And sterilization should be incorporated. Especially for these crack smoking mothers who have six children to get welfare and the poor babies are born addicts with mental problems. One crack baby and she loses her ability to infect children and steal from society to support her drug habit.

What a nice stereotypical racist description!
Perhaps 'crack mothers' should be just 'eliminated' before they give birth?
"Hey! Guess what? You're a pregnant crack whore!! Bang!!"
Problem solved.
Maybe too many people are making too much money out of drugs for a real hard edged drive on the real source of the trouble?

The procedure as described by Karma (G'Day Angie!) is not unusual in a certain Asian country where the law allows one child only per 'family' .... but it is extreme.
More disturbing is the way female babies are not valued by the same society and often are eliminated at birth.

ChasUGC, ouch?

I would have never guessed.

*sigh*

I find it funny that Kona started this thing...and didn't really say a thing....Did you get what you needed, hummmm Kona?

I feel kinda sorry for you, that you need this kind of stuff to get off.

Wombat_1,

There was nothing racist in my remarks. Where did you hear a racist statement? Crack Mothers? They can be black or white. Real source of the problem? How about the crack smoking mothers? Or maybe you prefer that we support their habit so that they can give birth to more addicted babies with mental problems."eliminated" and "pregeant crack whore" are not words that I choose to use. I just don't think its right for society to continually have to pay for their drug use. Most of all, I don't think its right for their poor children to be born addicts. Did you ever see a newborn crying for drugs? It's sad.

And instead of trying to slam, attack and rile me, how about some positive solutions/contributions to the problem? Or is that not your intention.

Chas....I think your missing the point..heh duh! You are condeming the end result of crack...Mostly woman traped in it's addiction. Yeah, let's shot them, and our world will be pretty again! WTF? >
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Hmm. And maybe you have an idea of the real source of the problem. Since you don't seem to think it's those people who are making the money off the illegal drugs. If it's not the drug dealers, nor the crack mothers, the only thing left are the babies. Do you think its the babies who are at fault? Hmm.

China Cat,
Who said anything about shooting anyone? Not me. What's wrong with Sterilization of crack mothers who continually give birth to crack babies? Or maybe you have no sympathy for their babies and future babies who have to suffer serious withdrawals for nothing they have done wrong.

It's a matter of choice nothing more. "I'm addicted" so society and my babies have to pay for my addiction? No wash here. Society should not have to pay, nor should the babies. The poor babies, what did they do to deserve it?

haha you think the crack mom is making money?


you, must NOT have any children!

I find it funny that Kona started this thing...and didn't really say a thing....Did you get what you needed, hummmm Kona? I feel kinda sorry for you, that you need this kind of stuff to get off.

Well I started it to be a political discussion not a abortion one. I am staying out of this thread because my views on abortion would get me flamed just like others are getting flamed.

I don't get off on anything around here. In fact, if you notice, I have been very mellow and out of it lately.

I would like to add that I didn't appreciate your comment. Notwithstanding that, you are entitled to your opinion.

Back to lurking...

I'd like to throw 2 more cents in here if it's ok. I'm seeing a lot of people here that normally seem to enjoy the company of each other and this message board. Before you guys get too hard on each other lets try to remember.
1. This subject has been an extremely passionate subject for a HUGE part of the population for years.
2. There is a very clearly divided line on opinions concerning abortion.
3. Voicing your opinion is one thing, insisting others agree with your opinion is another.
4. It doesn't matter what the law on this subject will ever read, there will forever be opposition to it either way.
5.It's without question one of the most intensly passionate subjects that the human race will ever deal with and may never be resolved because of the nature of the question.

I just don't want to see any of the fine people here on wincustomize who are friendly with each other on a somewhat daily basis go away over something that may never have a definitive solution. I'm sorry if this is out of line, this is a wonderful website that Brad and Company have up here for us and I hate to see it become divided. Again, I apologize if I'm out of line here. Thank you very much.

Kona, you can't post a link to a controversial law that is about as touchy of a subject as abortion and expect it to be about politics.

If you wanted it to be about politics, you should have posted your political view about it.

 

5.It's without question one of the most intensly passionate subjects that the human race will ever deal with and may never be resolved because of the nature of the question.

Hey, there's worse. Wanna talk about cloning?

Eugenics for any reason, no matter how you wrap it up and present it is wrong, period in my opinion.

But after reflection I do not feel that is the perspective where ChasUGC is coming from with their comments.

Maybe as presented it leaves to much to question, but still it is a very vaild position with the structure of things as they have been in the past and the total contradictoin of how thye are presented today in the funding and support our government lends to USAID.

The issue is inter-twined with many other seemingly different topics which all fit into the same matrix. Illegal Immigration, Welfare, Homelessness, Foriegn Aid, National Laws and moral stance compared to National Foreign Aid Policy, Religion's (including Athiestisum and on down the spectrum), claims of National Security and many more that are not listed. But as I said, I do feel it is just as valid an position and one that should be looked at even if in the end it is found to be something that should never be taken up. As long as the question sit's out there un-ansered it breaths life and as long as it hold's life there is a possibility of it being realized.

So bashing it, denying it and or looking the other way do nothing more than to qwell it for the moment while leaving an opening for it to revive itself down the road.

How knows, there might be some very valid and positive things that could be brought out of such consideration if found to be something to never consider again.

Though, Chas did in fact structure the wording in such a way as to indicate a feeling that the Mentall Ill are not fit to be allowed the right to live based on the reasoning that they are an undue burden on society (eugenice is exactly what that position defines as presented and it is also something that was used to clear out all mental institutions and mentall ill people in Germany before WWII started and durring WWII)

anyway...

If we are going to start soemthing along this lines I vote we start with the IRS agents

well that was cute...

freaking sdc freaked out on me...

my fault and sorry about the burp
it's fixed...

someone dink the extras? please?

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well you know it would be nice if my damn spell and grammer checker worked in here...

Jafo is going to either have a field day or just ignore it out of disgust

Geez...All this talk about 'Crack' got IPlural a little excited

Just call me Jonesy



na, I tried to enable a macro to run a grammar and spell checker over top of SDC, and I also did not have my account updated correctly when I changed my WinC email address so it went blewy!!!! *ugh*

Jonesy

IP, I cleared up that last multiple post.

iespell doesn't work with WC anymore?

Thank you KarmaGirl

version 2 of iespell doesn't show up on the right click anymore

I'm going to try and figure out why, it might just be my systems configuration. If it is something common blocking it that others might run into I'll post a thred on what it took to fix it. If it is just how I have my system setup (it is locked down pretty tight) I will leave off on a thred and post if anyone else runs into it.

There was nothing racist in my remarks. Where did you hear a racist statement? Crack Mothers? They can be black or white. Real source of the problem? How about the crack smoking mothers?

1) I can pick a 'biased view' from several hundred paces.
2) Right, black, white or anything you like, however, crack is the drug of the poor and desperate, not the choice trendy yuppies.
3) Real source of the problem? Too many dealers at the bottom of the food chain being funded and protected by 'untouchables' in high places.
4) Perhaps a genuine drive on drugs by the US instead of bombing the crap out of third world countries would be in order.
5) People who resort to drugs are usually doing so out of desperation or lack of hope ..... and the US has the World's largest drug problem.
Analyse that. >
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paxx, I already answered the issue of cloning in post #30!

OH WAIT A MINUTE, I GET IT NOW!!!!

WAIT A MINUTE. THIS IS SO FUNNY.

No one is talking about sterilization of a race. That is silly. Think people think. What does it mean when a man or woman are sterile?
It means that they can no longer have babies. I'm talking about tying tubes, or having the Uterus removed. Similar to a male vasectomy. Removing the Uterus may seem a little harsh, but the babies are the ones who really suffer. And, we as society bear the burden. No one is talking Naziism here. I wouldn't know where to begin to become a racist. And, if you truly knew me, you would laugh at the thought. Sheesh, this is funny.