Still around.

I think they spawn about as often as horses do. Goofy huh?

Ha.  They do seem awful rare.  Usually, I play kingdom to find wargs and play empire to find horses.

Lost libraries are really rare for me, but I see them every once in awhile.

Heh.  In one tile, wargs are hunting horses.  If you want wargs, corral the horses so they're easy to catch and feed to the wargs.  If you want horses, kill off the wargs.  That sets the resource generated by that tile for the rest of the game.

Or just have a 'breeding ground' tile that can become either at any point in the game if you can build the structure.

Or make it possible for both Empire and Kingdom to use both, but it takes extra reseach to be able to use the other type of mount.

Lost libraries?  very lost.  I rarely find them.  Lost horses, I only find them playing an empire (and can't use them).  Lost wargs - see entry on lost horses.  ^^ agree with all the above.  I think the idea of allowing BOTH empires and Kingdoms to utilize both horse and warg tiles in some manner has great merit.

I think the intention of the designers was to use the horse warg division to enhance the  Kingdom/empire divide, then the current arrangement does that in a very limited manner.  its still merely (mostly) cosmetic.  Allow both sides to 'domesticate' them both, when the sov has researched it.  In short, remove the kingdom / empire restrictions for both horses and wargs.

Now, make horses and wargs VERY different, not just in appearance, but in actual play.  May I suggest the following:

Wargs much larger that horses:  think elephant.  (Yes, I know, wargs are based on MANY fantasy games where they are a kind of wolf on steroids.)   But, hey, Elemental is not your father's fantasy game.  Its OURs, and its different.

Wargs are larger than horses. A domesticated horse, trained to work with a soldier, can be controlled by ONE soldier.  Wargs, however, need a group of three soldiers to train and create the mounted warg unit.  Wargs are way bigger, higher melee, greater HPs, etc. but each warg requires 3 men, err... humans err.... sentients to handle one warg.  A warg unit, trained, is actually one warg, and three ... sentients.

other trade-off:  Give wargs the 'feature' that, even after domesticated, and when mounted, and in combat, one (or more) may freak out, go bazerk, and just attack anyone ('friend or foe' thats nearby.  Lets say that every turn there is a possibility that the riders reassert control.  But the possibility exists that all three riders are killed and the now 'lonely' warg just gallops for home (original warg tile).

Riding a warg gives you a height advantage.  And one of those 'eye' icons so the unit can sight further.

Rare -no my friend - Elementum is Rare - I don't recall the last time I've even had any, horses would be second rarest and Libraries a close 3rd

rare sure - but hardly every seen- sheesh - it should be call Invisibilism

Now i know where all the lost libraries went in my game... they teleported to YOUR games...

1.1 killed random maps in my opinion. And I also thought lost libraries were no more because of this! But then again there is allot less of everything in 1.1 random maps. Their so bland and boring i don't bother with random maps at all anymore, they have been nerfed into oblivion.

But one good thing did come out of killing random maps - it forced me to learn the map editor, and i have never looked back since!

PS: in one map i created, i put 4 lost libraries in close proximity for the purpose of a tech city, anyway, when i played that map, 3 more lost libraries spawned in the same area!! Nearly fell out of my chair! But in any case, i have noticed edited maps seem to be more generous with random spawn - possibly because i selected the spawn factor with the highest number? but i do not really know what that does? Possibly a way of resurrecting random maps, which i have considered? In other words, i could edit a saved map, but only change the random spawn and do nothing else, then save it and play it as if it were a random map.