Sean Conners aka SConn1 Sean Conners aka SConn1

Sometimes, You Step Back And Forget Politics.

Sometimes, You Step Back And Forget Politics.

both on JU and at large, some show the ability to be human before being a party pundit...

People write a lot of things here on JoeUser. Some of theings are profound, some are stupid. Some of them deal with our daily lives, some of them are complete fiction and fantasy. Many of the articles on here, and probably the most popular categories beyond the ones concerning either skinning or galactic civillizations are the ones concerning current events, namely, politics.

At least they appear to be to me. But that is probably because I spend the bulk of my time either writing or responding to something having to do with politics on here. I also spend a good deal of my "offline" time (which , by far , is most of my time) studying, discussing or being involved with political matters. So I submit, that maybe this is "just me" or just my perspective, but recently, some things have happened that put my faith back into the political system we live in.

That is, people's abilities to step out of that world and just be human for awhile. To put aside the rhetoric and viewpoints for a bit to concentrate on something more important, us as people. Not a screen name or representative of anything, just people. And when this happens, I like to think that we are reconnected with a fact that eludes us in all those politicl clashes. The fact that we are all really more alike than those political disputes would suggest as they divide us into opposing camps.

The most significant of that rekindling of actual humanity was when the popular, very conservative despite his name, moderateman was hospitalized and near death.

As anyone who has been on JU longer than 6 months can attest to, even tho we occasionally find some common ground outside of politics, MM and I don't exactly see eye to eye when it comes to the Bush administration. Some of those disagreements have escalated into full blown "blog wars" that lasted for extended periods of time. We blacklisted each other for awhile.

But when his wife, Colleen, announced hastily one morning that her beloved was unconcious in the hospital I saw the JU community stand up and drop all political biases to just support him. For weeks, people from all walks sent messages of support, hope and prayer. There was nothing snide, nothing underhanded and nothing beyond genuine goodwill and the hope that MM would be back with us as soon as humanly possible.

It was inspiring. And it reminded me that people don't need to agree on how or when we should go to war to come together and support a man that by most accounts, is a pretty good guy. No one from "the other side of the fence" even peeped about anything bad about him. No one used his offline status as an excuse to attack him without resistance. Everything writen to him or about him was nothing but supportive in one way or another.

Last week, Elizabeth Edwards and her husband John announced that her cancer, which she beat once, had returned. I expected that some would use it as a launch pad to attack John and his candidacy, but the right and other candidates were silent when they weren't supportive. I realize that it possible for some yahoo to have said something in this (and the next example i will give) example that was insulting to either edwards or his wife, ut fortunately, if that happened, it never boiled to anyone's surface.

Then, earlier this week, white house spokesman Tony Snow was found to have a returned and spreading cancer in his colon and liver. And where the opponents of Edwards had been extremely kind and "apolitical" with her situation, I did wonder if the White House opponents would be the same.

And they were. From the left came announcements of support and well wishes. People who had been at Snow's throat over Gonzalezgate just the day or 2 before, were saying nice things about him and hoping for his speedy recovery. Liberal pundits spoke of Snow's likability as a man, his "gentlemanly" ways at all times and his general decency as a person.

And maybe it's just me, but those things remind me and rekindle my faith that we are much more alike than different. Not everyone is capable of seperating issues and dealing with the people who support one side or another on any 1 issue on different levels. Indeed, I was reminded of that when trying to seek some common ground on parenting with Texas Wahine. turns out, when I tried to offer an olive branch and show where we could "work together" and were on the same side, I was insulted, attacked and threatened after it became clear that I and others had a very strong leg to stand on in our view and Tex even admitted as such. It was clear at that moment that Tex's mind couldn't let her find any commonality with someone who didn't fall in lock step with her political views. What a shame.

At those times now, I 'll just have to think of Moderateman, Elizabeth Edwards and Tony Snow.
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Reply #26 Top
It's 'piece' you semi-literate troglodyte


actually, while it's debatable, either can be used and arguments have been made on both sides...this from a recent online debate...

At the time of writing, this poll has revealed that 53.8% of repondents need some lessons in grammar, and more relevantly literary history.

"Said my peace.", in common usage means to have stated something that leaves your mind and thoughts at ease with the relevant subject. You have said what you needed to say and now you are at peace...hence the link to another common phrase "Peace of mind." - being at rest with one's thoughts.

Now, I'm sure everyone is familiar with the phrase "Give you a piece of my mind.", not to be confused with "Giving you peace of mind." The act of giving another a "piece of your mind" generally means that you are expressing a difficult or harsh thought about a subject to another.

Though similar in sound, giving another person a "piece of your mind" is quite the opposite of giving another "peace of mind". In fact, it is most often though giving another a "piece of your mind" that one finds "peace of mind" for themselves, whilst making the recipient of the "piece of mind" uncomfortable or upset.

The implication of "saying your piece" however, does not figure in the same manner that "saying your peace" given the structure of Xylox's post. "I've said my piece." can in fact be found in slang usage, however the mechanics of the phrase in relation to "piece of mind" do not in fact translate properly in the context in which it is usually placed in a comment.

More often then not, the proper phrase "I've said my peace." conveys what the speaker is actually trying to convey. Thus "I've said my piece." is found in slang usage due a lack of understanding of "piece of mind" vs. "peace of mind" in terms of what the writer and saying of "I've said my peace." actually meant when they said it.

Conclusive evidence as to the validity of "I've said my peace." over "I've said my piece." can be found in actual literature: from song lyrics (the Moody Blues, Bob Dylan and Nick Cave use it frequently) to literature (most recently I ran across the phrase in a Dostoyevsky book). I have yet to find "piece of mind" in a work of literature - although I do not doubt that it exists.
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Reply #28 Top
Perhaps it's because you use Role-Playing Game sites as your authority on grammar?


and i successfully predicted you would take all that seriously. you are simply s lil narcisist who doesn't know when to shut up.

You often rail about being misunderstood--but I can't imagine why...


the only people i cared about "understanding" my position and the words i chose to describe it were tex and gideon. you or anyone else really never figured into the equation as far as i'm concerned. you are just a lil pest who keeps proving my points over and over again without even realizing it, and without much effort from this end.

and if there is anyone here with a lack of self control, maturity or sense of decency, it is clearly you. and you have shown just how overblown your lil napoleanic complex is. just go and keep recruiting cronies if it makes ya feel better. i'll be more than happy to keep the show goin if that is your wish as much as my time permits, but aren't you the one who was preaching about people insisting to go where they are clearly not wanted?

have a nice day:)