Thrawn's thoughts...

Little late for a "thought" topic tho.

Grand Admiral Thrawn of the Imperial Army here, and so are my thought's on the beta. Some thoughts are what to change, some are what I thought the game was going to be,and some are gameplay issues (<--the only good thing for those of you working on the game.)




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Windows XP
512 MB RAM
Nvidia GeForce FX 5200
Intel Pentium 4 CPU 2.40GHz
(not quite sure, but I think this is the sound card) SoundMAX Intergrated Digital Audio.
And anything else (important) that I forgot.
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Originally, I thought that SINS wouldn't have individual planets but star systems (with five to ten planets orbiting around them). There you go. Thats what I originally thought SINS would be like.

Thoughts on what to change/gameplay issues:
Stars need to move (like flares and solar activiy!). They look the same 24/7, at least on medium graphic.
Add weather. It'd just be a nice touch.
Terraforming so you could get more population and more TAXES!
ARG! The AI ask me to build trade ports when (1) they don't have any and (2) WHEN I DO HAVE ONE OR TWO!!!!!
Make the tutuorial explain group phase jumping, culture (still don't know the point of culture), trading and upkeep. What are marauders?
More advanced ranks (like Recruit, Lt. Major, Captain, Commodore, and Admiral. There was already a subject about this).
Maybe add a fleet building thing (like another menu that shows all your ships and you just drag them into a fleet. You can also select a flagship for that fleet, but the highest ranking ship, in experience or rank like I explained above, should automaticly be the flagship). That way you can just tell whole fleets where to go and you don't need to pick out indiviual ships. Plus that screen could show you an indepth look at where all your ships are (unlike the simple thingy on the side, but simple is cool too )
I NEED to be able to tax the people as much as I want! This could cause rebellions or something.
Guns (at least on the scout frigates) sound odd. You may want to get a new sound effect.
You may want to make the AI realize that I was insystem first, an that I should colonize that planet, not them. And you could make the colonize ability not use up antimatter. (this has happened twice, my colony frigate gets insystem after theirs and they colonize it).
Reasearching the Heavy frigate costs TOO much money. Maybe you could put it lower on the tech tree.
Show repair costs and a message should pop up asking to repair it or scuttle it. Ships should only be repaired at a repair facility (dock with it) and they should be inactive while repairing. It's annoying when ships are healing in a battle zone or foreign planet.
Nukes (the 'shroom cloud) are huge and unrealistic. If they are to stay that big than radiation should make the planet uninhabitalbe for awhile.
Population/ship crews should be able to evacutate!
Bomber/fighters seem to be left behind when the carrier jumps (I usually tell the carrier to dock everything but sometimes I forget!)


Random question: what are planet elevators? Is it talking about something like the space elevator in Red Mars (good book by the way)?
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Stars need to move (like flares and solar activiy!). They look the same 24/7, at least on medium graphic.


There should be a rippling effect on them, if you look closely (if it works on a GF5 that is).

Terraforming so you could get more population and more TAXES!


You can build infrastructure level-ups, and research techs for Terran, Desert, and Arctic planets to increase their population caps.
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You can build infrastructure level-ups, and research techs for Terran, Desert, and Arctic planets to increase their population caps.



MORE TAXES!
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More population = More people to tax = more money
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Grand Admiral Thrawn of the Imperial Army here


Wouldnt it be the Imperial Navy, dont mess up my divisions now.
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Terraforming so you could get more population and more TAXES!


You can build infrastructure level-ups, and research techs for Terran, Desert, and Arctic planets to increase their population caps.


We all know that's not the same :O You forget who your core audiance is, the core-nerds need to be able to turn a spec of dust floating in space into a supergigantic ringworld.
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LOL, ringworlds... really, everyone knows that the artificial DOOM planet is better in concept and form. how are you going to keep atmosphere on a ringworld. AND WHO IS FIGHTING OVER A STUPID GULCH IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE WITH NO EXITS!

Oh and by the way, im gonna sing the doom song now... doom-dy doom-dy dooom, ad infinitum.
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Grand Admiral Thrawn of the Imperial Army here


Wouldnt it be the Imperial Navy, dont mess up my divisions now.


Grand Admiral = Incharge of both. Maybe thats why you aren't an admiral. Just joshing yah...sir.

Hey! I outrank Peitt! YEAH BABY!
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Pettit?
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Grand Admiral = Incharge of both. Maybe thats why you aren't an admiral. Just joshing yah...sir.


You better be.... *evil glare*
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That coming from the only grand admiral who managed to screw up, despite having a huge load of sparti cloning vats, 180-something FREE dreadnoughts, his own jedi master, a lot of cloaking devises (which the fool strapped to asteroids). While controlling half of the galaxy.

How did this man fall? He allowed his own bodyguard to stab him in the back.

Grand admiral? bantha fodder is more like it.
Piett was twice the man Thrawn is.

ps. How does one bury a mile long starship underneath the most inhabited world in the universe without any noticing?
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He got stabbed in the chest!!!!
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Piett was twice the man Thrawn is.


Yet they both failed.

Hard to find good service these days.
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Grand Admiral Thrawn of the Imperial Army here


Wouldnt it be the Imperial Navy, dont mess up my divisions now.



japans army had all of the naval ships that their navy had
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Grand Admiral Thrawn of the Imperial Army here


Wouldnt it be the Imperial Navy, dont mess up my divisions now.



japans army had all of the naval ships that their navy had


Thats incorrect. The Imperial Japanese Army and the Imperial Japanese Navy were two seperate entities, from the empire of Japans inception into the modern world in the late 1800s, through to its forced disarmament in 1945.

The IJN and the IJA both had thier own "airforce" not unlike the US Army Air Corp that was a division of the US army during world war two before it was a seperate force. They shared aircraft as well as some commanding officers between the two branches, but the IJN was granted the most experianced pilots and the newest planes.

The IJN also had control of the Japanese Marines...

The IJA operated mostly in the Burma/China theatre, and agianst Russia in the '36-'38 war for Manchuria...while the IJN was dutied with the eastern front agianst the british and american forces in the pacific.

The IJA never had any ships under its direct command. If anything, you would say the army was subserviant to the navy. Both in command structure, and culturally.

This is why you saw the majority of the atrocities in world war two and the russo-china campaign commited by the army...because those were the poor conscripts that were generally thought of as 2nd class citizens....whereas the IJN was a privelaged position for a warrior.

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Yea...

thats all cool.

But, um... howd this even come up?
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The IJA never had any ships under its direct command. If anything, you would say the army was subserviant to the navy. Both in command structure, and culturally.

This is why you saw the majority of the atrocities in world war two and the russo-china campaign commited by the army...because those were the poor conscripts that were generally thought of as 2nd class citizens....whereas the IJN was a privelaged position for a warrior.



so your saying that the history channel doesn't know what is talking about when it said that the j army had carriers, battleships, and all of the other ships that the jnavy had


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No idea....just showing off meh grognard muscules for my first post...

Other than that I generally agree with the thread starter. Tax rates would be nice.

The one thing I want the most is a way to set the darned game speed. Im used to Space Empires IV+V, Galactiv Civ, Imperium, Masters of Orion...that is to say im used to turn based...im an old dude and my reaction time isnt so great. Slowing the game down so I have time to think and organize would be nice for my single player games...and turning the speed up to get the multiplayer losses over with faster would be nice too =D
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The IJA never had any ships under its direct command. If anything, you would say the army was subserviant to the navy. Both in command structure, and culturally.

This is why you saw the majority of the atrocities in world war two and the russo-china campaign commited by the army...because those were the poor conscripts that were generally thought of as 2nd class citizens....whereas the IJN was a privelaged position for a warrior.



so your saying that the history channel doesn't know what is talking about when it said that the j army had carriers, battleships, and all of the other ships that the jnavy had


and the jarmy had the first helo carrier of course the craft was an autogyro


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so your saying that the history channel doesn't know what is talking about





Yes thats exactly what im saying. The Hitler channel is probally the worst place to get ultra-accurate historical information.

Theyre fine for generalizations...but if you want to know exact details, youre better off going to a real physical library.

Take for example the History Channels "hard on" for saying things like, the P51 Mustang won the air war, or that the US won world war two...when infact the P51B was a crappy airframe, and the P51D was out well after the Razorback P47s and the Spitfire-Mark16s had cleared the air of most all of the experianced german pilots. By the time the P51 was over germany in great numbers, Galland was upping his 2 year out of date Bf-109G agianst 50 to 1 odds...

And the soviets won ww2

The history channel is ENTERTAINMENT.

It _IS_ a cable channel you know...you expect the library at alexandria?

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and the jarmy had the first helo carrier of course the craft was an autogyro





"The German Focke-Wulf FW 61 was the first viable helicopter first flying in 1936. The FW-61 broke all of the helicopter world records in 1937. Nazi Germany used helicopters in small numbers during World War II. Models such as the Flettner FL 282 Kolibri were used in the Mediterranean Sea, while the Focke-Achgelis Fa 223 Drache was used in Europe."

That would be the 'chopper youre thinking of, it was sold to Japan...



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the P51 Mustang won the air war



was the only fighter to be able to fly to germany from england and back with fuel tanks

was the only piston fighter to be able to shoot down german jets

and of course that was after several modifactions to the aircraft

i didn't get these facts from the history channel i got them from the history book

The German Focke-Wulf FW 61 was the first viable helicopter first flying in 1936. The FW-61 broke all of the helicopter world records in 1937. Nazi Germany used helicopters in small numbers during World War II. Models such as the Flettner FL 282 Kolibri were used in the Mediterranean Sea, while the Focke-Achgelis Fa 223 Drache was used in Europe



if it was the first heliocopter then of course it broke all records since it was the only flying

and i never said that the japs designed the autogyro i said they had the first carrier for them

The Hitler channel is probally the worst place to get ultra-accurate historical information.



why is it that you liberals today don't like something or someone you bring up hitler

when if hitler was alive today you would be backing everything he did just as you back sadam and ben laden

oh and i am not going to comment on this again



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I hate what star wars has become, except for the cool stuff in between episode 3 and 4. And the old republic. But Admiral Palleon is more then Thrawn, Piett, and a bag of chips. He's out lived the emperor. And no I am not a Star Wars nerd, just a good friend of mine is... oh and I read.

Long live the TEC! (Added for relevance to the fourm)

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1.was the only fighter to be able to fly to germany from england and back with fuel tanks

Nope, P47s, Yak9s (flying under polish flags, dislocated, flying from englad), Spitfires, hell there was a whole host of aircraft that could. Dehavilland Mosquito Fighter Bombers conducted raids and air superiority missions over germany as early as '42...the P51D that everyone is always talking about didnt even see service over germany until late '44..well after the german airforce had already been "defeated"

Its just an iconic aircraft, so people are drawn to it...most of the old wives tales about it are just that...unfortunately, the "history" channel continues to spin the wheels...

2.was the only piston fighter to be able to shoot down german jets

Yak9s, Lagg-5s and 7s, Spitfires, B17 bombers all claimed kills on Me262s...the majority of kills were claimed by P51s..and thats because by that time in the war, we had air superiority over germany, and the P51 was becomming the most mass produced plane we fielded, so there were more P51s around than any other aircraft when it came to intercept and combat air patrols...even then, the only time the P51 "could shoot down an Me262" was when it was zooming by 200mph faster than a P51, or when the Me262 was landing or taking off...

Since most of germanys air force was destroyed by this point, the me262 rarely had cover when it was taking off or landing, and the much needed Bf109s and Fw190s were needed else where...sometimes the old Bf110s or even Ju87 stukas would fly cover to to appear like there was some slight amount of real cover for the vulnerable me262s..

Infact the Ta152 was the fastest prop plane of the war...Kurt Tank (who invented the butcherbird, the folkewulf 190) was brilliant and achieved speeds that are still hard to match today...

The La7n, a russian fighter, was the 2nd fastest of the war, and presented the most probable pairup agianst the p51 in a post war enviroment with the US and Soviet Union squaring off...and frankly, the cannon armed Lavotchkin would have torn the .50 cal armed P51 to pieces...

3. why is it that you liberals today don't like something or someone you bring up hitler

Im a conservative thank you.

And if im the first person youve heard call the History channel the Hitler channel, id be surprised...I call it that because 90% of the shows on there are about Hitler or world war two in general...theres rarely something on about anything else.
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The history channel is boring, now Discovery. Some of the best shows on TV.
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The history channel is boring, now Discovery. Some of the best shows on TV.



The history channel is boring, now Discovery. Some of the best shows on TV.



Totally....cept for Law and Order...Im addicted to that show...if Discovery had Law and Order, or like, a "real" 'law and order' id never need another channel...

I heard theyre picking up The First 48 from A&E which is one of my favourite shows...that and Mythbusters...those guys crack me up.