1v1 with him as the host.  After confirming that the player spoke English, I asked him if he would let the stats count if I beat him (there is currently a simple exploit that enables any host in a 1v1 game to make the game disappear if they don't want the stats to be kept - Also note that this player plays almost exclusively 1v1 games).  The player did not respond to my question.  As I began to tear down both sides of the player's base, he used the stat exploit and the game vanished as a result.  The player used this exploit with about 10 minutes left in the game.  Based on his stats and skill level (read: not highly skilled), this player is clearly exploiting the stat system.
  • PrizmSmurf - This player should be avoided.  Stat exploiter and poor sport confirmed by pacov on 4/1/2010.  After losing in a 2v2 matchup, PrizmSmurf said "I hope you die a long slow death of cancer.  I mean it."  Then said, "Bet you are going to enjoy watching me desync."  Then, just before the citadel went down, desynced the game. Based on his stats, he clearly does not desync games on a regular basis, but wishing cancer on someone because they beat you in a game and then committing the one offense in demigod that can get you banned (saying you are desycning then desyncing) is a bit over the top.  I suggest you avoid him. 
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Reply #1551 from Demigod Forums Top

Just because I added Paulie Carbone to tier 1 does not invalidate this perfectly accurate, well balanced list.

Also, yes.  probably. 

Reply #1552 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting OMG_pacov, reply 1551
Just because I added Paulie Carbone to tier 1 does not invalidate this perfectly accurate, well balanced list.

Also, yes.  probably. 

Good, now how should we split the tiers?

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Reply #1554 from Demigod Forums Top

I just re-read some of the main post and this is said in the description of Tier 2 players:

The bottom line is that they aren't quite as polished or versatile as the highest level players.

Then I laugh. For real.

 

Reply #1555 from Demigod Forums Top

well... if i was really going to do something, i'd move all of tier 1 to tier 1.5, then invite discussion.

instead, i will add zen_god to tier 1 because he won the tourney. 

Reply #1557 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting OMG_NinkiCZ, reply 1556
^And my mission is complete.

HUTTAH.

watch it or i move you to tier 1.5 first.

edit - it was paulie's suggestion

Reply #1558 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting OMG_pacov, reply 1555
well... if i was really going to do something, i'd move all of tier 1 to tier 1.5, then invite discussion.

instead, i will add zen_god to tier 1 because he won the tourney. 

tier 1

1.5

2

3

sound good?

leave the people in tier 2 in tier 2 to start with dicussion on up or down with them.

Bump everyone in tier 1 to tier 1.5, discuss up or down from there.

Reply #1559 from Demigod Forums Top

what about the addition of new people to tier 2 there are people ive played with who should be on there

Reply #1560 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting OMG-howboutnoooo, reply 1559
what about the addition of new people to tier 2 there are people ive played with who should be on there

Then you should suggest them

Reply #1561 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting OMG_BlackHatHedgehog, reply 1560



Quoting OMG-howboutnoooo,
reply 1559
what about the addition of new people to tier 2 there are people ive played with who should be on there


Then you should suggest them


never :ninja:

Reply #1563 from Demigod Forums Top

No, GM-Zen_God is in T2, and OMG_Zen_God is in T1  O:)

Reply #1565 from Demigod Forums Top

Mith, I truly enjoy your teenage angst. Reminds me of my younger days.

Reply #1568 from Demigod Forums Top

I am tier 4.  This category should be stipulated with, 'Can play with very good, versatile players, and still fuck everything up royally.'

Reply #1569 from Stardock Forums Top

Ok - time to define the tier ratings.  Perhaps some of my old definitions were crap.  Let's redefine them now, but the definitions should be as specific as possible.  For now, please chime in on the tier 1 definition. 

I propose using the tier system previously dicussed:

tier 1 - These are the best of the best players.  Having any of these players on your team should increase your chance of winning.  They shine as individuals, generally with a wide variety of characters and do not depend on a specific team or teammate to do well.  They can play exceptionally in 1v1, 2v2, 3v3, 4v4, and 5v5.  These are players that do not cheat or desync games.  These are the people that you want on your team or you want to play against because you know you will get a good game.  

1.5

2

3

I really don't see us having more than 6-7 tier 1 players, all said and done.  The bar for tier 1 will be set VERY high.

Reply #1570 from Demigod Forums Top

Bout time this list is getting revised.

Just a few suggestions...

Tier 1: Orcun

Tier 2: Ninki

 

Reply #1571 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting Boxxy_Koush, reply 1570
Bout time this list is getting revised.

Just a few suggestions...

Tier 1: Orcun

Tier 2: Ninki

 

Agreed

Reply #1572 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting OMG_Splitshadow, reply 1563
No, GM-Zen_God is in T2, and OMG_Zen_God is in T1 

l

Like Mith said, who the **** is OMG_Zen_God?

Reply #1573 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting GM-McShane87, reply 1571



Quoting Boxxy_Koush,
reply 1570
Bout time this list is getting revised.

Just a few suggestions...

Tier 1: Orcun

Tier 2: Ninki

 


Agreed



not agreed

Reply #1574 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting OMG_pacov, reply 1569

The bar for tier 1 will be set VERY high.

As high as a kite!!!  Teseer for tier 1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :dur:

*Grabs bong*

me tooooooooo!!!!!!!  \o/  

Edit: can you remove Demon Assassin from beside my name?  Barely play the rat these days so looks kind of daft  :|   If you really need to put a dg over there stick oak/ere/rook/reg/tb.

Reply #1575 from Demigod Forums Top

To make it more interesting. What about scheduling games to determine tiers (when in doubt) . So for instance, if someone wants to prove himself against the community's opinion he or she can contact pacov, who will then arrange a "tier match". Those being 1on1s 2on2s or 3on3s.

The reason for this is, that most good players will take such games more serious and try and do their best. In contrast, in so called PUG games highly skilled players will more often screw around and not show their full potential. As a result people cannot argue with replays where they somehow beat a higher ranked player in a pug game, when it did not mean anything at the time for the higher ranked player.

In the tournament, you could see for the first time people playing serious for sure, since money and honor was on the line. Tier matches would resemble this kind of scenario and give a more realistic tier system result.