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I have some feedback regarding having some "key feedback" posts pinned.

(My next post will have the full details.)

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Reply #26 Top

Quoting SavageMind1, reply 25

DEVS Thanks, you don't owe me a damn thing but a game sometime in the next fiscal year. Message me an email I can submit my feedback to and I will stay off this forum and away from this madness and the all knowing, always right, legendary (in their own mind) game masters that populate this forum. Thanks.    

I vote for this option too. If we aren't going to use these forums to have a continual influx of new information from the developers, a monthly Google survey form would suffice.

Otherwise, we are going to sit here for 21 days grinding our gears.

 

Quoting SavageMind1, reply 25

I tried to participate in conversations by offering my opinions and was promptly told I was wrong for my opinions by members of this community.

This is the fourth or fifth time you mentioned this. You must not participate in forums very often. Here. This might help.

And FWIW, I am sorry if it seemed like it was personal when I told you that you were wrong.

Reply #27 Top

You shouldn't patronize him about that. I feel his pain. Probably, you do too.

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Reply #28 Top

[quote who="IBNobody" reply="26" id="3653772"]

This is the fourth or fifth time you mentioned this. You must not participate in forums very often. Here. This might help.
 
 
At one time I did and even moderated forums on more than one occasion. I really don't need lessons in forums or psychology. I've taken my share or psychology and sociology courses, thanks. It is plain in simple there is clear misconception of the purpose of THIS particular forum among the community. The point of this forum is to give the devs constructive feedback they can gauge their progress against the common consensus.  The devs don't even have enough done in any aspect to really gauge anything but "How's it look so far?" The worst part about it is, that some of the community claims to be in the business at one time or another and are the worst culprits. If you understand the point of view of the devs then why are you (not you in particular) wasting their time? They read EVERYTHING. Do you like what you see? Can you read what is presented without eye strain? Does this make sense to you as a fan? Is there something you would like to see that is practical for us to do? These types of questions should be answered HERE because we have the privilege of being here. That is my opinion and I frankly don't think I'm far from the truth on the matter. I made the mistake and take responsibility for stepping into purely social posts, when I knew better. It has made me bitter about even conversing with any of this community. Hopefully there will be adjustments to this forum soon.
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Reply #29 Top

This is true. Again, I think a lot of this could be avoided with a change in structure. This has been mentioned before, but you'll notice there's considerably less squabbling in the first few days after content is shown, and far more constructive feedback. I'm particularly in favor of more frequent small updates.

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Reply #30 Top

I think this would work better than the current system:

 

Stardock creates a thread with a picture, video, music or whatever and asks a question. We discuss the presented material.

Do it weekly or bi-weekly if super busy. How long can it possibly take to make a post?.. 1 (ONE) post a week or 2 Bi-weekly. Does it make sense?

Everything will be organized from the get go and Stardock will have full control on format of the threads.

And month-end updates aren't even needed.

I understand the need of archiving stuff to keep the track of updates, but how crucial is it and why not just archive the whole discussion thread into PDF later on?..

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Reply #31 Top

Quoting SavageMind1, reply 28

At one time I did and even moderated forums on more than one occasion. I really don't need lessons in forums or psychology.

Ok, but you bring up that bitterness a lot. Part of giving feedback is accepting the fact that people will think you are wrong. It's apparent that you DO care if people criticize your ideas, because you always are quick to remind us that only the dev's opinions matter. You need to take what you are saying to heart. And if I am off-base, consider that this is how I am seeing you present your opinion. (Much like how you think I have an entitlement complex.)

Quoting Hunam_, reply 30

Stardock creates a thread with a picture, video, music or whatever and asks a question. We discuss the presented material.

To take this a step further, a Q&A session would be helpful. There are some things that we are asked to give feedback on that it is difficult to do without asking questions to frame the context. The answers don't have to be immediate - they could be delayed an update cycle.

 

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Reply #32 Top

Quoting SavageMind1,


At one time I did and even moderated forums on more than one occasion. I really don't need lessons in forums or psychology.



Ok, but you bring up that bitterness a lot. Part of giving feedback is accepting the fact that people will think you are wrong. It's apparent that you DO care if people criticize your ideas, because you always are quick to remind us that only the dev's opinions matter. You need to take what you are saying to heart. And if I am off-base, consider that this is how I am seeing you present your opinion. (Much like how you think I have an entitlement complex.)

Quoting Hunam_,

Stardock creates a thread with a picture, video, music or whatever and asks a question. We discuss the presented material.



To take this a step further, a Q&A session would be helpful. There are some things that we are asked to give feedback on that it is difficult to do without asking questions to frame the context. The answers don't have to be immediate - they could be delayed an update cycle.

 
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In the words of Ric Flair...... :rofl:

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Reply #33 Top

More pinned post feedback...

 

I always want to hide them. Too bad, like many things with this forum, that the setting to keep the window tab collapsed isn't saved across sessions.

 

Why do I want to hide them? Having 3478912634782693 sticky messages take up too much space, and I hate having to scroll past them or hide them to get to the good stuff.

Reply #34 Top

“What we wish, we readily believe, and what we ourselves think, we imagine others think also.” - Julius Caesar

 

Reply #35 Top

Quoting Kavik_Kang, reply 34

“What we wish, we readily believe, and what we ourselves think, we imagine others think also.” - Julius Caesar

 

Empirical evidence suggests otherwise. 

Reply #36 Top

I guess my issue is more that there's too many Pinned threads that the entire top fold is basically pinned threads.

Generally I've seen Steam forums address this by creating the 'landing' forum page be the stickies, then the 'main' forum has like 1-2 ultra current/relevant stickies. Thta's obviously a bit harder here though.

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Reply #37 Top

Oh God, what have I done?

I didn't mean to make you think that I wanted a way to get rid of the hiding control for the pinned posts. I wanted a way to get rid of the pinned posts themselves. 

Now there is no hope. At 100% zoom on a 1080 display, I see 13 pinned posts with no way to hide them. And now that pinned posts are in with unpinned posts, I cannot quickly determine where I should start looking.

Reply #38 Top

^ And they're still unbolded when new replies come in... "I mean, come on, people" - BO 2016

Reply #39 Top

They are so trolling us right now. It's back to normal, and by normal, I mean broke but still segregated.

 

Do you guys need help in managing the software that these forums run? Are you ready to switch to Reddit? /r/StarControlOrigins is all yours. Just say the word, and I will give a SD employee mod access.

Reply #40 Top

I really don't understand why are people complaining here at all, of course opinions on the game an such but... weird

stardock is being very honest and nice here to deserve that

but you just don't get into the "fight"

i love being here so far, and i am a proud founder!

;D keep up the good work guys!

(but the emoticon icon IS still broken XD)

Reply #41 Top

We're working on the forums update, and had to revert back to the old format for the time being.

 

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Reply #42 Top

Quoting ShadeDark, reply 40

I really don't understand why are people complaining here at all, of course opinions on the game an such but... weird

If you don't complain about something, you don't get anything fixed. Don't think that I am not appreciative that SD is working on the issues.

 

Quoting Island, reply 41

We're working on the forums update, and had to revert back to the old format for the time being.

 

The new fade effect is nice. Can it be applied to all UV blue bars?

Thank you for restoring the section dividers.

Why do the +/- buttons to collapse the section dividers not retain their setting on page refresh?

And new replies to pinned posts aren't being highlighted still. :P

 

EDIT: And are you aware of these new edit post buttons that do nothing?

 

Reply #43 Top

Quoting ShadeDark, reply 40

I really don't understand why are people complaining here at all, of course opinions on the game an such but... weird


It's just a habit for some it seems. ;)

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Reply #44 Top

Quoting Island, reply 43

It's just a habit for some it seems.

What else am I supposed to do here between vault updates?

 

EDIT: And also, do you not want me to post about the bugs or usability issues that I am finding in the forum?

Reply #45 Top

Quoting IBNobody, reply 44


Quoting Island Dog,

It's just a habit for some it seems.



What else am I supposed to do here between vault updates?

 

EDIT: And also, do you not want me to post about the bugs or usability issues that I am finding in the forum?

 

It's not that SD don't want it, it's just that, the opinions seems very angry and harsh, sometimes it's hard to differentiate between constructive criticism to just hateful ones (not saying that you did this though, i know people have done this here but i never pay attention to the username or profile pic)

=) i like all of you

Reply #46 Top

Quoting IBNobody, reply 44


Quoting Island Dog,

It's just a habit for some it seems.



What else am I supposed to do here between vault updates?

 

EDIT: And also, do you not want me to post about the bugs or usability issues that I am finding in the forum?


Constructive and useful feedback is encouraged. The purposeful "complaining" is not really helpful.

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Reply #47 Top

Quoting Island, reply 46

Constructive and useful feedback is encouraged. The purposeful "complaining" is not really helpful.

I realize that my post about pixelated art was posted in a grumpy tone. And sure, I regret posting it before I had my coffee.

On the other hand, I also know that someone's going to be thinking about that post when the next update is put together tomorrow or this weekend. So I will take the ill will I generated with a smile if it delivers a better set of update images. Bad publicity is still publicity.

 

 Edit: But going forward, I will moderate my tone. 

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Reply #48 Top

Quoting ShadeDark, reply 45


Quoting IBNobody,






Quoting Island Dog,



It's just a habit for some it seems.



What else am I supposed to do here between vault updates?

 

EDIT: And also, do you not want me to post about the bugs or usability issues that I am finding in the forum?



 

It's not that SD don't want it, it's just that, the opinions seems very angry and harsh, sometimes it's hard to differentiate between constructive criticism to just hateful ones (not saying that you did this though, i know people have done this here but i never pay attention to the username or profile pic)

:) i like all of you

The problem is that we are getting complaints that the forums are not "friendly" and people are not comfortable giving their opinions or feedback because they don't want to have any problems with other members.

That is not going to be tolerated any longer.

And I'm not addressing this at you, just agreeing with you about the harsh posts.

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Reply #49 Top

Haha, I admit that I slowed down on posting and kind of stay out of threads sometimes because it just seems a little overwhelming to get into. Not that I feel like I'm worried about getting attacked or anything like that (I've got a thick skin lol) just that it feels tiring trying to read some of the longer/angrier rants. 

I want to give good (and often critical!) feedback, but am starting to feel a little old for anything that feels close to a flame war haha