neone6

Startbutton disappeared after update.

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Startbutton disappeared after update.

WB11/Start1

March 17, 2023 4:06 AM from

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I had a Windows update yesterday and after that the Start button doesn't show anymore

-Tried different settings in WB and start11 to No avail.

Windows 11 Core 22H2 (22621.ni_release.220506-1250)
WindowBlinds 11.01 (012 x64 - Windows 11 Edition) - 64 bit OS

Window titlebar blur features are enabled on this operating system

Wblind.dll 2023/01/17 18:25:18
Wblind64.dll 2023/01/17 18:25:22
Wbsrv.dll 2023/01/17 18:25:33
WB11Config.exe 2023/01/17 18:25:29
Wbload.dll 2023/01/17 18:25:38
Screen10.exe 2023/01/17 18:25:45

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Start11 version 1.41

os customization

56,461 views 99 replies

Reply #51 March 19, 2023 2:43 AM from

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Start11 is working ok now

Reply #52 March 19, 2023 2:58 AM from

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Quoting Chasbo, reply 51

Start11 is working ok now

Glad to hear. Chuck. Did you do anything special?

Curtains - Customize Windows with additional styles

Reply #53 March 19, 2023 6:41 AM from

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neone6 not only do you supply stellar themes you also speak out eloquently on behalf of windowblinds users. As such a dude, have been trying unsuccessfully for hours to find solution to this problem which is vexing not only for those whose livelihood is on the line. Fix this issue, Stardock, or Jorge might just winstep his way into your market share.

Reply #54 March 19, 2023 6:53 AM from

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Quoting morzenzat, reply 53

Fix this issue, Stardock, or Jorge might just winstep his way into your market share.

Stardock does what it does, and JcRabbit does the same. Jorge's software (specifically the systray area) has also been adversely affected by Micosoft's changes in Moment 2. Btw, WSX and WB are complementary, not competitors.

Reply #55 March 19, 2023 6:55 AM from

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"Glad to hear. Chuck. Did you do anything special?" - DrJBHL

I was using an old skin - Pitch Black - the start button would only display centered with Start11.

Switched to Pavonis - Start button can be displayed using all options in Start11.

Thinking it's not perfect but much improved. It's reasonable that there might be problems with some of the old skins.

Reply #56 March 19, 2023 7:19 AM from

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Quoting Chasbo, reply 55

Thinking it's not perfect but much improved. It's reasonable that there might be problems with some of the old skins.

Agree with you.

Reply #57 March 19, 2023 8:45 AM from

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Devils Advocate Mode: Implementing a startbutton graphic into the skin that fits the OS limited requirements is not an option as long as stardock fights with microsofts constant changes?

Reply #58 March 20, 2023 5:27 AM from

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Quoting DrJBHL, reply 56

Quoting Chasbo,

reply 55

Thinking it's not perfect but much improved. It's reasonable that there might be problems with some of the old skins.

Agree with you.

My LATEST Insidian (for example) HAS the problem mentioned... -It has Nothing to do with whether the Skin is "old" or not.

Reply #59 March 20, 2023 2:41 PM from

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Quoting neone6, reply 58

My LATEST Insidian (for example) HAS the problem mentioned... -It has Nothing to do with whether the Skin is "old" or not.

Even this (finished today) With a "smaller" startbutton is Messed up :/

-Would be nice with info about if this is being worked on... $:\$

Reply #60 March 20, 2023 3:15 PM from

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Quoting neone6, reply 59

Would be nice with info about if this is being worked on...

I'm sure it is, Andy.

Reply #61 March 20, 2023 4:09 PM from

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Quoting neone6, reply 59

Quoting neone6,

reply 58

My LATEST Insidian (for example) HAS the problem mentioned... -It has Nothing to do with whether the Skin is "old" or not.

Even this (finished today) With a "smaller" startbutton is Messed up :/

-Would be nice with info about if this is being worked on... $:\$

This seems kind of odd, I am not seeing this issue with other skins that have what looks to be the same size start button as in the screen shot above.

As far as an update, Neil does have a copy of Insidian, so I am sure he is looking into it

Paul Scroggins
Associate Technical Support Analyst

Reply #62 March 20, 2023 4:46 PM from

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Quoting TPScroggins, reply 61

Quoting neone6,

reply 59

Quoting neone6,

reply 58

My LATEST Insidian (for example) HAS the problem mentioned... -It has Nothing to do with whether the Skin is "old" or not.

Even this (finished today) With a "smaller" startbutton is Messed up :/

-Would be nice with info about if this is being worked on... $:\$

This seems kind of odd, I am not seeing this issue with other skins that have what looks to be the same size start button as in the screen shot above.

As far as an update, Neil does have a copy of Insidian, so I am sure he is looking into it

Paul Scroggins
Associate Technical Support Analyst

I couldn't reproduce any issue with insidian other than it having a start button thats absolutely massive. Mouseover, clicking etc work just fine. Due to the size it needs WB 11.02 and Start11 1.42 with enhanced taskbar enabled.

Reply #63 March 20, 2023 4:57 PM from

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Quoting Neil, reply 62

I couldn't reproduce any issue with insidian other than it having a start button thats absolutely massive.

I didnt want the Taskbar buttons too close to it... Hence the Size, and it has never been an issue until now.

Quoting Neil, reply 62

Due to the size it needs WB 11.02 and Start11 1.42 with enhanced taskbar enabled.

I only have 11.01 in my Downloads... Where can I get 11.02 ?

Reply #64 March 20, 2023 5:00 PM from

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Quoting neone6, reply 63

I only have 11.01 in my Downloads... ??

Go here Andrew: https://forums.stardock.com/517602/page/1/#3882862

Reply #65 March 20, 2023 5:02 PM from

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Quoting JanOscar, reply 64

Quoting neone6,

reply 63

I only have 11.01 in my Downloads... ??

Go here Andrew: https://forums.stardock.com/517602/page/1/#3882862

Thank you Jan Oscar

Reply #66 March 20, 2023 5:16 PM from

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Okay, so I installed 11.02 But the Button still disappears when there are no Taskbar buttons on the taskbar plus it's still hard to find a spot where it reacts to Mouse-over

If There is a setting that I Overlooked please tell me because it doesn't work as well as You describe it Neil... at least not for me .

Reply #67 March 20, 2023 5:35 PM from

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Quoting neone6, reply 66

If There is a setting that I Overlooked please tell me because it doesn't work as well as You describe it Neil... at least not for me .

Due to the size it needs WB 11.02 and Start11 1.42 with enhanced taskbar enabled

Reply #68 March 20, 2023 5:48 PM from

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Quoting DrJBHL, reply 67

Due to the size it needs WB 11.02 and Start11 1.42 with enhanced taskbar enabled

Yup and that's what I got

Reply #69 March 20, 2023 6:01 PM from

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Tried to make a recording to demonstrate, but since the recording-app is open, the startbutton keeps showing... -Trust me , It disappears as soon I close all activities on the taskbar...

Reply #70 March 21, 2023 9:45 AM from

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Quoting neone6, reply 69

Tried to make a recording to demonstrate, but since the recording-app is open, the startbutton keeps showing... -Trust me , It disappears as soon I close all activities on the taskbar...

Yes it does disappear just like Andy says. Only way it doesn't is if you have the button centered or if there's something open like a folder and you minimize it or if you pin an app to the taskbar. I have Spotify pinned. That is when the button is left.

Reply #71 March 21, 2023 9:52 AM from

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Quoting neone6, reply 68

Quoting DrJBHL,

reply 67

Due to the size it needs WB 11.02 and Start11 1.42 with enhanced taskbar enabled

Yup and that's what I got

Andy, you didn't say you had Start11 1.42 otherwise I wouldn't have mentioned it.

Reply #72 March 21, 2023 9:59 AM from

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enhanced taskbar enabled.

where is this option in start11? i cant seem to find it

Reply #73 March 21, 2023 10:55 AM from

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Quoting Chasbo, reply 70

Quoting neone6,

reply 69

Tried to make a recording to demonstrate, but since the recording-app is open, the startbutton keeps showing... -Trust me , It disappears as soon I close all activities on the taskbar...

-Yes it does disappear just like Andy says. Only way it doesn't is if you have the button centered or if there's something open like a folder and you minimize it or if you pin an app to the taskbar. I have Spotify pinned. That is when the button is left.

Some recognition of the problem at hand $\o/$

Reply #74 March 21, 2023 11:24 AM from

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Quoting Psych0sis, reply 72

enhanced taskbar enabled.

where is this option in start11? i cant seem to find it

Reply #75 March 21, 2023 1:25 PM from

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Quoting neone6, reply 73

Quoting Chasbo,

reply 70

Quoting neone6,

reply 69

Tried to make a recording to demonstrate, but since the recording-app is open, the startbutton keeps showing... -Trust me , It disappears as soon I close all activities on the taskbar...

Some recognition of the problem at hand $\o/$

Even though it shows with something Pinned to Taskbar, getting it to Respond is another story

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