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A Challenge To The 'Ruder' Critics

A Challenge To The 'Ruder' Critics

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It has been posed in the form of a question in these forums.."Is skinning an art?" Many have replied, and it would seem the overwhelming response is "Yes, it is."

"There are painters who transform the sun to a yellow spot, but there are others who with the help of their art and their intelligence, transform a yellow spot into the sun."
Pablo Picasso.


I think this best describes the ‘art’ of skinning. It’s not just a matter of having a command of the ‘software or program’ you choose to create with, but having a vision to begin with, and the ability to execute it, to be able to bring it to realization, to life. How long did it take for photography to be truly considered an art form by the artists who toiled in ink, paint, and other mediums?

"Back in the earlier part of the 20th century, there was a group of now-famous photographers that called themselves the "f64 Club," who prided themselves on the fact that they shot pictures at f64 to get the sharpest possible photos possible. Why was this unique? Because in those days, photography wasn't considered an art form unless photographers manipulated their photos in the darkroom to "blur them up" so they would look more like paintings. Photography, it seemed, was "too perfect" for the critical art world, so to be considered valid, your photos weren't allowed to be too sharp. The f74 club was a small group of mostly San Francisco photographers that challenged the idea and went against the grain by making incredibly sharp photographs. And, well, the rest is history."

Dan Heller- Photographer


How long did it take the critics to acknowledge photography as an art form? I would guess as soon as they realized they ‘could’ voice themselves on it- and people would listen.

Which brings me to the subject of criticism, particularly criticism in WC. I have noticed a rash of rather ‘harsh’ criticism being thrown about like rotten vegetables at a rowdydow. Something of note is that, a lot of these remarks are made by individuals who have made no contributions of their own, in the way of skins or wallpapers.

"Criticism comes easier than craftsmanship"
Zeuxis (400BC)


You could spend hours trying to define ‘art’ in any form or medium. Defining some other things, are a little easier.

Criticism- function: noun
1 a : the act of criticizing usually unfavorably b : a critical observation or remark c : CRITIQUE
2 : the art of evaluating or analyzing works of art or literature
3 : the scientific investigation of literary documents (as the Bible) in regard to such matters as origin, text, composition, or history

Meriam Webster Dictionary


I especially like the part.."usually unfavorably". If you look up 'review' and 'critique', you will find that they eventually refer back to ‘criticism’. Now , let’s try another word, as it may apply.

Constructive- function: adjective
1 : of or relating to construction or creation
2 : promoting improvement or development


The question this poses to me is this. Should comments made on ‘skins, etc’ be only that of a constructive nature? Of course, if we followed this, would something like ‘Nice work." be out of context? If we allow one, do we allow the other? (Example; This is garbage.) Then there is that whole freedom of speech thing.

It is difficult for a lot of people to take/accept criticism in any form. I feel for the ‘first- time artists’ who have chosen to put themselves’ out there’, as it were, and find harsh and sometimes hurtful criticism discouraging. As a community, I have seen many members at WC rise in defense of these ‘artists’ and it feels good to be part of such a community.

As for those that choose to continuously assault whatever work they see fit to on a whim, all I can do is offer my sincerest condolences. I can only assume it’s your inability to appreciate anything that may be different, beautiful, or just expressive that frustrates you to such lengths that you have no alternative than to unleash a swill of unconstructive, unsupportive, and unintelligent criticisms.

Any fool can criticize, condemn, and complain- and most fools do.
Dale Carnegie


To the artists that continuously brave these ‘fools’, I admire your determination and constant effort and willingness to put yourselves ‘out there’. To those who would assault these artists without having contributed…

"Critics are like eunuchs in a harem; they know how it’s done, they’ve seen it done everyday, but their unable to do it themselves."
Brendan Behan


Though I believe ‘everyone’ is ‘able’, it’s just that some are to caught up to realize it.

"Everyone has talent. What is rare is the courage to follow that talent to the dark place where it leads"
Erica Jong


I challenge you to find your courage. Put yourselves on the line. And discover for yourselves the ‘agony and the ecstasy’ of being an artist. Even when my work is not found appealing to some, or just plain rejected, there is a reward. Whether it be in satisfaction of having created something that only one person likes or frustration that forces me to re-examine what I was trying to say or do, and try again.

Criticism is prejudice made plausible
HL Mencken


You don’t have to hide behind such a transparent ‘plausibility’. The ironic thing is, you might find how quickly any effort you made would be accepted, welcomed, and appreciated. You may succeed, you may fail…but at least you could say you tried. It seems to me, saying you tried is much more intelligent and noble than the harsh and rude things you have chosen to say so far.

A painting in a museum hears more ridiculous opinions than anything else in the world.
Edmond D Concourt


I think most artists can agree with that last quote. It doesn’t mean we like it. It’s just a fact. Like the existence of the ‘fools’ mentioned by Dale Carnegie. But we do not need to exist together in such a hostile an unconstructive way. You know who you are. I challenge you to find your own creativity. Explore it. Express it here. You wouldn’t be here if you didn’t like some of the things you saw. Be a part of it.

If in the end, you can’t or won’t, then I challenge you to find a more constructive way to express you opinions. A more encouraging way to voice what you feel. You may not…will not..like everything you see…but shouldn’t your goal be to encourage the artist in the end to keep trying, in hopes that something you like will come forth?

I look forward to seeing if you have the courage and/or the class to accept my challenge.


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Reply #51 Top
Some of us don't even skin anymore because of the comments..


I do admit , that I have said some comments in the past where I didnt like a skin. I wasnt overly rude about it but there was an animation in a certain skin that I found distracting. So I commented how I liked the skin , except , the animation on the taskbar was so distracting that it took away from my whole user experience of that skin. The author of the skin whom I will not mention here got really angry for this mild comment and started lashing out at me. Said I had no right to criticize because I havent made any skins myself. While for the most part this is true , some friendly help would have been nice as in teaching me how I can edit this in skin studio so it adjusts to my liking.

I guess we all have our ups and downs day.


Finally , I have noticed some ruder critics , such as internetworld7 who should be removed from Wincustomize. I do appreciate Wincustomize , for the most part , they are unlike any other site out there. They let us be who we are as a person , and not censor our speech on these forums like some other sites would overly censor.

But this problem got annoying to the extent where the user should be removed on a cool off period of some sort.


Just my opinion on this.


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Reply #52 Top
There are two forms of criticism: Negative and positive. Criticism in any form can be a hard lump to swallow, and in its most positive form, it is only praise without meat, and the artist walks away with nothing but a pat on the back. In its most negative form, it offers nothing constructive, and the artist walks away with a bitter taste, resentful. An artist honed by years of criticism lets the negative comment that points nowhere roll off his/her back like water from a duck's back; one can't be affected by these lashes of the tongue. But a negative comment that explains itself and points to a possible solution, this is what an artist grows from. I'm not saying you should develop skin like leather, rather you should know what to pick up and take home with you. Nothing else matters.
Reply #53 Top
Great topic Po', though it seems I've found this thread a couple months late Being an admin on a gaming league, I and my cohorts find ourselves dealing with a similar type of flamers, nay-sayers, and cheats. The "scum of the internet" as I think of them. We've found that one effective way of dealing with them is simply leading by example. For those few that just can't rise above themselves there's that last resort tool of banishment. Better to kick one bad apple than to lose 10 good ones..
One thing I'd like to say about criticism; there could be A LOT MORE of the constructive type from the more experienced/more prolific few. That's not to say they've been doing any bashing, but that first-timers (or beginners) aren't getting any help. I see much of the "Awesome!", "Great job/work", *butt-kissing* types of comments that offer nothing in the way of improvement.
Po', you've put out a challenge to those that frequently make negative/derogatory comments, and I commend you for that. I want to challenge you who are Journeymen and higher to get off the 5star submissions and spend more time with the 3star and lower group. Help us improve and at the same time improve this community as a whole.
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I'm glad this still gets read and hits home for people, wether they agree or not. And equally glad to see comments.
An artist honed by years of criticism lets the negative comment that points nowhere roll off his/her back like water from a duck's back

I can see the point to this, and can go as far as to agree, but sadly. No one, in my humble opinion, should be honed by years of anything 'negative'. I still have to stand on the idea that 'criticism' should and must be 'constructive' wether it is in favor or not of the subject. I just don't see the point to "This sucks!" or "What a waste of effort."



types of comments that offer nothing in the way of improvement.

I have been guilty of this. Because I don't have the 'technological expertise' to really dig in and say what I like about it so much. The same applies for being 'critical' of something. So I ma much more apt to say 'Nice Work" than be critical, when I don't know what the hell I'm talking about. I guess you could call it the "If you don't have something nice to say' rule.

All in all, the community here is strong and the people are supportive. Each in their own individual way. Which is what makes this such an outstanding and unique place on the web, for anything. I think we all know about the 'bad apples' and realize they are a part of the whole experience. It's that knowledge that allows us to prevail. Though, and I have said it before and often, they sure can be damn frustrating, eh?

Reply #55 Top
types of comments that offer nothing in the way of improvement.

I have been guilty of this. Because I don't have the 'technological expertise' to really dig in and say what I like about it so much. The same applies for being 'critical' of something. So I ma much more apt to say 'Nice Work" than be critical, when I don't know what the hell I'm talking about. I guess you could call it the "If you don't have something nice to say' rule.


I have no artistic abitity/talent whatsoever, particularly when it comes to computer graphics, thus I have nothing of substance behind me to offer an opinion of 'technological expertise', and therefore refrain from speaking out of turn, so to speak. However, I know what I like....and if something pleases me, then I do feel inclined to say 'nice work/job' as a way of showing my appreciation, to give further encouragement to continue, etc, etc.
Okay, so it falls into the 'if you haven't anything nice to say' category'. but I don't agree with the "artist walks away with nothing but a pat on the back" idea either. It may not be technically/artistically constructive.....but at the same time it's not artistically destructive, as in, the artist is aware that people appreciate and like what they've done.....and that has to be a positive, not just for the artist, but the community as a whole....because the whole creative process then seems worth it, enjoyable and worthy of sharing the completed work/s.

Thankfully, there's only a very few who 'think?' it's clever to leave 'below the belt' comments.....simply because they get out the wrong side of the bed each day and don't like 'what', to others, is a fantabulous skin that took many hours of effort, dedication, talent and skill. These qualities/traits are lacking in these detractors who leave derogatory comments.....hopefully, one day, (and the sooner the better) they'll realise that having an acid tongue/soured mentality does not replace that which is admirable.


Each and every skinner who uploads here has something unique/special to offer/share, and whether or not they receive high or low ratings, comments that lean either way, I sincerely hope that each and every one will continue to upload and share here.....and for those who have ceased to do so for various personal reasons (some because of the negativity, perhaps), that they can and will return someday.....given there are some great skinning names absent from the 'Just In' list recently.
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When I see how few of the really good skinners are uploading lately it is definitely time for a rethink on ratings and comments policy. The software is nice but for most of us users it is useless without the contributions of people like Boxxi. If I have to wait weeks for something exceptional it makes it a little harder to justify re-upping when my subscrition runs out. Picky seems to go hand and hand with a low boredom threshhold. Really miss finding something new from Boxxi and the others I haven't seen for a while.
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Great article Po' Smedley.
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When I see how few of the really good skinners are uploading lately it is definitely time for a rethink on ratings and comments policy

Be grateful that the 'really good skinners' upload at all and don't take all their stuff and make them 'premium suites' you would have to pay for. As for the rest of us..(I am part of the rest of us since I have a long way to go before I am a 'great skinner), I love watching the talent develop. It's exciting to see someone offer up their first skin. I know the hours they spent and the hair pulling they went through to get this to work or that to line up, etc. The butterflies they must have as they upload it and hope it meets approval. The anxiousness of waiting for those comments, knowing 'something' is going to be wrong, something they missed in all the techno-crap they struggled with for 6 weeks. Whhat's even more exciting is when they upload the second skin and the third...and you can see the improvements. You can watch as they find their own way to becoming 'great skinners'.

Do not overlook or dismiss the potential of anyone who takes the time to try. Even someone who may have never made a skin but has played around with enough of them to know what works, etc., has the ability to help guide us novices if they too, take some time. AS for the 'great skinners'...I'll take partial blame for the abscence of skins from them. I have emailed and bugged a few for help to the point that I am surprised they still talk to me. They probably need a break every now and then, like we all do, and then have to deal with newbies like me who want to pick their brains endlessly.

In the mean time...(hint, hint) you could take that software and poke around in some of those skins and see what kinds of improvements you could make...or even try to make something. But be warned...it is addicting. The good thing is that by 'subscribing' you keep the community here going and allow a place for newbies and 'great skinners' to work with each other so that the quality of the skins uploaded will always be improving...and that you have a place to feed that addiction to your hearts content.

Great article Po' Smedley.

Thanks, Iben.

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Po', it's not that I don't appreciate the efforts of the newer skinners. I've downloaded a lot of their stuff. But I got really irritated when some skinners stopped because of the juvenile comments and drive by ratings. As for me I've only had the software for 9 months and not comfortable yet messing with stuff. I've only had a computor for a little over a year and since I'm getting close to 60, more than a little technophobic. Right now I'm concentrating on learning the new Dogwaffle PDPro and an older version of Carrara. I always was interested in drawing and art and hopefully will have a wallpaper to upload sometime. It's amazing that I, who never had any interest in owning or using computors, should find them so fascinating. Still hoping that Boxxi and some of the others will reconsider and upload.
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Still hoping that Boxxi and some of the others will reconsider and upload.


Same here! I'd also rejoice to see the like of BoXXi and other 'oldtimer' skinners return....to the point of doing handstands on my desk and whistling the theme tune to Welcome Back Kotter, just to see their names back on the 'Just In' list.

However, as Po so aptly put it, there's alot of great emerging talent among the newbie skinners....and for that fact, I am most thankful and appreciative. All these newbie skinners will improve with time and experience, and many will rise to the prominence of BoXXi and others, if given the encouragement to continue. In other words, if the majority of downloaders keep harping on about the absence of the 'old timers', that theirs were the best and truly great skins, it could be discouraging/deflating to those just beginning.

BTW... Majic, my comments are intended to be general, rather than personal and are not directed towards yourself or anyone else.
Reply #61 Top
No problem Sir Starkers. But I seem to have lost track of my point in my irritation over skinners having to put up with people whose only qualification to comment is that they can. I haven't been around here long enough to know all the reasons skinners quit. Personal, time limitations, desire, wanting to make some money on things they spend so much time on, all good reasons. My point is, what happens when the next generation gets tired of the idiots who seem to get off on being stupid and rude. Do they move on, or tough it out? Personnally, I don't think they should have to put up with it for something that they put so much time, effort and heart into and then give away.
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My point is, what happens when the next generation gets tired of the idiots who seem to get off on being stupid and rude. Do they move on, or tough it out? Personnally, I don't think they should have to put up with it for something that they put so much time, effort and heart into and then give away.


I think that's the whole gist of it, why should anyone be confronted with hostility, rudeness and arrogance after spending countless hours creating something, then freely sharing it with the community in good faith. If the older generation of skinners eventually tired of it, then it's safe to say that the next generation will also come feel similarly and want to quit/move on....
It's not the desirable outcome for anyone, so yeah, I'm all in agreement that rude, derogatory remarks be removed post haste, if not by an admin, necesaarily, then by the artist whose comment section has been defiled. In addition, repeat offenders should face exile....ie, a warning then 3 stikes and you're out.

Another thread deals with multiple accounts....and in the same vein, that it's not acceptable, reinventing oneself to regain entry after banishment has to be a no-no also. I'm not too sure how that could be policed/enforced, but if the technology was there for WC to recognise the signature of an exiles' computer/s, then perhaps that's a step in the right direction.
I suppose then an exile could use another, previously unidentified PC, but once you've encountered a skunk amongst your stock, you tend to recognise him next time around and shut up shop to keep it out.

Hopefully a satisfactory solution can be found to prevent our newer generation skinners wanting to quit, whilst attracting back some of the older generation skinners at the same time....to complete the stable and fill all the stalls, hey.
Reply #63 Top
The only way and yes THE ONLY WAY to deal with people looking to get a rise out of you is to ignore them.

Think about it, later that night when noone has responded to their childish instigative words, they feel like a moron. It won't take but a couple of days for them to realize how much of a loser they are. It is too easy to get people riled up online. Way too easy. As hard as it is to do, do not give them a second of your time. Later that night you will be very pleased with yourself for not getting drawn into a one sided argument. Yes, 1 sided because the more you respond to the person, the happier you make them. You might think they are riled up as well, but they are not. They are happy as can be making you angry.
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The only way and yes THE ONLY WAY to deal with people looking to get a rise out of you is to ignore them.

Think about it, later that night when noone has responded to their childish instigative words, they feel like a moron. It won't take but a couple of days for them to realize how much of a loser they are.


So true, NT...refusing to acknowledge/bite is the best way, so that eventually a moron is 'moreoff' the boards. Trouble is, some morons are so moronic that being a 'loser' is a class or two above them....that's when exiling becomes necessary/appropriate to quell their insatiable desire to incite trouble, get a bite.

When somebody derives pleasure from making others miserable, it's time to give them their marching orders.
Reply #65 Top
that's when exiling becomes necessary/appropriate to quell their insatiable desire to incite trouble, get a bite.


Yup, unfortunatley as mortals and not Super Wizops we don't have the power to exile them. As common folk, we can only ignore and tattle. I think the tune goes...

If I had a rocket launcher, some son of a bitch would die!
Reply #66 Top
Well, reading this, and modestly as an artist (musician), I feel driven to say that art is art.
When it comes to art, you can't say that something is wrong, or bad stuff, or crap.
Art is expression. You can't look at a piece of art and say "that's crap".
You could say "I like it" or "I hate it"... and that's even too much.
Unfortunately, sometimes we are more too selfish, an we think we can judge (as if the whole humanity should agree with us). I think it happens (maybe) because we need to prove we are successful or to pretend we are exceptional. It's just an inferiority feeling or jealousy. That's something we all feel sometime.
The most greatest and successful artists were and are criticized due to the diversity of tastes.
The thing is when one artist obtains a lot of attention. Then, fashion appears, and everybody seems to think that what that artist did is what all the artists should do or aim at.
That's a lie. We need to know that our works are genuine only if we are hearing ourselves. That makes us winners, without worrying about if we are accepted or congratulated. We need to enjoy that. Enjoying what we do is what makes us successful.
Besides that, too many good artist were recognized much more late than when they expected. So, we need to feel free of critics. Feel free to do what we feel we must do.
And guess what... that's just what I think.
Thanks to all the artist who make this site as awesome as it is, and for making our lives richer.
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As common folk, we can only ignore and tattle.

Or pass the info/issue on to those who CAN deal....

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from a skinner's standpoint i will say that the community as a whole has become so much pickier than they have in the past. i'm not sure what the reason for this is. perhaps it has to do with what they feel is a "lack of quality product" coming out going back to the "boredom level" comment. it's almost as if they don't find anything they like, some of the ruder users will take it out on the artists. it's becoming such a chore to make something nowadays that will be accepted as a whole. and when you see some of the comments being left on other submissions it makes you question whether or not you should even continue skinning. i hate to say it, but you think "why should i go through all of this for these ungrateful people?". at this point skinning goes from "creating what you like and sharing it with the world" to "this is now my second job". anything you do for fun that becomes a job is no longer fun. most of the skinners on this site do not work for stardock, but i swear that alot of users assume that we do. quality product is not our "job" but unfortunately WC depends on us for it. as for the rude critics, go make something better than what you just slammed, we dare you.
Reply #69 Top

from a skinner's standpoint i will say that the community as a whole has become so much pickier than they have in the past.

I'm not sure that's quite true.  Back in the dawn of [skinning] time there were those who belittled and opined over the skinners' works.  I'm thinking pre-Wincustomize.com ...back when skinz.org, Customize.org and Deskmod.com were just about all there was out there.

Perhaps what we see now is less tolerance of fatuous opinion by those who have 'been there, done that' already in ages past and are simply getting tired of the gift-horse attitudes of some.

When some of the 'elder skinners' are contemplating chucking it all in because this rubbishing is getting older than Adam it's down to the Admins on all the sites to suggest that 'enough is enough' and to 'sit on' the more uncomplimentary souls out there.

It doesn't have to end up as a Mutual Appreciation Society....just a mature, understanding one...

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It doesn't have to end up as a Mutual Appreciation Society....just a mature, understanding one


I like that.
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it's becoming such a chore to make something nowadays that will be accepted as a whole. and when you see some of the comments being left on other submissions it makes you question whether or not you should even continue skinning. i hate to say it, but you think "why should i go through all of this for these ungrateful people?". at this point skinning goes from "creating what you like and sharing it with the world" to "this is now my second job". anything you do for fun that becomes a job is no longer fun.


Scion....I would just like to say that the majority is grateful and appreciative of the contributions skinners post here at WC. However, the "why should I go through all of this" should be more about what you enjoy doing for yourself....first and foremost.
If that happens to be the pleasure of creating skins for your PC, it's more of a passion than a second job, and if you're generous enough to share them with the community, you're 10 foot tall, as compared to the miniscule pissant critic whose sole purpose in life is to reduce everyone to their own inadequate/inferior level.

The important thing to remember here is that a critic is not necessarily a person of ability or talent, except for having an opinion, perhaps.....an opinion that's shared ONLY with their alter-ego.
Can't attribute this saying to anyone in particular,but.....'opinions are like arseholes, everybody's got one, but at the end of the day, the only important one to you is your own.' How true that is!

If Arnold Swarzenegger had listened to the critics who said he couldn't act and just quit...not only would he not have made some great movies, he'd not be Governor of California today. Okay, so his acting wasn't the greatest to begin with, but what he lacked in talent, he made up for with a huge on-screen presence and a great deal of enthusiasm, improving each and every step of the way.
Same applies here....let the pissant critics get you down, and you'll not realise your full potential. Unfortunately, there's a few 'skinning illiterate' cretins here who 'think' it's their duty to proffer unqualified judgements, but they are in the minority and are insignificant in the big picture.....so a big hey to all skinners, don't let 'em get under your skin.
Reply #72 Top
from a skinner's standpoint i will say that the community as a whole has become so much pickier than they have in the past.


The reason is choice. With thousands of skins out there, we have choice. We decide what we like and don't like. It's as simple as that.

Art is art. Would you tell Monet that you didn't like the pink color use in his Waterlillies? Or that the Mona Lisa needed eyebrows? No.

Is what we do art? That's a very fine line that's tough to balance. With that being said, do people really, REALLY want creative criticism. It's the creator's (artist's?) vision. It's how they want it to look. Do we really have the right to make a criticism on their art?

In writing this, I'm questioning my own comments I've made on various submissions. Do I really want them to change just to conform to what I think is good, or anyone else for that matter? I guess the answer is no. They are releasing their creativity. I am a big supporter of this and believe that creativity leaks out into other parts of our lives.

This also leads me to rethink the rating method IF skinning truly is an art. Aspiring skinners see these ratings of what people like. Does this inspire them to expand their creativity, or make them question their ability?

Personally, seeing other peoples works gives me ideas, and tips, and tricks, and new techniques. I take these and incorporate them into my new "art." In all honesty, and I truly mean this, I like to read the comments on my submissions. I am creating items in my vision. I don't let comments rule how I design. I always design what I feel. I believe our other contributors should do the same.

I am my own worst critic.


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Reply #73 Top
My two cents.

Most everyone is their own worst critic.
Beauty will always be in the eye of the beholder.
Take critics comments with a grain of salt, especially if they have never contributed any works.
Opinions are like arseholes, everyone has one and they all mostly stink.
It's better to shoot for the stars and miss, than to aim at a pile of s**t and hit!

Though I have not ever contributed to the site, other than post here and there, I still continue to attempt to create, I also know that it takes time and perseverance to create. I think that anyone who has created anything is just one step ahead of the critics, just by sharing with the rest of the world.
Reply #74 Top
i really do think ratings are vital to the site. they provide a good way for users to search for quality work. but i think the physical act of rating is flawed...simply becaue it requires no thought. one click and you're done. you can take a quick look at a screenshot...decide "this sucks" or "this is great" and rate it accordingly far too easily. that's really all it requires...one click. now if you were to break the rating up into catagories such as:

graphical quality 1-5
usablility 1-5
concept 1-5
design 1-5
stability 1-5
bugginess 1-5
level of skin completion (everything skinned) 1-5
features included (wallpaper etc...) 1-5

by breaking up the rating and creating a blended score it would produce a more fair rating...and provide the author with some valuable feedback other than simple comments such as "i don't like this" or "this is great". an artist could actually pinpoint areas of improvement based on the rating. the rating would also require thought and eliminate some of the "window shopping ratings" or "drive bys" simply by making it more difficult to rate something. and by god, they may actually need to download your work first.
Reply #75 Top
another random thought...

what about tying the comments in with the ratings? rather than leave one large in general comment...have commments for each catagory as to why they rated it that way.