Sadly, there are some fake thumb drives floating around on Wish.... usually the ones claiming to be 1TB - 2TB.  As to where they originated, I don't know, but I'd advise to steer clear of them  From my experience, the majority of sellers on there are reputable and don't deal in such things.  I purchased a couple of 128GB and 256GB ones that were okay, capacity-wise, etc.

Thanks for that.  I just didn't want to be posting links and getting complaints for spamming.  Thing is, Wish sells all sorts of things: from kitchenware, clothing; decor and electronics, but my interest is in their PC parts and thought others may also be interested.  However, a particular search for 'Computer Parts' may not always reveal everything PC related.  Many a time I've had to search do a separate for 'PCIE and accessories; other times it's for fans and lighting, and then for computer cables and cabling accessories.   Even then it's not exact, with follow up searches revealing additional/new products and sellers.

I am such a naughty boy, but I'm blaming Willistuder 100% for putting NVMe M.2 SSD thoughts into my head.  It's all his fault because I'm a victim to my own weak will and being a sucker for new tech people tell me about.  Frankly, he should never have mentioned NVMe M.2s to me... AT ALL!!!!!!!!

No, not at all, cos now I've gone and busted the budget wide open with the purchase of  an Adata 512GB XPG Gammix S10 M.2 NVMe SSD.  It replaces the Crucial 525GB NGFF M.2 I was going to use, but now that one can go back in the Intel machine.

Truth is, I'd already exceeded the budget with purchases of accessories and etc.... not to mention another 16GB of RAM to boost me up to 48GB.  Couldn't afford to get another 2 x16GB, so I bought 2 x 8GB of the same Corsair 2666MHz RAM that I already have.  That should do it.... right.

BTW, Willistuder, thanks for the tip.... it will help boost overall performance.    

did you hear about an intel flaw that'll supposedly make all intel cpu from the last 10 years or so 5-30% slower when fixed in os (well.. ok.. more like the fix will slow down the os)

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/01/02/intel_cpu_design_flaw/

https://hothardware.com/news/intel-cpu-bug-kernel-memory-isolation-linux-windows-macos

heck.. i had to flash my bios last month to get the ime fix.. though i suppose you could call that an upside because i hadn't flashed that bios ever (2 odd years ish)

Yup, I've read about it here and there.  I doesn't gel to well for Intel, does it?   It seems my decision to go with an AMD Ryzen was a good one.

Still a work in progress, but here are some pics of the beastie thus far...

As you can see, I have not begun with the cabling or inserted the RAM as yet.   The cabling is waiting on bits n' pieces I ordered from Wish to tidy it up better, and the RAM is awaiting the other two sticks I ordered a few days back.  According to the tracking it should arrive tomorrow [06.01.18], and the 512GB NVMe SSD should arrive on Monday [09.01.18].

Yeah, this build is taking a while, but I've changed my mind a few times and ordered things late in the piece, and being some of it is coming from China and has to clear Customs, it'll take a while.  I keep thinking to myself that I could have organised things better, but oh well, it is what it is and I can wait.

Looks good so far. Taking time to do cable management is worth it in the long run. Looking forward to seeing the completed build.

yay.. amd bug disclosed. hide your motherboards

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/01/06/amd_cpu_psp_flaw/

Thanks!  And yes, cable management should never be the haphazard mess I see in a lot of peoples computers.  I've had various ones with cables hanging everywhere ask why it matters when nobody is going to see it.  I always reply 'well what about better airflow'?  Besides, it's a pride thing for me.  If I know things are a mess in there I'm not going to be happy with my work.

One of the things I've ordered to assist with cable management is a roll of that stretchy braided cable cover similar to that on PSUs.  I figured that would be useful for multiple SATA cables and the like.  There will be 22 - 24 SATA cables all up, and I want them to be tidy, not to cut off airflow too much.  There's other accessories coming as well, like self-adhesive cable clamps, heat shrink and other cable covers, extra fans and dust filters, etc.

Yeah, me too!  The hard bit is waiting for the parts, not being able to add much to it.  I saved a few things so I could work a little on it each day, but shoot, I'm running out of stuff to do.  Yup, should definitely have organised things better.

It doesn't sound that serious, though.  Apparently, an attacker would have to have physical access to the target machine; hence it doesn't concern me.  Nobody but me, and I mean NOBODY, touches my machine. 

Sometimes, though, I have to wonder about these people sitting around looking for flaws and vulnerabilities in this, that and everything.  Just about every day you can look on the internet and read that something is bad for you.  It wasn't 40 - 50 years ago, but it is now.   Then there's all the things Yahoo says we're doing wrong.  I've been peeling potatoes the same way without a problem for 50 years or so, yet according to a recent story on Yahoo, I'm doing it all wrong.  Like WTF?

As for these so-called engineers constantly finding flaws in CPUs and other PC related items, maybe there are some genuine concerns, but is there a need to alarm the public over issues that barely constitute a real threat, like this AMD one.   The Intel flaw sounds more serious, yes, but if it has existed un-patched for the last 10 or more years, and hackers, etc, hadn't discovered/exploited it before now, maybe they can't [it takes the higher expertise of an Intel engineer] and there's not a lot to worry about?

In other words, we're sent so many insignificant alarm bells/false alarms that it's hard to know what is or isn't a real threat.  And what amuses me is what food is now bad for us: one weeks it's potatoes; another it's rice; the next week it's red meat; a month later it's white meat and or fish.  Then there's all the tinned and bottled stuff.  If we took note of every food crackpot there is we'd eat eff all and die.

And the next person who tells me I'm peeling a banana all wrong, well I'm gonna shove it up his..... uh, where the sun don't shine.

it was a jokey comment. just saying there's kinda no point deciding whether to go intel/amd based on security... as they will all eventually be found to be crap.

... what do you mean peeling banana.. just wait for the banana skin wedge craze.

At this point AMD seems to be the better off, but my decision to go with AMD had nothing to do with the recent security issues, though I'm glad I did.  Apart from liking AMD processors, my decision left me with money to buy the accessories and extras I've ordered.  Had I gone with a similarly rated Intel CPU I doubt very much I would have had any left over after the CPU, 32GB of Ram and a mobo.

Oh it was a story on Yahoo saying we've been peeling bananas all wrong.  Frankly, I don't see too many ways of doing it, so I'm stumped as to how we've all been doing it wrong.  I dunno, maybe it's how we protrude our bottom lip during the unzipping.

We all peel them down from the top stem.  It's really easier to turn them upside down and peel them down from the bottom, especially if they're a little green, don't squish up the meat as much.  Ya, I eat a lot of bananas...   

I did the same thing when I purchased my i7 4970K... because it was the best and fastest at the time.  However, now my AMD Ryzen 1700 will beat it right across the park.... without overclocking.  And that 'one error' is pretty much non-existent, given direct physical access must be gained to exploit it.  Yeah, like I'm going to invite a hacker in and say 'go ahead, fech with my computer'

My point is, it doesn't matter which end you peel a banana from, it's going to be a damned banana and taste just the same.  And even if you cut it in half and peel it from the middle, it'll still taste like a damned banana.  I mean, so long as it is edible, who gives a flying fech how the damned banana is peeled?  And I sure as hell don't need some so-called expert telling me how to peel a friggin' banana, wipe my bum or suck eggs.

Not that I've got the cabling accessories yet, but just to get an idea of how it'd look when done, I thought I'd plug the power cables into the motherboard and add the SATA and other cables.  Well it's not going to be quite as tidy as the other build, given the all additional parts and cables, but at least now I have a better idea of how everything will come together.

As for using some IDE drives, well I changed my mind and it will now be an all SATA affair, doing away with the ugly IDE data cable and making cable management that much easier.   I also purchased a PCIE 10 port SATA adapter, so I didn't have to use the two PCI 4 port ones via the PCIE adapter.  I just figured that if I'm building a new machine, I need to be installing modern tech, not old.  No, I'll find other homes for that instead.

The Adata M.2 SSD and additional RAM turned up today[Mon 08.01.18], as well as a PCIE USB 3.1 adapter, so now I have all the major components and am just waiting on the other fans and cabling accessories, etc.

It's coming together slowly but surely.  However, I do have a question.  I have installed the 2 x 16GB sticks in the A1 and B1 slots, and the 2 x 8GB sticks in the B1 and B2  slots.  That just seemed logical and various articles suggest that is the way to do it, but how about a stick of each, making it 24GHz per channel?   Would it make any difference to performance either way?  I read somewhere that Intel CPUs read the first two channels first, but this is AMD and I've not seen anything to suggest it is the same.

if you are going for dual channel, you have to install them as pairs (bigger pair 1st), no?

not sure what you mean 1 stick of each making 24ghz per channel.

googling gives this random quote..

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-3453470/motherboard-dimm-slots-supports-dual-channel.html

"The extra two slots just allow for more ram to be address even though it is still only dual channel. The problem with populating all dimms with Ryzen is the fastest ram speed you can get is 2400mhz (actually even intel has issues with ram speed when you populate 4 slots on a dual channel chip or 8 slots on a quad channel chip). If you only populate 2 dimms on Ryzen you can get over 3000mhz out of your ram."

might also be useful - 1 stick vs 2 sticks

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/62pcbe/does_single_vs_dual_channel_ram_dimm_config/

Install 1 stick of 16GB in A1 and a stick of 8GB in B1, then repeat the process with B1 and B2.  Thing is, according to what I've read, I have it configured correctly anyhow, so I'll leave it at that.

Yeah, I read that somewhere, but I also read that full speed can be attained with a change in the BIOS.  Guess I'll have to look further into that.

Actually, it wouldn't be 24GB.  I currently have 32GB in the first 2 DIMMs, and 16GB in the second 2.  As for the 600mhz offset, I understand there is a BIOS adjustment that allows full access to all 4 sticks at full speed.   I just have to find it.  And yeah, opting not to use the old tech made better sense and will not slow things down.  I do have another machine that I can use that stuff in, however, so it won't go to waste.

Well I've come up against my first snag.  I cannot find a screw with a small enough thread to hold the M.2 SSD in place.  I have nothing in my PC toolbox that'll fit, so I'm up schitts creek without a paddle unless I can come up with one from somewhere..... and the mobo manual isn't of any help to determine the size/thread required, so it'll be a matter of pot luck, me thinks.

Sadly, I have no idea where to begin to look.  

The correct screw size is 2.0 x 3mm (CM2x3-3.3).

If you are in the USA, then you can usually find the screws at Ace Hardware stores. Make sure you check the length. Some of the screws at hardware stores are too long. 

I've also seen them available at Amazon. They were advertised as replacement screws for M.2 ssd's.

Mod DIY has them too:

http://www.moddiy.com/categories/Screws-%26-Bits/M2-%7C-2mm-Screws-(Notebook-Screws)/

Google is your fiend....;)

Thanks for heads up on that, much appreciated..  

It looks like a will have to buy some, though.  I looked through 3 compartmentalised containers full of screws, nails, nuts, bolts and washers, etc, but not a single one for what I need.  However, rather than order online, I will likely just walk 5 mins to the PC shop and see if they have some.  Other than that, there's another PC shop about 10 mins walk away.

Oh how I'm blessed, living within the Ipswich City limits.  Everything I/we need is within walking distance, yet it is so quiet in the street we live.

As for an online search, that was my next stop after searching my screw selection for something that'd fit.

Well I got the M2 screws last week down at the local PC shop, 24 for 3 bucks.  So, the M.2 SSD and RAM have been installed, and some of the cable management stuff arrived yesterday and I've made some more progress.  Take a look below....

So that's it for now, though I will connect the power cables to the front-end devices tomorrow and start cable management in the back panel area.  There's a whole mess of cables behind there to sort out so it's going to take a while, and then, if I can see a way to do something better, I'll change my mind and do that/those bits again.

I just hope the pics turn out okay.  I took them on my Windows 8 Phone and was holding the additional lighting myself, so I guess we'll see, eh.   More importantly, I hope they show what I wanted, given it's hard to tell during the upload process.

EDIT: Nah, they didn't upload too well.  To view the pics in their entirety, right click on the pics then 'View Image'