Bug Reports for Altarian Prophecy Beta 3

Hello Cari,

I just started a new game, it's sept 2179, just a few turns after the start and I have a couple of questions.

- do major races already start with a knowledge of where resources are? A few turns after the start of the game, there is already one starbase per race in the galaxy (I didn't check yet if they are on ressources. Just wondering here.

- Related to the first point, starbases are still visible, although they are in non explored sectors. It's a good way to know where the majors are though.

- I saw this when I installed the 1.49C beta:
[...] + 8 included maps (these are super cool too!)
+ Minors are no longer allowed to build wonders or trade goods
[...]

However, in my game, Carinoids just build Diplo Translators, beating me to it (I thought I could go a bit slower, since they were off the race ... ). Is it really no trade goods & wonders at all, or just no wonders and some trade goods? Or maybe Carinoids have a special treatment
~SDC~

Edit:
I've just checked 3 of those starbases. All on ressources. And there was a ressource close to my home planet, and 3 different civs sent constructors to it. But I don't think it was possible they knew it was there: i would have noticed their ships exploring the area :notsure:
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I have no save games for before the diplo translator was made. The first save I have is a few months after (feb 2180). Don't know it would help. :notsure:

~SDC~

sorry no save game but the carrinoids developed ultra spices and they are not supposed to be able now v1.49C[b]002 (as per this history update)

Thanks

The AP is great

I restarted a game. This time manors are not building anything so far -- maybe because the Yor have many bonuses (they're on incredible) and are grabbing all the other trade goods. But at least i could get diplo translators , which usually in a good indicator in my games.

I just had a CTD on trying to reload a previous save. I had one before, in the first game, but could not reproduce it so I'll assume it was my fault . But since for this one I had smartexception running, I'll be sending you shortly a savegame previous to the crash, the debugg file and the smartexception report.

~SDC~

A few minor ones:
ai's aren't playing by the rules! Either the first or second UP issue restricted starbase modules to 4. The Drengin have since gone mad building 13+ module bases. Ironically the vote was just me vs Drengin and they voted for the restriction. Bad Drengini.

Playing on the Gigantic Balanced custom map, occasionally some of the stars disappear from the minimap, usually the ones near the edges & corners.

Same map, there is a star with no planets (Westerfeld) with an unhappy icon on it.

~SDC~

sector 3-4 clicking on trade ship causes crash
sent email with smartexeption file and saved game.

also noticed in past instanced (not included in the files) that some trade ships were being displayed with the "electric charges" around them meaning they were 'damaged'??? ....clicking on them with also CTD.

Resources are showing on tactical map even for sectors not investigated by me. It looks like when any of the AI opponents are scouting and come across one it will show up on the mini map for me. And you can see it show during the time the AI ships are moving.

I won an alliance victory, or so I thought. Game continued. Restarted, saw that all optional victory conditions were unchecked. Weird. Checked them. Forward. Back: all of them unset again.
Looks like the game decides to unset the victiry conditions no matter what.

The reset of victory conditions I was a victum of in the last Beta. The latest Beta released Friday fixed it for me, sure you have Beta C.


The Alexians beat me to Diplomatic Translators, which as stated should not happen according to the version notes.

The only thing I did see is the time stamp of saved games is about 6 hours off from my computers clock.

Great Beta Stardock !!

Text from email:

The Arceans had the 'leader assassination' event and got their ton of corvettes. However, none of them move to attack (even vulnerable constructors).

Also - I get a prompt for every planet that builds any social project, even if there are additional items in the queue. For example, a bit later than this, I add the Stadium and Planetary Defenses to the governor's list. A few turns later, most of my planets finish the new project - and I have to click "next" on every one even though Planetary Defense is already dropped into the project slot.

Save file attached.

Just a few minor issues...

The logos for the minors are different from teh original game eg Carinoids now use the old Scottinglas logo, but when you then click on them you get another logo altogether.

Agree with the minors building TG and TW when they shouldn't.

When social projects have been built it seems like I have to hit next for 1 plus the number of planets in the system before it will move on to the next system.

Getting the error message when using a terror star "Unable to move cos too far away from home system, hope nobody's afraid of the dark" or something like that.. had to move a constructor and build a starbase in the sector before I could do anything with it.

I posted elsewhere but didn't get a response so I'll ask here.

For some reason even though I don't have Drengin.net and haven't ordered Altarian Prophecy. It is showing up in Stardock Central.

It is listed as
Name: Galactic Civilizations - Altarian Prophecy [Shareware]
Installed: --------
Available:
Updated: 16/12/2003
Size is listed as 0b

And it says I can download it.
Is this meant to be happening or is this a mistake?

Elden, someone is looking into it.

I finally have a saved game proof of Auto-Survey/anomalies going poof. Let me know if you want it, gracious CariElf. At the time of the save, my Survey ship is heading for an anomaly. Hit next turn, and it switches to a differen, distant anomaly. Interestingly, if I force the ship to survey it, the anomaly turns up empty. Also, if I play the turn normally, instead of just hitting space to skip through all my ships, the anomaly will disappear! Woot, I'm not hallucinating!

The I-League landed 1 sector over. I couldn't talk to them, except by clicking on their planet and clicking on the Speak to button. Yum, an extra planet is always welcome!

~SDC~

Carielf I don't know if this a bug or not, but I build A Terror Star and it doesnot move, it says move 0-0, I thought that they could move 1-1? Does this change or it is a bug?

Map editor bugs:

When I full screen the app, there's a pixel wide border around the map that is not painted by any of the Objects, so I see wierd junk from behind. I'm in 1028x768. If I resize instead, when I get to about 75% of screen, I see the artifact appear.

If I double click on a map file, it properly starts up the editor, but the editor ignores the input.

The exe file turns into an MFC icon... Actually, I like it too for quick 'n dirty programming muhahahah!

Right click on nothing does nothing. That's just plain wrong!

Apparently I can type in a PQ of 300. Planet is so awesome, its all white!

I get the error below fairly often when I right click on a star, then click somewhere else:
GCError ---------------------------
GCEditor
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An unspecified error occured.
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OK
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If this doesn't happen, a new star will get plopped down at the location I click, when I just want to get rid of the menu.

~SDC~

RabidRob: yes, I want the save game. Please make sure to say what the save game is supposed to reproduce in the e-mail so that I'll remember.   Does it also have the I-League in it, or have you already conquered them?

I think on the last one that it tries to place the star close to the one you're trying to click off of.  Try right clicking on an empty space to get rid of the menu.

Shalom Shemesh: That doesn't sound right. Can you e-mail me a save game with the terror star? If you have one right before you built it, that would be great, too.

[email protected]

That game was done before the latest patch was released so I will do another game specially to see if the bug is still there.

1.16 mb wandering across the interweb, trying to find the wise CariElf.

Whose wisdom is further proved by the insight into the GCError, it is indeed caused by attempting to put stars next to each other. This parsec isn't big enough for the both of 'em!

~SDC~

Possibly a bug. Starbases are showing up on the min-map even when the area where they are is unexplored and the race that owns the starbase has no contact with you.

The symbols for each of the the minor races on the initial diplomacy screen change to one of the others in the large window when you enter into negotiations with them.

I had the UP tech sharing issue and got the message that although the UP had voted to share 8 techs we would not be receiving any as we were too advanced. However, I suddenly got a whole bunch of newly completed techs arrive (more than 8 it seemed).

Well, I feel pretty stupid. Checked the 'governor ignores GNN' (which I had never understood what that meant anyhow) and saw that it was off. Turned it on and I'm no longer prompted every time something in the queue is done. Can't believe I've been playing all this time and never knew what that option meant.

Please ignore my previous comment on the UP issue. Sorry for any inconvenience,. Move along please, nothing to see here!

I have a problem with the latest patch, I am almost at the end of one game and I cannot buil The Terraformer, everytime I click on it in the planet screen to build it. The game CTD. Any ideas?

I cannot load any maps - is there anything special that must be done or are the map & campaign features not enabled yet?