Gary: Good ONE! LMAO!

Can we bring this thread back on topic now?

The thread is about the impending court decision on the pledge, as it currently is said, being allowed in schools, not how the US and Cananda are different.

No thanks paxx....not much into politics...and frankly don't know a thing about Canadian politics... but if they're anything like American politics I supposed I can 'raspberry' across the border too lol

yrag....it's RIFLE hunny hehehe and I don't loan em out cuz I don't like my sights messed with

I agree with you Kona and KarmaGirl

Paxx: what _footsie_ said in post #72 was exactly what you said to me concerning your agreement with the practice of aborting the mentally handicapped ( https://www.wincustomize.com/msgboard.asp?id=202868&BID=WC&page=2#203592 (post #43)). You live in your country, I live in mine, right?

You can appreciate, then, the fruitlessness of repetitively critiquing values because they may not be shared in your own locale. I wasn't aware the Pledge itself was in question, only the 'under God' part.

You seem to see no need in national identity, we do. I value the Canadian perspective, but in the end it is just the Canadian perspective. We get a lot of that down here, and it tends to lack much applicable use. I equate Canada these days with the two old men in the balcony on The Muppet Show.



The 'brainwashing' stuff has been addressed, and is getting old.



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Ah, but do you really need that national identity, or have you been conditionned so, with things such as saying the pledge every day during all your childhood?

Maybe you live in the Matrix. Maybe you need the red pill.

Ah, but do you really give a crap, or does your sublimated national identity value ceaseless, lackadaisical heckling over your neighbor's fence? I heard someone say once that Canadians are so interested in the US because they don't have a nation of their own, lol. Current debate seems to back that up.




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Lets get back on topic.

here is some info on how this started and what is going on:

http://www.cnn.com/2002/LAW/06/26/pledge.allegiance/
http://www.cato.org/dailys/11-04-03.html
http://www.newsday.com/news/politics/wire/sns-ap-scotus-pledge,0,6974868.story?coll=sns-ap-politics-headlines

remember the movie miracle on 34th street. they let santa go because of the words on the dollar bill. i think the words should be changed to under santa since santa is at the north pole and obviously the usa is under the north pole.

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will the next-in-line proclaimer of of the phrase "propaganda and brainwashing" ( there have been many, yes?) please give us a break and a little variety and write "brainwashing and propaganda" ? that is, unless you've been brainwashed to always parrot the phrase in the preceding order.
thanks!

the USAF electronic warfare training school that trained me also trained canadian air force flyers. they started off taking 5 canadians per class, and quickly found that they had to have alternating classes: 5 french canadians in this class, 5 non-french canadians in the next class, etc.
these guys supposedly were part of the same air force. a little of our federalist unity wouldn't have hurt them a bit. ( at least they might have behaved a little more like adults).

sorry KG, i'm dead square off topic again. keep the pledge, and remove the words "under God" that were added later.

hehehe this is one crazy thread hahaha and I thought it was gonna be another tedious read

I haven't said the pledge since grade school and I don't want to have to try to figure out the year I graduated back in 74 and the only thing I was saying the pledge to back then was the clock at 3:49 pm "I pledge allegiance to the clock May your second hand be fast And may a time warp strike you soon so I can leave this class....

@ footsie

Bangkokboy, that you for illustrating my point. That's exactly what I meant. There is not Canadian unity anymore than there is a federation.  Nor do we want one.  Different strokes, like footsie said.  Your ways are strange to us, like our ways are strange to you I guess.

jafo - as to your new aussies only having to pledge once: if they change their mind, they've got a rather long swim.

BKB, F-111 or Wild Weasel?

Wild Weasel?....ah F105G....

F-111 Jammer
A6 also had a side seat JAFO

Why can't this issue be left to the individual school to decide?

in my school they used to do the pledge every morning, then moved it to only at Assembly.

In High school it was just at assembly.


The pledge of allegiance isn't really a 'pledge'. It is not that serious unless you are taking public office.

The under God reference to me is very general, was added for political reasons (and apparently will be removed for the same), and somewhat is more filler than a actual belief in God itself.



In God we Trust on money also is not a big deal. Notice credit card do not say In God We Trust.

I know I am over simplifying but I just feel this is not as big a deal as it is being made to be.

left mother mather with orders for the wild weasel squadron at khorat, thailand. a major with friends stole my assignment. i was offered choice of a "safe" assignment ( B-52H, Minot north dakota) or a combat assignment ( spectre gunships, ubon, thailand). in effect, i had to choose between being a stone's throw from vietnam and being a stone's throw from canada. decided that getting shot at for one year beat getting slowly frozen for four years. ( gunships draw less antiaircraft artillery fire than most other combat aircraft anyway, for obvious reasons).

did i forget to say the pledge this morning? ( does that query get me back on topic?)
jafo - the thuds still fly my screen periodically. thanks again for the art.