Something Amiss with Ship Designs Disappearing

I loaded a save game this morning and now the "Point of Light" class reappears.      

Thank you Dorian, may I ask has this been consistent for you anytime that Space Weapons is researched?

And then gone again after researching "Defense"...

Maybe I should save and reload?

Nope - made no difference this time. 

Hey, ships will get upgrades on the stock version once you research new techs. There is a bug, where a ship disappears. We are already investigating it. You could help us by submitting a save file before and after you research a tech. Thank you!

I probably have saves from this morning.  Where do I submit the save game files?

Should I just post a one drive link here?

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Edit

Nope, I do not have before / after saves from this morning, but will start a new game and should be able to reproduce fairly soon.  It happens practically every time since I know what to look for now.

Yes, it has been for the past several games.

There are a couple of early Wpn Techs where weird things seem to happen with Altarian Beam-Ship Designs suddenly becoming unavailable.  It is nearly 100% reproducible on my end.

It may happen with Kinetic Wpns too, but I don't really use those very much so it is not as noticable.

Missile Wpn Designs seems to be unaffected, so far.

I can provide saved game files. I have some ships that disappear from the ship design screen on the next turn. 

Saved game file turn 361 is before the bug occurs. Turn 362 is when the ships disappear from the ship design screen.

Link to folder containing files is below:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1XHBgfZHpquqcusPS3jbvdQPyAME7WVz0?usp=drive_link

T34

After Researching "Directed Energy Wpns", now cannot build any Beam Wpn ship.

Save Game File:

https://1drv.ms/u/s!ApomLrihV-7hgpUoq0iN89gjJY2GXg?e=cpMgDR

Relevant Log: (I am player ID 18)

Debug Message:  EndTurn 33

Debug Message:  ProcessQueuedResearch pPlayerID 18
Debug Message:  Popup Manager Update: Unhiding ResearchCompletePopupWnd
Debug Message:  Destroying obsolete ship design: Repair Nanite Cloud Ship M13 ID 2115014
Debug Message:  Destroying obsolete ship design: BPU-BM M14 ID 5260753
Debug Message:  Destroying obsolete ship design: BPU-MS M14 ID 5260751
Debug Message:  Destroying obsolete ship design: Shield Bubble Ship M14 ID 3163548
Debug Message:  Destroying obsolete ship design: Lobster M17 ID 1066412
Debug Message:  Destroying obsolete ship design: Repair Nanite Cloud Ship M13 ID 17839157
Debug Message:  Destroying obsolete ship design: Slicer Drone M14 ID 3163450
Debug Message:  Destroying obsolete ship design: Plated Drone M14 ID 3163448
Debug Message:  Destroying obsolete ship design: Shield Bubble Ship M14 ID 8405289
Debug Message:  Destroying obsolete ship design: Cutter M16 ID 20984777
Debug Message:  Destroying obsolete ship design: Defender M16 ID 30424376
Debug Message:  Destroying obsolete ship design: Shield Bubble Ship M16 ID 18887881

Turn 36

After researching "Photonic Alignment", Point of Light show back up, but what about other Beam-Ships?

Save Game File:

https://1drv.ms/u/s!ApomLrihV-7hgpUqwx4wSBB5Cg_Jig?e=4onhKi

T40

After researching "Battle Cruiser Doctrine", no Cruiser Beam ship      

You really do not need all these save game files, all you have to do is play the game!

Something is seriously horked because even my "custom" bare-bones, Cutting Principal I is not showing up in the build queue list.

And it is only using - 2 x Particle Beams, 1 x Star Cannon, 1 x Hypersonic Missile, 1 x Hull Plating

I stand corrected.  It shows up now after loading the save game twice.

Are you guys caching the ship design templates -or- rebuilding a 'bin' file between saves?

Another example, different game.

Turn 58.  Cutting Principal doesn't show at all.

But if I save and reload, here it is now....

This is just nuts!    

Thank you for the follow up details, its appreciated. Another player was also able to replicate, so ive submitted both to the team

Thank you Ramma.

Most recent game, I have researched "Battleship Doctrine" tech, but none of the "Battleship" designs are available to build.

Really hope they get this fixed soon!

Hello Dorian,

I wanted to circle back to see if the latest update addressed this issue at all?

I have also noticed ship designs disappearing from the build que. Never realized that it may be associated with tech research. If I notice it again, I'll upload a game save file for you guys.

I don't think version 2.7 has fixed this issue. When I play with the game file I made before version 2.7 came out using version 2.7 I still get problems with ships disappearing from build menu. But I have not tried making a new game to see if that makes a difference.

I've just been hit with this issue in a very long game where half of my latest designs are no longer showing up. Do you still want save files for this issue?

When I reach the end of the tech tree I can keep researching Higgs Fields Disruption. I noticed sometimes the ships that disappear are the ones using that tech, but then after I research it again the ships come back and I can see them again. It seems like If I research certain end game techs the game thinks I don't know certain other tech and those ships using that tech disappear until I research the tech they need again. This was happening for the game I created before version 2.7 came out but still using version 2.7.  

I started a new game using version 2.7 have not got to end game yet.

Hello,

Yes we'd still appreciate files

Okay, can do. Per one of the other posts, I tried to re-research Higgs Disruption to see if that'd re-enable the missing designs, but it didn't.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/12nZYqFGCFT050ziZL1E0NPAn2eSZK1cZ/view?usp=sharing

Please let me know if you're unable to access the file or need it submitted to a different site.

N.B., https://drive.google.com/file/d/12oZ7iUvInyy13ASMcSr0uS4xtjvI2HIq/view?usp=drive_link is the save file at the end of the turn where the ship designs are still available.

Hello, I can confirm ship designs are going missing. It's like every time I discover a new weapon improvement,  the ship design would be replaced by another.  For example, I'm playing Terrans, and the Generic  weapon  balanced combat ship is the Prowler class. Except  every time I research a new weapon check,  the Prowler, rather than being updated, is replaced by an entirely different  ship design  like,  I just did a  beam  weapon upgrade, and  it's giving me  only the Intrepid class beam  weapon  type cruiser. Same with  the battleships size. 

I am encountering this issue too.

My dreadnought and battlecruiser just disappeared. Where can I submit save games? I have one before and after the disappearance.

This is a known issue. To prevent clutter the ship designer only keeps one ship of every role. Depending on how you research techs your best design for a given hull size may have a different name. So lets say you have a cutter which is a Frigate (Small Hull) beam ship and you research upgraded missile weapons that are better than your old beams.

If your going to let the AI design all your ships know that the name of those designs is going to depend on the weapons that it evaluates as being the best. 

The solution is to save the custom designs or designing yoru own ships. 

Its been brought up to the dev team mostly to make sure there is more variety in the ship designs. This problem wont go away for AI ship designs unless devs make it so every possible class of ship can appear which could lead to a lot of designs to choose between.