Suggestions for JU Forums?

The new forums went up the other week, and the reaction has been decidedly mixed, with some very vocal opponents to the new format.

The goal with the forum upgrade was to have a consistent forum system across all the Stardock sites that was:
1. Faster (the old system was very slow under load)
2. More Stable (Fewer server application errors are a good thing!)
3. More closely resembled the "standard" sort of forum layout you see elsewhere on the 'net, making it easier for new people to get involved in the community.

The change was drastic, so I understand issues with readjustment. For some the readjustment has been harder than for others. So, for those of you who definitely do not like the new system, what suggestions would you have for improvement? Please keep in mind that saying "Bring the old forums back!" doesn't help. We're looking for suggestions that will improve the new forum system further.

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"So, for those of you who definitely do not like the new system, what suggestions would you have for improvement?"

I think the best improvement possible would be to give me my hard earned 11000 points!!

 

I am taking brads advice and just learn the new system, it is faster.

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LOL, see my latest response to your blog   
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We also have http://oldforums.joeuser.com

Also note that the arrow seperators in the forum are clickable:

Home -> Blogging -> YOu can click on those arrows to quickly navigate.

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Also note that the arrow seperators in the forum are clickable:

Home -> Blogging -> YOu can click on those arrows to quickly navigate.


Learning this little tidbit does make things a bit easier, but I do miss the at a glance view.
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We also have http://oldforums.joeuser.com


This makes me very happy.
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The oldforums site (once the word gets out) will silence a lot of the old regulars who'd rather not change, but then you're supporting two forum types... it's still more constructive to try to improve your new format to the point where most of their specific complaints are addressed.

I shot over to the oldforums version and the comfort of familiarity was immediate. I was unable to post a comment on a thread that I found, however.

As for what I liked about the older version, you could see multiple articles (and their authors) under each general category. This still was never optimal in the most used categories (and rarely mattered in the underused ones), but it was good to see if anyone worth reading (in my opinion) had written anything lately (what I use the Recent Articles sidebar for) or had been responded to (what I would use the old forums for).

Honestly, for me, if I had the ability to set up a "favorite bloggers" page that showed all the recent articles by just those authors, toggling order by publication or last posted to in the forums, that would alleviate the majority of my want for checking the forums anyway. However, this doesn't address the people who want to go into the forums just to see the most recently commented on articles regardless of author.

Good luck in pleasing all of the people all of the time!
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Put Zoomba in Charge!  He will kick arse and take names!  Even if he is a liberal!
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Maybe make the forums look less "busy" if that makes any sense...I found myself so overwhelmed with all the various categories and sections.

I do like that the old forums are available...but I do want to give this layout a chance.
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Somehow the subcategories don't really work for JoeUser the way they worked for Wincustomize. I've never really wished I could keep all the 'war on terror' posts out of my 'us domestic' posts in the politics section. Browsing JU isn't really an act of targeting specific information as much as it is browsing for new insights in the same way one would read a newspaper.

I think regulars will either bookmark the g=recent page or produce a lot of needless click-through. At the very least some subcategories need to be tuned. Right now 'Environment" in "Politics" hasn't seen a post since the 24th of August, so that slot is wasted for the frequent visitors.

Also, right now there is only one category, "General" showing for Current Events. Headings with only one subindex don't really need subindexes, do they? Granted, I can't think of many subcategories for Current Events that aren't duplicated elsewhere, thus my questioning the real need for subcategories at all.

If subcategories aren't negotiable, I would absorb 'Politics' into Current events. I think 'war on terror' and 'environment' for instance could sit alongside 'politics' at the same level beneath the current events section. I would look at all the sections that way, and see if maybe less-used topics couldn't be merged or divided between other sections. Anything that isn't bringing something new to the top is wasted space.

In terms of page real estate I wish that the articles got as much impact as the headings. People don't come here to read the category titles, but that is what the focus seems to be on. I think I would de-emphasize the category titles and give more attention to the article title. Perhaps maybe like a table of contents style, like: "This is the name of the article. (whitespace) _b_in Politics_/b_ (date).

I don't mean to be cranky about it, I just think sometimes what is good for one site doesn't really meet the needs of another. JU isn't really informational the way a lot of the content on wincustomize is. Therefore wincustomize benefits from a strongly-categorized format that gets specific information in front of the person with ease. JU, at least from my perspective, is for people who are coming here to find stuff they WOULDN'T normally be looking for.

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Truth be told, when the "old" forums came out, I wasn't crazy about them. But as I became accustomed to them, I didn't mind so much. The main strength of the new forums is that their format is more similar to the more popular message board site, so it's a more familiar indexing system to those new to JU. But I like the way the old format showed four or five recent articles under each category.
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P.S. I realize also on a database driven site, which shares its DB with another site, the suggestions above could be hell to implement, and often a lot more work than coming up with a few new queries. I'm looking at it simply from a usability perspective, but I also understand 100% that form sometimes has to follow the shape of the underlying function.
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My Watch List :-
List my most recent articles, I would prefer to use this entirely for articles I choose to watch, so I can have quick reference to them. instead what is happening, everytime I write and post one of my watch list items is bumped off the list.

Please keep the list just to what we choose to watch and we remove as we wnat to remove etc.

My Blog Pages:-

I cannot find a way to get to my blog pages without having to click create blog, this then takes me to the sign up page which I then have to find my own blog.

Please have a button to click on to take me straight to my blog, (it may already be there and I just do not know where it is, if this is the case please point me in the right direction)


Favorites:-
Honestly, for me, if I had the ability to set up a "favorite bloggers" page that showed all the recent articles by just those authors, toggling order by publication or last posted to in the forums, that would alleviate the majority of my want for checking the forums anyway.


ditto psuedo


writing and editing:-

A spell check would not be a bad addition to make.
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Font Coloring:-

I wrote this above suggestions, then went and hi-lited each sub heading and picked red from the font colours, so that each sub heading will stand out in red.

It did not work. Is the problem with me or the font colour box thingmajiggy?
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But I like the way the old format showed four or five recent articles under each category.


Ditto what Gid says
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My Posts:-

Please make it so..... when you open my posts, a post thathas a new comment on is hilited in bold or has a tick in the box so it stands out and brings itself to your attention.

thanks
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Editing :-

Sometimes you can go in and edit a reply and other times you are denied access, can we fix this, so you can go in and edit it?

For example I wanted to go back and type in thank you on each of the posts I have made on this thread, I was not allowed to - access denied.

Thank you for all the above

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You aren't allowed to edit once someone has posted after you. That keeps people from going back and editing what they've said in a discussion.
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You aren't allowed to edit once someone has posted after you. That keeps people from going back and editing what they've said in a discussion.


I think that is a bug, not a feature. After all, this is Stardock, not Microsoft.
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No, if I recall on the old forums didn't the edit option disappear once someone posted after you? I think the bug is the edit link appearing. I could be wrong, but I am pretty sure. Most forums would prefer people not be able to revise their arguments after they've made them, I think.
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Im shiny new and so the current format is "THE" format for me. However as a software professional it does surprise that so many of those that appear on the top 10 etc of your site seem so surprised by the "new" format.

Was there no consultation with keystakeholders such as "users" throughout the redevelopment process?
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On the recent articles list I'd like to see who wrote the article. There are some people I don't read and others I read everything they write. It'd be nice to be able to tell who wrote what from that recent list. Maybe it could go after the article title, or below it?

No, if I recall on the old forums didn't the edit option disappear once someone posted after you? I think the bug is the edit link appearing. I could be wrong, but I am pretty sure. Most forums would prefer people not be able to revise their arguments after they've made them, I think.


You're right - the old forums didn't let you edit after someone has posted. This new one though sometimes doesn't let you edit at all. I don't know what the problem is - it seems too intermittent to pin down.

At the moment the 'regular' forum page is more or less useless to me because I'm too lazy to click on each seperate category just to get more than the absolute latest topic. It'd be nice to get a couple of recent topics after every major category (like little whip and Baker I don't really care about the subcategories).
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Since I can't "have it my way" and go back to what we had.....

I'll say I'd LOVE to see a "search" feature where you could access an old article by anyone using a key word.

I'd ask for those dang subcatagoies to "hide" again, what a distraction they are!

How about a clickable "rolodex" for pictures, a scrapbook if you will or photo book?

Thanks
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I agree about the categories, and, in my perfect world, would love to have blogging near the top of titles. I understand about the Art section not being very popular, so would then prefer it to be right at the absolute bottom of the list for easy navigation.

But really, I think it's much faster and neater looking.
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Just to say something positive - I really like the speed. The new forums are a lot faster to load and browse and are definitely a step up. They just need a little fine-tuning.
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I've put in a request to allow users the ability to switch between sub-categories or rcent posts per category (like the old system).