Hi Bryan, Icons generally appear unselected while the W11 RClick menu is open. That is – when you RClick, Windows itself has an issue where icons don't appear selected while the menu is open. If you hit escape after R clicking, do the icons go back to appearing selected? The "jumping" part we're able to reproduce, and will look into
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Hi all, we may have a read on this one – can see in some logs where an inaccurate DPI might be coming in. Please stand by for a test build later this week
Hi all, we’re still working at wiring this up, but hope to have a build to test next week, thanks for your patience. A question as we continue to dig in. Short of toggling that option on/off, wondering what other types of activities “fix” the situation. I.e does just moving or resizing the Fence group resolve the issue? It sounds like perhaps moving it between monitors resolves it, but perhaps not just moving it before changing monitors? (Monitor might
Hi Johnny, just to update, haven't dropped this but we've been at work on a couple other minor issues that came up in the last large release, so we'll be circling back with that test build soon. Thank you!
Good to know. Thanks jcardii, rick. We're going to have a build soon that (1) takes a crack at resolving [unlikely to fix, but, a guess] (2) has some more debug info. Due to the intermittent nature of these, having to take guesses on where to even put this debug output, but am hoping this gives info. Again guessing this has to do with an issue we fixed within the last few months regarding monitoring HMONITOR handle handling, and downstream impacts.
This again does get into auto-layout territory which adds a great deal of complexities, so I don't see us being able to do this quite as stated. But will keep in mind some sort of general option for Tabs to store their contained Fence group heights independently as a global setting. 👍
Should be fixed in a Start 11 update with fix coming shortly, v2.72. Thanks for the report!
Hi all, new Start 11 coming soon with fix, keep an eye out for v2.72 coming shortly. Thank you!
Thanks for the report, we're looking into this one. Might have to do with an unrelated DPI-related fix within the last few months. @rick Does this only happen when "Use same spacing inside and outside of Fences groups" it set, and for icons within groups? From what you said it sounds like turning that off and back on again resolved, so some sort of intermittent thing going on there. Wondering if it impacts when that setting is left off, or, if its occurring for icons ou
Correct, yes at this time while it would be convenient in this specific case, this would create complications with other situations where this behavior would not be expected, and would create undefined behavior for what happens when the width is resized.
We are not reproducing the issue. A few users are reporting this. There are >100,000 active licensed copies of Fences. If it happened to everyone there would be tens of thousands of posts lasting over the course of a decade. I should add that spacing, when you change between DPIs and monitors, is something that Windows itself handles in an inconsistent manner and considerable work has been done to de-“mess-up” the spacing readings it provides when
Hi Crash28, you should be able to paste an image directly in. To that end, if you could upload a debug log that would be helpful. (1) Enable advanced debug logging (important) - this allows spacing info to be captured (2) Reboot (3) Reproduce the issue (4) Send us the log. You can access this "Enable advanced logging" and "Create error package" from the About -> Troubleshooting menu <img src="https://cdn.stardock.us/for
Hi mirok, interesting concept. Text without a background i.e. the skinny bar is not terribly practical unfortunately from a hit-testing perspetive and breaks a number of UX norms, so I don't see that coming. The border, team had made note for future considerations to help with contrast. Likewise reducing font size at large, which it does today but mostly only for scaling up. Always On Top mode is something that's been discussed but likewise, the desktop is the desktop,
Hi, please select "Enable Advanced Logging" from the menu / reboot, reproduce the issue and the team can have a look. The log upload does not have this enabled. Hopefully this log can give some information
Wow – yes I'd like us to get to the bottom of this. Ironically – we weren't aware of this issue from specific reports, but had identified this weakness while working on other things, and recent v6.42+ builds were supposed to improve this situation proactively. We changed from a system of saving the title of the navigated-to directory to the registry (therefore changing the save data on each navigation), to only the root folder name being saved / only saved further if
Fences 5 works with Windows 11. What problem are you experiencing?
basj, thanks for bringing this to dev team's attention Hi JonnyRando, this shouldn't be happening. Would like to get more information about what's going on. We might send a test build to help us get more information. Getting to the root of the flow... seems like it breaks after? I'm wondering how you "reset the view" to make it go back to working. (1) Is it navigated at startup, when this happens? Or at the root at time of startup? (
Hi Steve, unfortunately this is gone — it wasn’t by design, and we added ability to ensure icons weren’t getting lost underneath, which was a problem for many. This is a good idea though for adding ability to remove these specific icons from the desktop. We’ve forwarded it to the dev team. In the mean time you can create a group, place those in it, and set that group’s resting opacity to 0% to have it be hidden, or put them on an alternate page, where lik
Thank you! One final question. Do you have many/any icons in "%public%\Desktop" that vary between the computers? If we do this functionality, we're going to have to figure out how to handle the reality that different computers are going to have different icons, I think.
Good to know. Yup, the functionality we’re considering would sync contents, as well as offering to “copy” the layout from another PC. Btw one major thing we wouldn’t be able to work around — OneDrive can be a bit noisy around file changes. Tbd, but initial indications are that when you do change the contents of a group, it’s possible that you end up with a OneDrive notification of file changes on other PC, and certainly the config files
Hi dcomo1, currently, re sync, this is not possible, but it's something we're potentially investigating. As we've considered, it, one major question is whether the two(+) PCs have the exact same screen resolution and DPI. In theory, this is usually "no", in which case the layout itself would not be able to sync, but, the Fence group context would, and the existance of groups. They'd just need to be manually placed. So, it's unclear if this has any value. As is there's no expli
Hi Richard160, I'm wondering if the two computers use different screen resolutions? Fences remembers them on a per-resolution basis, so it would make sense if it is restoring the layout and then switching the layout to the saved layout, which is what was stored when that resolution was last used. In theory, if this is the case, you can modify the relevant backup file to remove/nurf the relevant resolution on the target system. In this case, if this data doesn't exist, it'
Ah! So moving the group fixes it? Interesting. Might need to do more work here to detect changes in sizing that are late. does pressing f5 fix it as well? (I know, infrequent) v6.46 has virtually no changes from v6.44 so again yes this seems like a system timing specific issue. Will have to continue to noodle on how to best next diagnose. Let’s see if we can chip away as it occurs. Thanks for the info
Hi avwohl, looking to try to work this out. Having a bit of a hard time as the numbers we're reading from the desktop do not seem to indicate the change 2026-04-24 20:30:01,206 - ReadDesktopSpacing 250/200/250 iconSize(96) desktopSpacingRaw(166,252) desktopSpacingAdj(150,227) sysMetricsRaw(188,188) sysMetricsAdj(150,150) lvSpacingRaw(236,236) lvSpacingAdj(236,236) shim(0) 2026-04-25 07:30:02,027 - DetectResolutionChange attempt | Monitor State [1|0,0|3840x2160]<
If you do, please again make sure advanced logging is enabled and submit an error report if able to see it again. Thanks for the help