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IE 7 Beta 2 Review

IE 7 Beta 2 Review

Good, Very Good!

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/ie7/default.mspx
Microsoft has released for public download the second Beta of the next version of their Internet browser. I have downloaded and installed the Beta 2 of IE7 (Internet Explorer 7) and so far I like the experience very much.

Key Features: Tabbed Browsing, a Streamlined (and highly configurable) user interface, greatly improved security, RSS feed support, toolbar search box. For a full feature list see Link (Some IE7 features will not be available until Vista rolls out.

Killer Feature: Quick tabs, thumb nail view of the tabs that you have open.

If you have used Firefox, the experience will be immediately familiar. Set up was easy, configuration was intuitive. The tabs look the way I have my tabs set in Firefox (I use Tab Mix Plus) and useage was familiar. IE 7 install also optionally runs the Microsoft Malicious Software Removal Tool at installation,which was a nice touch, I thought.

I configured the search box immediately, choosing Google over MSN Seach without problem.

Memory usage still seems higher than for Firefox. IE7 with two tabs open: 67 Mb. Firefox 1.5.0.1 with the same two tabs: 47 Mb. If anyone gets different results, I would like to see them.

As mentioned before, security is GREATLY improved. Tools> Manage Add Ons lets you see what is running and gives you the option of Enabling/Disabling an Add On or deleting it all together. There are also built-in links for a number of Add Ons, including security ones, at http://windowsmarketplace.com/content.aspx?ctId=63 You can get Pop Up blockers, anti-Spyware programs, etc.

The interface is way cleaner, although you can easily go back the IE6 "classic" look if you want. See Link

IE7 is obviously intended to go head to head with Mozilla's Firefox. In my not-so-humble opinion, it is competitive. It doesn't blow Firefox away, but it is much better than IE6.

Take the full tour at Link

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Reply #26 Top
In regards to the latest UI change, I've only seen screenshots, but I thought it looked a bit unorganized. Optimizing the space for the viewing of the website is good, but it didn't seem friendly.
Reply #27 Top
"As mentioned before, security is GREATLY improved. Tools> Manage Add Ons lets you see what is running and gives you the option of Enabling/Disabling an Add On or deleting it all together."

This feature already exists in IE6
Reply #28 Top
You forgot some of the other great features in IE7. Printing has been GREATLY improved and page zooming is pretty cool. We just have to remember that this is just a preview of IE7 and is mainly intended for developers to test it out on their pages and is not feature complete.

As with other browsers there are pros and cons with IE7. I can't wait to see the next release.
Reply #29 Top
UPDATE...
Upon reboot this morning and trying to connect to the net, I got a blue screen with the Windows has been shut down message.
On second reboot everything loaded okay and all seemed fine...until I tried to connect to the net, same blue screen.
Uninstalled IE7 beta and did a registry clean up, etc, and all is well with connecting to my ISP. It would seem that IE7 changed my internet settings somehow, as well as some scripts....when able to log on to the net, I got some 'change' message boxes from MS Antispy to state that some script and ActiveX controls had been reverted to their prior state (based on previous allowed settings).

Shame, that! I was enjoying its use. Oh well, sent an error report and I'm sure the issue will be resolved prior to final release.
Reply #30 Top
Fourth Letter, you are probably right and I simply was not aware of that feature in IE6. The new security features can best be summarized as follows:

Add-ons Disabled Mode
To help troubleshoot difficulties launching Internet Explorer or reaching specific websites, you have the ability to start in "No Add-ons" mode, where only critical system Add-ons are enabled.

ActiveX® Opt-in
Disables nearly all pre-installed ActiveX controls to prevent potentially vulnerable controls from being exposed to attack. You can easily enable or disable ActiveX controls as needed through the Information Bar and the Add-on Manager.

Security Status Bar
Enhances awareness of website security and privacy settings by displaying color-coded notifications next to the address bar. Internet Explorer 7 changes the Address Bar green for websites bearing new High Assurance certificates, indicating the site owner has completed extensive identity verification checks. Phishing Filter notifications, certificate names, and the gold padlock icon are now also adjacent to the address bar for better visibility. Certificate and privacy detail information can easily be displayed with a single click on the Security Status Bar.

Address Bar Protection
Every window, regardless of whether it's a pop-up or standard window, will present an address bar to the user, helping to block malicious sites from emulating trusted sites.

An additional feature will be added with Vista:

Protected Mode
Internet Explorer 7 in Windows Vista runs in isolation from other applications in the operating system. Exploits and malicious software are restricted from writing to any location beyond Temporary Internet Files without explicit user consent.

ExodusCrow, you are also correct about both the Printing and Zoom modes being very useful.

Advanced Printing
Automatically scales a printed webpage so that it's not wider than the paper it will be printed on. Internet Explorer 7 also includes a multi-page print preview with live margins, resizing text to avoid document clipping, and an option to print only selected text.

Page Zoom
Enlarge or zoom in on individual webpages, including both text and graphics, to either focus on specific content or to make content more accessible to those with vision limitations.

I also mentioned that, in my opinion, "It doesn't blow Firefox away, but it is much better than IE6." I said that I would probably run two browsers for a while. (Also be aware that Firefox 2.0 will be out sometime in the near future.)

IE 7 has importance, not as an upgrade for XP, but because it is the browser version that will ship with Vista. Vista will be out before the end of the year and all new PCs will ship with it. Sooner or later, it will make its way onto our PCs and that is reason enough for me to try the Beta.

Reply #31 Top
Personally for myself IE7 is quite more pleasing than firefox. Cutting out the intranet from the explorer itself was quite awesome, plus changing the default settings for the internet for home users was huge plus. I find using IE7 very gratifying.
Reply #32 Top
"select" statements in html look messed up with the 3 WB skins I've tried. They just show a blank box next to the object. Anyone else experience this?

Here's an example.


Reply #33 Top
If you want to add more search providers to IE7 than the default given, try TweakVista. Despite the name, it should work on XP if you have .NET 2.0 installed. It's got way more on offer than the default engines, and you can even make your own if your site supports "GET"-based search (with the parameters in the URL).
Reply #34 Top
I tried it, and played with it for about an hour this morning. I like it. I don't love it, but it's ok. In it's current beta state it would no way replace Firefox for me, but we'll see how it ends up in final version. I do like the zoom, and the new layout. Don't like how slow and jumpy pages scroll, and I don't like the toolbar options much... But it's much better than IE6, that's for sure.
Reply #35 Top

"select" statements in html look messed up with the 3 WB skins I've tried. They just show a blank box next to the object. Anyone else experience this?

Yes.  Also when I backspace to correct a spelling error the letters don't "disappear".

 

Reply #36 Top
I'm wondrig if it as something to do with IE7. But my login in wincustomize is refused since I've installed it while still accepted through Fx.Login failed also with my Firewall (Securepoint) and my Antivirus (Avast) desactived. Anybody with this kind o difficulty?

Wish a good day from rainy Paris
Reply #37 Top
I am sorry people. You all need a real internet experience. Get Opera, if you do you will thank me for it trust me. Atleast have a lookLink
Reply #38 Top

Get Opera,

I think I first started using Opera around '99 ......something like that...6 or 7 years....

Reply #39 Top
Get Opera, if you do you will thank me for it trust me


Tried it a few versions ago... HATED it.. Might try version 9 when it comes out but unless it's changed A LOT I probably still won't like it.
Reply #40 Top
Broken Square,
an app (Isass) in my task manager spiked my cpu to 100%


isass.exe ( I) is a virus. http://www.liutilities.com/products/wintaskspro/processlibrary/isass/

lsass ( L )is a system file, look closely and make sure of which process is running.

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So far i'm happy, i was waiting for this release for some time because a lot of my work uses sites with activx content, and Opera bombs out in that field, as well as with flash. I've been tired of using two browsers throughout the day. The first thing i did however was head over to Hermik's site to test the CSS. Everything loaded up quick and looked right. Upgraded CSS support is what will make the browser for me.

IE7 is more slick than its predessesors.. whether it was meant to or not, i accidentally removed the menu bar ( when i hit alt+f it temporarily appears wedged between the nav and tab bars ) but i still have access to all the options i would need.

I also appreciate how easy it was to change the search engine.

The Manage Add-On's feature is a blessing. One click and i have access to all of the misc crap that applications add on to IE and i can choose to remove them.

Will still need to figure out those tabs, though. I still get additional windows loading and i want only tabs.
Reply #41 Top

If you go to Google, it will prompt you to download a patch that makes Google the default search engine.

Reply #42 Top
"If you go to Google, it will prompt you to download a patch that makes Google the default search engine."

Even if you have already chosen it as the default.

Which is kind of obnoxious, don't you think?
Reply #43 Top
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There. Primal scream. O.K. Installed IE7. Couldn't find anything and got quite disturbed. Played with it a little while. I'm back to IE6. Thank you very much. Too new for me. I like the old fashined stuff. Bah! Humbug!
Reply #44 Top
Installed it on my test box. It's OK, nothing all that special and it's slow, actually it's very slow but I attribute at least part of it to the fact that it's still a beta. I'm ok with it running slow in it's current state, but MS had best fix that before they label it ready for prime time..
Reply #45 Top
anyone else having problems opening some links and drawing some websites? ex, www.reuters.com .. get in 2 links deep and ran in to link problems, had to right-click 'open' link, then the page i opened wasn't drawn properly. no text.. ad's duplicated.. tables messy.. said the pages was done loading, too.
Reply #46 Top
...but you can download fantastic skins for OPERA which make it look better than any other web browser. You can also customize the buttons until it becomes either really complicated or really simple.
You can create the web browser you have always wanted.
+ it is the fastest web browser i have ever tested. Faster than IE6, IE7, Mozilla Firefox, Netscape... i could go on. Seriously, this is the best browser i have ver used, i also use a portable version on my flash drive and i will never stop using it even after IE10!!
Reply #47 Top
Moving on form Opera...
i have downloaded IE7, i have to admit it is much better than its predecessors. Better security, much better looking, tabs are a nice touch but nothing new, much faster (but not as fast as you know what) and overall i am quite pleased with microsofts new browser, but it doesnt have that feel to it that makes it a really good browser.
+ it has crashed for me a few times, understandable from a beta though

...+ what it really needs is mouse gestures. Available in both Firefox and Opera, they really make browsing so much more pleasing.
Reply #48 Top
First of all, props to Tirasus for an open mind. Good to see.

For those that are having problems, two things:

Are you running SP2? Silly question, but people often fail to read the documentation.

What are your security settings set at? I use Custom Level. DesignCaddy, good to see you, I had no problems whatsoever with the Reuters site. Check that and try again.
Reply #49 Top
As a web page designer, I have several browsers installed for testing purposes. IE7 installed without any problems and all seemed fine for normal browsing. My only negative experience with it was the way it handled my Favorites. I have nearly 1000 links. At first the favorites menu filled the entire screen and I was only able to use the first 60 links. Then a week later only the links that I had used were available in the list and the unused was hidden, like in all XP menu systems. But when I clicked the double down arrows IE7 would close.

As far as CSS goes, I saw minor improvements. But it was a pleasant surprise to see that transparent .png support has FINALLY been implemented.
Reply #50 Top
It's a decent improvement. They need to make the menu bar and toolbar more flexible to modify. On my wide screen monitors the toolbar buttons on the 3rd row(classic menu displayed), they are way too far on the left and you can't move them left or rigth or up or down. Needs more work. They need to move it above the tabbed window row.

So far the new features work well and I like it.