Windows 11 TPM requirements vs long term adoption rate

Sure it is.  Not a lot of options out there for the mainstream pc user, Mac of course, but Linux etc. is a bit of a hobby.  Besides, MS did their fair share of yanking around on Win10.

What it will probably kill is the near-term adoption rate, the time period before Win10 support ends.  Even if all my favorite software got updated for Win11 tomorrow, I'm still not going to run out and buy a new machine just to run 11.

As we have said in other topics dealing with Win 11 Hardware requirements ie.. The TPM, Secure Boot, Ram etc..

These requirements were BS to a lot of us, and seeing as we are now closer to the next Big Feature update 22H2, some of you who consider your own PC to still be well capable of running Win 11, but MS tell you NO. If you get yourself Rufus 3.16 and grab a Windows 11 from MS, or wherever you trust to provide your OS download, load it up in the normal way with a ISO and destination USB  Pen Drive, click Image Options and select from the dropdown list

"Extended Windows 11 Installation (No TPM, NO Secure Boot/8GB Ram)

Rufus will patch the USB Media Installation allowing you to Install Windows 11 and see if your Rig really is up to Win 11 specs, without jumping through MS Hoops. (I think more of you who can run Win 10 easily, will have no issues with Win 11)

Take the usual precautions you would do with any OS Installation, ie Back Up . This should make Windows 11 available to all who think there set up SHOULD be compatible, i know Rufus 3.18 is released, just have not checked it yet.

I have been trying to play wait and see before I commented any further. I do know that I have been concerned with Windows 11 adoption rate being stuck at 19 - 20 percent. The adoption rate was stuck there for 3 months straight after growing at a good rate. Unfortunately, I can not seem to find anything on adoption rate for the last two months. My favorite indicator has been using steam hardware analytics because the hardware is what it is, you can not finagle the data.

Since everyone pretty much reviews Windows 11 highly, the only logic is that the TPM requirements remain the culprit for slow adoption rates. For me, it is second nature to bypass TPM requirements. But for the majority of Windows owners, the thought doesn't even occur to them to bypass it.

My opinion is that Microsoft wants to push people into buying new software and has the patience to wait. They have a finished annual update right now but are holding off on releasing it until October. It would seem that this is because the annual updates are to further push hardware sales every single year. So they will be released every single year closer to the holiday season.

The strategy is probably good for Microsoft if they want to get further into hardware, but it will starve third party software companies a bit if in fact adoption rate screeches to a halt from January - October every year.

As i have said  numerous times, MS pushes things on users, and others Push back negating what they try. MS may wish to push sales of newer Hardware on users with all there stupid requirements, now at least our General users here, who may not have ever thought about trying Win 11, can actually do it Now with this work around. So many users including me who thought "My Set Up Is Still Relevant, Fast and useful.

Whatever MS try to push on us, including the latest "Must Have A MS Account To Install Windows 11 Crap", will be worked around just like everything else that was not popular, It All Starting with No Start Menu in Windows 8, bringing us right up to date, I know these things do Rattle some of our forum members, Me though, knows there is no need to worry as a fix will be just around the corner.

Hi, I'm my pc's Trusted Platform Module.   

Quoting Iben, reply 5

Hi, I'm my pc's Trusted Platform Module.   

 

Not sure what you are trying to say Iben?

Right on, Dave. Exactly my feelings.

Well now, you can make the decision to upgrade to Win 11 yourself if YOU not MS consider your specs good enough to run Win 11 and you do not meet MS Requirements, so no one should need to Run out and Buy a new Machine just to run Win 11.

We are entering a New Digital world with MS changing things (It Started with Win 8 Needing A Start Menu).

Every Bad decision MS has every Made since Win 8, Has Always Had A Method to reverse it, Negate it, putting things back to how The User prefers, and not how MS wants.

Not a Gambling Man but, I can not see this changing and would Bet, Every New Crap Change MS makes that users do not like , will always be Solved, including the Next "Need An Account To Set Up Win11". This is just the way of things.

Windows 8 is a great case and point.

For me, using Windows 8 with Start 8 was much better then using Windows 7. It was a simple fix that definitely turned Windows 8 into the superior option.

However, a simple fix or not, most people did not upgrade. Windows 8 adoption rate was even lower then Windows Vista. Steve Balmer got fired and Bill Gates had begun to get pushed out of his own company. 

This goes to show you that people who know how to fix their PC are pretty low percentage wise compared to the whole. 

Now that you mention it, Win8 had a similarity to Win11 in that Win8 had 2 specific CPU requirements (which I've forgotten other than it wasn't "speed"), and my processor at the time - again, not that old - didn't happen to have those.  I didn't buy a new machine then either.  At least I'm rather consistent in that regard.   

Seems sensible to me.   

I have never upgraded my PC just to get the latest OS myself. It really comes down to what I am actually using my PC for. If I wanted VR gaming, ray tracing, or heavy video editing I would probably upgrade my PC for those reason's. But it would never be just for the newest operating system.

As luck would have it, Now no one who thinks there PC is not too low spec to run Win 11, is limited to what MS actually tell them, it  SHOULD be .

No One has to upgrade their Hardware, or needs to buy a new Machine just for this OS because MS tells you too, all the choices are firmly back with the user as it should be.

So stop worrying about what you have been told to do by MS, or more so, what not to do by MS.

If YOU the user think your existing Machine should run Win 11 just fine due to the fact it runs Win 10 flawlessly or other reasons, then go for it.

We have debated the requirements for Win 11 in other topics, lots of you did not like those requirements and said, this is stupid or that is wrong etc and unnecessary, some have said they would like to give Win 11 a go but can not due to this MS reason or that MS reason and a few more If Only's.

This tool gives a user the ability to decide for themselves about Win11 PERIOD, and not what MS tells you.

Ok.

I have taken the plunge and gone Windows 11 22H2 on one of my 4 SSDs after first Running it on an old Laptop to check for any obvious issues. Managed to source an ISO of 22H2 Enterprise.

Installed it using the Rufus Method of Extended Windows Installation hence no need for TPM, Secure Boot or all the other MS "You Must Haves". I am also starting to see resourceful peeps have started to add "No MS Account Needed" into the same method used for the HW Requirements on Rufus and other methods as i always said would happen. I did not have this updated Rufus when i did the install, so i had to go another way. MS offers two methods, either use a MS account to complete install as a Home user, (something none of us wants to do). I chose the School or organisation method as this still lets you "Join a Domain" so no signing in to a MS account, which gives you a Local Account with Full Admin  Privs.

MS had released an update yesterday, at first had an issue with it, but as in all things Computer, i sorted it, this gives you the new and latest Win 11 Build 22621.105.

Still putting it through it's paces trying to make sure there are no issues, nothing really of any import to say. The update did stop my Theme from working, but it was StartAllBack that needed updating as older editions are not compatible with 22H2, but the StartAllBack makers are well ahead on this and have released updates several times since Win 11 was released, matching any changes in the OS. Also Malwarebytes Anti Spy also needs to be updated too, same reason.

So all in all no worries, just as i said, Any worrying articles that have been posted about HW Requirements and the need to use a MS account, have just like i said, been solved.

Not that it is needed, but.

The github community is doing very well. It seems like they have an answer for everything.

I think anyone that is privacy concious will find a good solution when updating to Windows 11.

Started a new topic   to hopefully allow more users to see how it is done mate.

https://forums.wincustomize.com/513062/page/1/#3855900

I always said every unpopular change made by MS will be brought back to realms of us mere mortals, that is not going to change any time soon. Seeing more and more Privacy Tools being released to help users make there Win 11 more Data secure in there favour and not MS. The resources available to us all these days on the net, no reason , not to have a more secure OS.

Github, Reddit, Forums etc...   all have brilliant ways to move forward, i like to wear many Hats mate and when possible , to share that info with other like minded peeps. Both my Win 11 SSDs have now gone 22H2, i had to change the Command Ribbon on my everyday Machine(or SSD) as i did find a little bug, but once that was done all is well, used them for full shifts in work, here and my own forum, doing all the usual things in my day, glad to say everything is working without issue. My Themes are working OK, so a good few days. I did think starting this path, I hope it does not mess up my Multi Booting System, it didn't, the only thing that did change was the Volume Number of the SSD i did first. Due to my Mild Vascular Parkinsonism Dementia, i have to have the Drive Volume Numbers listed on a piece of paper stuck to my Monitor so at a glance i can tell one from the other, obviously one is set as Default to always Start, but the other 3 never really stick in the mind, but bhey Ho, we all have our ways of doing things. 

Sorry to hear of your trouble, but I hope you're not doing that with pw's, naroon1. There are plenty of excellent pw managers to help...even for folks without medical problems.

No Doc, only so i can see at a glance. If say i want to boot into one of my Win 10 SSDs, i have a window that comes up at the start showing all Windows OSs i have the option to Boot too. The default SSD, (My everyday Win 11) starts automatically after 4 seconds, if i want one of the others, i have to just move the mouse and the screen holds until i click the OS i want to Boot into. Just used the BCDBOOT Command to set it up.

I would never rely on passwords on paper, oh no no.

My Condition was diagnosed very early, so i am at the very first stage, I have to take a test each year to prove i can still drive etc.. I am under NO illusions, this is going to Kill me as in the future my body will forget more than just memories, like swallowing food. Far Too Much Head Trauma in Africa and Yugoslavia maybe, but forgetting some of the Terrible things i have seen in War Zones will be welcome, one of my biggest possible fears would be blurting out some of those things in civilised company. What Soldiers need to do in these places, does not mix well, even though we all know what happens in War and understand what the Military has do to keep us all safe, people who have never lived in that kind of world, seldom understand, and they may look at you with strange eyes.

I have been told, with all the changes i have already made, i may be able to hold it off for several years yet, once it is fully blown, i will have around 7 years, then goodbye Naroon, (not soon enough some will say). When i enter that period, i will close down all my Online accounts, Pass my Forum over to my Team, get a more comfy LazyBoy and a man size Bib.

What Do We Say To The Vascular Dementia God?

Not Today.

The answer to that very old question....

"How would you like to be remembered?"

"He died at a very old age." ...;)

In the end, we all die of something...hopefully painlessly, and in our sleep...the best way to go.

As my old friend Webgizmos once said, "Hey...where's X...he was here a minute ago."

I know what you mean about the looks you might get from people who never served...at least here in Israel, it's rather different, and service is mostly a matter of pride. You'd never get that look from me. "Thank you for your service" is what you'd hear, and feel.   

I have only just got Win 11 22H2 how i like it using The Rufus Method, so no plan to sit and drool in that LazyBoy just yet.

Jafo, my Legacy will be what i have Achieved Fighting In Africa, Many Lives saved .My Online Legacy will be my Forum.

Doc, i had no Idea you Live in Israel. I have the Utmost Respect for your people and Country, During all my time Fighting in Africa, Our Medic was an Israeli Woman, I Loved her very much as a Brother . Out of all of us, She was the Bravest, Never ever seen her scared, and she was The Most Human. She was 5 feet 4 inches tall, taught some of us Krav Maga, and Kicked our Arses on a regular Basis, You Were IDF Doc, Respect ! She Was The Best Of Us.

Thanks, naroon1. Glad you had a good medic! 

Take care of yourself. Frequently we are surprised by a far more generous fate than we were given to expect...I hope you'll be blessed that way, and with the Community here to support you.

She was the Best Of The Best Doc.

Thank You Very Much Doc, I do not feel Blessed living with this, But i know i am due to the life i have lived and the people who have been part of that life.