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The RIAA sees the face of evil, and it's a 12-year-old girl
By Ashlee Vance in Chicago
Posted: 09/09/2003 at 13:54 GMT


The RIAA has nailed one of the most prolific file-traders in the U.S., filing a lawsuit against 12-year-old Brianna LaHara.

When not at the playground with her friends, "Biggie Brianna" is trading music files from her home in New York. The little girl received one of the 261 lawsuits filed by the RIAA (Recording Industry Association of America) on Monday, according to the New York Post. She may look like a sweet and innocent child, but the RIAA says it's only going after major copyright violators at the moment. So you make the call.

"I got really scared. My stomach is all turning," Brianna told the Post. "I thought it was OK to download music because my mom paid a service fee for it. Out of all people, why did they pick me?"

It turns out that Brianna's mum paid a $29.99 service charge to kazaa for the company's music service. Brianna, however, thought this meant she could download songs at will. How naive!

When reporters charged into Brianna's home, she was helping her brother with some homework. She is an honors student at St. Gregory the Great school.

Brianna could face charges of up to $150,000 per infringed song, but we have a feeling this might be a tad unrealistic. We suggest the RIAA take all of her toys instead.

"Nobody likes playing the heavy and having to resort to litigation," RIAA president Cary Sherman said in a statement. "But when your product is being regularly stolen, there comes a time when you have to take appropriate action."

Go get her, Cary. ®


http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/32731.html
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Reply #27 from WinCustomize Forums Top
I meant to say exactly to what Sirius said, but I still get lost in these paged threads... hehe
The Political Machine 2024
Reply #28 from WinCustomize Forums Top
You mean that you didn't read what I said and replied within 2 seconds?
Reply #29 from WinCustomize Forums Top
hehe Java
I looked at what he said and typed and when I looked back up I seen I was under you on a diff page?
I cannot get use to these paged thingies stillll hehe
(but getting more used to it now)
Reply #30 from WinCustomize Forums Top

I'm sorry but Napster, Kazaa and illegal music piracy has been all over the news for the past 3 years. Everybody knows it's illegal but everybody think they can still get away with it.
Even if the girl didn't know that downloading 5000 songs was illegal (yes she apparently was one of the top MP3 downloaders in the country and that's why they picked her), her mother certainly knew, and she still let her kid do it.

No, this is definately a case of "Honey, just say that you didn't know it was illegal because you are just 12, ok?"
Heck, for all we know, it could have been the mother who downloaded all that ans is trying to get off the hook by blaming a inocent 12 year old who didn't know what she was doing.  Or most likely they were both doing it.

But don't forget ignorance of the law is not an excuse.

Reply #31 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Thank you Paxx!! About she knew it was illegal. The whole family was getting music .

What is this deal with the service fee?? What does it do? Kazaa is free. And who installed it? You know. The mother thinking it was legal (yeah right she didn't know)? Or the daughter who is smart enough to go get it and install it but not smart enough to know what she is doing is illegal (or at least know about it like Paxx said). Cmon now.


In any case, the RIAA gets the money and not the artists!! Go figure.

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Reply #32 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Just because they were able to install the software does not mean that they knew that even after paying for Kazaa Plus, that it was still illegal. Think of all those people who install AOL and know nothing about computers. There are still many people out there who know very little about computers except AOL and Office and I could see people actually thinking that paying for Kazaa would give them the license to legally download what they desire.
If that family fit that category of people, then I think punishing them as if they were another group of pirates would be terrible. Ignorance is not an excuse to break the law, but it's not like anybody was physically harmed, and the damage can be reversed simply by deleting all illegal files and CDs.



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Reply #33 from WinCustomize Forums Top
yeah yeah listen to Sirius hehe

And yes ignorance of the law is no excuse but it could have been the "reason" Paxxy...
Reply #34 from WinCustomize Forums Top
To quote someone else:

The girl (well the girl's family) settled the suit against her for $2000. The RIAA wanted to be shed of this one quick due to all the bad press. The girl probably could have held out for $500. No time to do a link, but it's on yahoo's front page right now.
Reply #35 from WinCustomize Forums Top
The DJ: why hold out?
She's from the upper east side of manhattan
her parents probably have mad psycho lawyers and threatened to trash the RIAA into oblivion for it.

Parents were probably like "now honey... you can't get the BMW 323IS anymore... you can only have the BMW 323i"
Reply #36 from WinCustomize Forums Top
I didn't say it, I quoted someone else from another forum.
Reply #37 from WinCustomize Forums Top
i admit i do dl music but i don't exactly just "steal" it because usually if i hear a song i like i'll end up buying the album. if i really don't like the song i delete just because it's a waste of hard drive space. if u know what i'm saying there are certain little ways that it helps the RIAA. besides even if they get rid of p2p people could still rip an mp3 to their computer and then stick that file on a zip disk or burn it onto a cd and give to someone. i'd also have to say that they shouldn't just completely get rid of p2p because it's not just music that's shared on there.
Reply #38 from WinCustomize Forums Top
if you use kazaa you are part of the problem.

stealing is stealing!
Reply #39 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Here's a link for the settlement

"We understand now that file-sharing the music was illegal,"



The family lives in a city housing project on New York's Upper West Side, and they said they mistakenly believed they were entitled to download music over the Internet because they had paid $29.99 for software that gives them access to online file-sharing services.



http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=501&u=/ap/20030909/ap_on_en_mu/downloading_music_11&printer=1
Reply #40 from WinCustomize Forums Top
One thing I dont get is...What is this $29.99 service fee? Anyone can d/load kazaa lite (Or any other P2P proggy such as iMesh) for free and not pay a cent...
Reply #41 from WinCustomize Forums Top
One thing I dont get is...What is this $29.99 service fee? Anyone can d/load kazaa lite (Or any other P2P proggy such as iMesh) for free and not pay a cent...


That's what I don't understand. If they honestly knew that they could get things for free, why would they pay for it?



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Reply #42 from WinCustomize Forums Top
That's what I've been asking! Searched though:

It is Kazaa Plus:

You can now 'Search More' up to 15 times depending on your Participation Level. Fifteen 'Search Mores' allow you access to up to 3,000 results per search.

New Search Agent functionality allows "scheduled" searches over 24 hours.

Downloads from multiple sources from 8 to 40 sources resulting in faster automatic downloads.

Customize your homepage within Kazaa Plus 'Web' view.


You can adjust scan frequency for My Kazaa allowing you to control how often your shared files are scanned.

Limit uploads according to other users Participation Level so only users with a certain Participation Level can download your shared files.

Access to 24 Hour Customer Support by email.

5 new Kazaa Plus skins.



http://www.kazaaplus.com/
Reply #43 from WinCustomize Forums Top
I am so fed up with this whole RIAA thing, if you think about it they would have to charge every one including them selves and there parents for illegally stealing music, and movies. If you think about it, didn’t you as kids have friends that bought a new cassette tape and ask them to borrow it to make a copy of it or have them do it for you? And didn’t you or your parents put a VCR tape in and tape a movie off your TV? The only thing different about it today in this day and age is that with the invention of the home computer it is done faster.
Reply #44 from WinCustomize Forums Top
I agree Dreamdesign3d, I think this whole RIAA thing is a bit far reaching and way out of hand. They are "big brother" in a sense.What gets me, is that they are talking about hacking ppl to see what they are uploading and downloading. How is hacking ok in that instance when they are busting ppl all over for similar things? And dropping the prices on cd's by 2 bucks?? Thats a f!@#$%g joke. Why go and pay 14+ dollars for a piece of plastic, when you have ISP's,etc, sending them to you for FREE all the time? lol >
Reply #45 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Im not saying anything...For Once
Reply #46 from WinCustomize Forums Top
#43 by Dreamdesign3d - 9/9/2003 9:48:16 PM
I am so fed up with this whole RIAA thing, if you think about it they would have to charge every one including them selves and there parents for illegally stealing music, and movies. If you think about it, didn’t you as kids have friends that bought a new cassette tape and ask them to borrow it to make a copy of it or have them do it for you? And didn’t you or your parents put a VCR tape in and tape a movie off your TV? The only thing different about it today in this day and age is that with the invention of the home computer it is done faster.


Yep Thats true..My parents should go to jail..They tape one channel while watching another...
Reply #47 from WinCustomize Forums Top
And didn’t you or your parents put a VCR tape in and tape a movie off your TV? The only thing different about it today in this day and age is that with the invention of the home computer it is done faster


That and it was legal.

And dropping the prices on cd's by 2 bucks?? Thats a f!@#$%g joke. Why go and pay 14+ dollars for a piece of plastic, when you have ISP's,etc, sending them to you for FREE all the time?


I know exactly what you mean. That's why whenever anybody asks what's a decent price for a CD, I say $0.00. The same actually goes for everything else, thanks to my five-finger discount!



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Reply #48 from WinCustomize Forums Top
hey I might get arrested! when i was in high school I used a word from the dictonary. I put that word on a paper that belonged to me. The dictonary belonged to the school. I copied it.

I ripped the work of another!


hahahahah

Of course the RIAA can kiss my ......
oh nevermind.
Reply #49 from WinCustomize Forums Top
I think it's sad, the illegal downloading wont stop.

Just look at the price's they take in Europe I lived in the Netherlands they are very expensive. I recently saw a collectors DVD from Shrek it would cost € 39,99
(€ is a little more than a US $) That is way to expensive!!

The music is around € 30. The say they cant lower the prices because the tax wouldn't get enough money.

So It's funny they lower prices in the USA and try to get rid off illegal downloads and over here they are trying to do the same.

ps. in the Netherlands they charge € 1 on empty dvd's because of the copyright? Don't ask my why If I make a video and burn this one on a DVD why do I have to pay € 1, Since the € goes to the Dutch RIAA I can burn what ever I want because I paid the moment I bought the empty DVD! Just my opinion.

Ordering DVD over the net from Australia is 50% cheaper than buying them here, no need to go to a store! How can this be, I'll get more extra's and shipping included how come this is cheaper the stores in the country?

Just a bit to think.
Shadow
Reply #50 from WinCustomize Forums Top
'Five finger discount' is the same as souping your car up via 'Midnight Autos'....[the auto shop that is open at midnight....namely the new/used car lots]...still bloody illegal though....the word is 'theft'....