I guess I don't understand... Maybe someone can tell me the secret to updating Object Desktop, Microsoft Security Updates etc. and not having to reboot. I'd love to leave my computer on all the time. Please explain how to DL security updates without a rebot.

There is no secret because it's not possible. EVERY Microsoft security patch that I can remember over the last several years requires a reboot.

I'm curious...why would you love to leave your computer on all the time?

#51 I know you can't DL the updates with out a reboot....
I was just curious in seeing possible answers as they pertain to security issues.
And no.. I don't leave my computer on.... It's shut down every night, If it puts additional strain on it so be it. Perhaps my sarcasm evades you.

Right over my head...

I don't remember the last time I rebooted my home machine (On XP home).  The last time I know for sure was when we had that huge electric outage.  When I typically reboot is when I updated something or I did something stupid and needed to reboot.

#53 I just wish the fish bit as easy ...

I never ment for it to be understood that turning a computer on damages it. I was referring to system shock and its relation to circuitry tolerance. A similar way of looking at it would be comparing it to speakers - speakers give you an amp rating and a true RMS rating - the amp rating tells you what the speaker can take for a moment while the true RMS rating tells you what the speaker can take for a continuous length of time. So how does this relate - if you have a computer with a circuit, that for whatever reason was manufactored weak but still passed, then it is more likely to fail if you turn your computer on and off excessively, not that it will fail. And so that is what I was trying to convey. As for my belief as to what proceedure should be followed, I do believe as Orion had to say, it is just a matter of what you feel is appropriate. But when businesses ask for my technical expertise on the matter I usually suggest that they leave the computer on Mon thru Fri and do a warm boot in the morning.

Heat cycling of circuits will add to the potential fail rate.....and fretting of blade contacts.....ever wondered why ram banks have clips on them?....

MTBF Mean Time Between Failures

excerpt from Saegate data (pdf)

" The production disc drive achieves an MTBF of 1,200,000 hours when operated in an environment that ensures the case temperatures specified in Section 6."

1,200,000 hours is the life expectancy of this paticular hard drive run under optimal installation and considtions.

some feel that shutting a drive down and then spinning it up actually reduces the MTBF because of mechanic wear and tear...

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security patches and patches in general should be looked over and a choice should be made to apply it. Microsoft and others release security patches that end up putting more holes in the software than the point it was at when they told you they had something to patch...

Blaster for instance, they came out with patch and created a new hole...

SQL Server, they created critical security patches to cure one security hole that in the end added 3 even more serious security holes...

anyone who just lets MS Update run then apply automatic updates will, *will* learn at some point in time that you should be selective and *you* should make the choice of what you wish installed on your system(s)...

Still refuse to install 811493...