Lag and Minifreezes

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I recently upgraded my computer, and I have noticed that Rebellion is having a lot of lag issues. These are not during big fights on big maps. This is at the beginning of the game with just a few units. I usually see the lag when I try to drag the selection box over a group of units. The box is choppy and slightly unresponsive. This happens with settings anywhere from the low to max.

Here are my system specs.

GPU: Nvidia GTX 980 Ti

CPU: Intel i7-4790k @ 4 Ghz

RAM: 16 GB

OS: Windows 10, 64 bit.

 

Can anyone tell me what is happening? I can run resource intensive games like Metro: Last Light on ultra with a minimum of 60 fps. What is going on here?

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Reply #1 from Sins Forums Top

Rebellion is a native 32-bit application, it doesn't ever use more then 2 GB of RAM and doesn't use more then processor core. You can try using a program called Large Address Aware (LAA), which allows Rebellion to use 4 GB of RAM. It can help Rebellion run better.

Reply #2 from Stardock Forums Top

I've tried using LAA before, but it doesn't seem to have any effect. The exe I'm running it on is in Steam\SteamApps\common\Sins of a Solar Empire Rebellion. Is that the correct directory?

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Reply #3 from Sins Forums Top

Sounds like there is some buggy framework going on. Did you have Windows 10 before? I'd email Stardock support regardless, since that issue is too weird to be a common problem.

Reply #4 from GalCiv3 Forums Top

I would also look into what is the speed of each individual core of your processor. Sins can't run more than one core so if you can only get 4 Ghz when all four cores (as each core runs at 1 Ghz) are running then that might also be an issue.

*continues to pray/sacrifice/plead with God/gods for Sins 2 with multicore support and 64 bit engines*

Reply #5 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting GoaFan77, reply 3

buggy framework going on. Did you have Windows 10 before? I'd email Stardock support regardless, since that issue is too weird to be a common problem.


 

Had 8 before. Still had some problems, but not to this degree.

Quoting Ryat, reply 4

I would also look into what is the speed of each individual core of your processor. Sins can't run more than one core so if you can only get 4 Ghz when all four cores (as each core runs at 1 Ghz) are running then that might also be an issue.

The 4790k apparently has one of the best single core performances on the market. Now I did hear that sometimes the computer will try to run almost every process on one core, making Sins slow down. Is there a way to assign Sins to one core all to itself while everything else runs on the others?

 

 

Reply #6 from GalCiv3 Forums Top

Quoting manwithnoshoes, reply 5

Now I did hear that sometimes the computer will try to run almost every process on one core, making Sins slow down. Is there a way to assign Sins to one core all to itself while everything else runs on the others?

Not sure with Win10 (still learning its ins and outs) but with Win7 you pulled up the task manager and could right click on the Sins app and assign it priority so that it got its own CPU. That helped some when I played.

Reply #7 from Sins Forums Top

Quoting manwithnoshoes, reply 5


The 4790k apparently has one of the best single core performances on the market. Now I did hear that sometimes the computer will try to run almost every process on one core, making Sins slow down. Is there a way to assign Sins to one core all to itself while everything else runs on the others?

 

I used a 4790k when I built my new PC, and it was a huge step of for Sins. You should certainly not be having any issues with it.

Whatever your issue is, I'm thinking it is somehow a software, not hardware issue, because your system is similar to mine (identical except with a somewhat better graphics card I think) and Sins runs great on Windows 10 for me.

Reply #8 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting GoaFan77, reply 7


Quoting manwithnoshoes,
reply 5




The 4790k apparently has one of the best single core performances on the market. Now I did hear that sometimes the computer will try to run almost every process on one core, making Sins slow down. Is there a way to assign Sins to one core all to itself while everything else runs on the others?

 



I used a 4790k when I built my new PC, and it was a huge step of for Sins. You should certainly not be having any issues with it.

Whatever your issue is, I'm thinking it is somehow a software, not hardware issue, because your system is similar to mine (identical except with a somewhat better graphics card I think) and Sins runs great on Windows 10 for me.

 

Sins is put onto its own core, so that isn't the issue. What graphics settings do you have set? I turned on Fraps, and my framerate is garbage whenever I move the camera, regardless of my settings. And I still get those micro stutters, especially when moving the camera. If it is software related, would it be Sins itself or something else on the computer?

Reply #9 from Sins Forums Top

Quoting manwithnoshoes, reply 8

Sins is put onto its own core, so that isn't the issue. What graphics settings do you have set? I turned on Fraps, and my framerate is garbage whenever I move the camera, regardless of my settings. And I still get those micro stutters, especially when moving the camera. If it is software related, would it be Sins itself or something else on the computer?

I'm thinking something else on the computer. I mean, I seem to have very similar hardware to you, with the same OS, so it would require a very obscure bug to be something with the game. The last patch did update a bunch of Software libraries game uses, perhaps something didn't get installed correctly.

Reply #10 from Stardock Forums Top

I tried a bunch of fixes. I updated my BIOS, reinstalled my GPU drivers, cleaned out the appdata folder, and reinstalled. FPS still drops in medium sized fights on medium sized maps. I don't understand how this could be happening. People with lower system specs can run this game better than I can. Is all my new hardware useless, or is Sins just not ever going to run well on this computer?

Reply #11 from GalCiv3 Forums Top

The issue is not the game engine nor is it your hardware, Windows 10 has issues getting along with NVIDIA cards and is affecting a slew of games....one thing you can try that might help is to completely uninstall your graphics card driver, restart, and then let windows update find the driver....it likely won't be the latest driver and probably wont' include GeForce experience but for some people it is a version that at least works...

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Reply #12 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting Seleuceia, reply 11

The issue is not the game engine nor is it your hardware, Windows 10 has issues getting along with NVIDIA cards and is affecting a slew of games....one thing you can try that might help is to completely uninstall your graphics card driver, restart, and then let windows update find the driver....it likely won't be the latest driver and probably wont' include GeForce experience but for some people it is a version that at least works...

 

Tried this, still get anywhere from 10 to 15 fps drops during medium large fights. If it was Windows 10, then why do other, more intensive games run better? Virtually every other game I have tried has worked well. I even tried moving Sins to my SSD. No effect.

 

I had someone explain it to me, just wanted to let you know I have a solution. He said that some older games (especially games running on more outdated engines) just aren't fully compatible with newer drivers, which are optimized to run the latest 64 bit AAA title. Does that sound right to anyone here? It does explain my problem to the letter. I get great fps on Fallout 4 maxed out, but suffer with older RTS games like Sins and Total War: Rome II, both of which are notoriously unoptimized anyway.