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Are building culture centers to counter red button really necessary? (Updated with replay)

Are building culture centers to counter red button really necessary? (Updated with replay)

One of the most effective counters to the TEC starbase's red button is to build culture centers. Starbases under the influence of hostile cultures cannot use their abilities, RB being among them. This has been proven in skilled multiplayer matches, where a majority of the pros use this tactic to great effect. However, recent events have caused me to question this long-standing belief. I have recently learned that certain researches can counter the fearsome TEC ability more effectively than culture centers ever could.

Take for example the advent and vasari superweapons. The deliverance engine shoots out a beam of culture from the targeted planet, effectively acting as a superior culture center. This means that you are no longer limited to disabling just the starbases that border your empire. The Kostura cannon on the other hand inflicts damage AND disables all buildings in a gravwell for ~15 minutes, allowing you to easily destroy anything in the gravwell.

Based on this evidence, I think the majority of the community must conclude that the age old tactic of using culture centers to counter RB is very antiquated. A superior option exists. 

 

I notice some people do not believe/know culture affects use of starbase abilities. I will link a handy replay of a skilled MP game showcasing it. Here you go:

http://www.2shared.com/file/Hvt1KEwO/AutoRecord-05182008.html?

 

Make sure to skip to 1:34:54 to see it in action. Watch how the team 1 player prevents the other team from using a critical red button to turn the tide of battle. Amazing stuff!

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Reply #26 Top

Does anyone remember me? Hello? I'm so unimportant 

:'( :'(

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Reply #27 Top

Don't worry, we just have to read your profile and figure out who you are.

Reply #28 Top

Culture stopping abilities? Come on Sin, you're better than weak bollocks than this. Culture doing something like this is impossible.

Reply #29 Top

Quoting Lavo_2, reply 28

Culture stopping abilities? Come on Sin, you're better than weak bollocks than this. Culture doing something like this is impossible.

I updated the OP with a recording now quit trolling.

Reply #30 Top

Quoting Slnkillr, reply 29


Quoting Lavo_2,

Culture stopping abilities? Come on Sin, you're better than weak bollocks than this. Culture doing something like this is impossible.



I updated the OP with a recording now quit trolling.

The wicked has (well, have might be more accurate in this particular case) been punished.

Reply #31 Top

Quoting Island, reply 17


Quoting Seleuceia,

We have an obvious troll thread filled with lies and sarcasm, and the most pressing concern here is....

BE NICE



This is what happens when a gaming forum is policed by people who don't know anything about the game....



Yeah, I know absolutely nothing about the game.....

Anyways, the "be nice" comment was directed at calling another user a moron.  I'd suggest dropping it at this point.

 

Good thing he shut you down, even he knows it's 15 (gametime) hours!

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Reply #32 Top

Quoting Slnkillr, reply 29
I updated the OP with a recording now quit trolling.

Yeah, no. Culture has no effect on abilities. This is a fact.

Reply #33 Top

RICK ROLLED

Reply #34 Top

“The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting.”


Better Lube up Sel.

Reply #35 Top

There's only one thing I can say about your avatar, RiddleKing.


Its the Grineer...

Reply #36 Top
It's funny how Seleuceia's alt accounts are coming out of retirement in order to support his crackpot worldview...
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Reply #37 Top

I had to go through the "forgot your password?" to get my RiddleKing account going again....real pain it was....

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Quoting Sinkillr, reply 36

It's funny how Seleuceia's alt accounts are coming out of retirement in order to support his crackpot worldview...

 

Says you Mr amazing name changer

Reply #39 Top

SINKILLR IS TROLLING AGAIN. 

 

CLOSE POST. 

Reply #40 Top
Is that why my replay proves otherwise? Seleuceia, you are so desperate to smear me as some sort of troll that you have to resort to bringing up old accounts and making half-assed arguments to do so. Where is troll king Zombie when you need him...
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Quoting Sinkillr, reply 40

Is that why my replay proves otherwise? Seleuceia, you are so desperate to smear me as some sort of troll that you have to resort to bringing up old accounts and making half-assed arguments to do so. Where is troll king Zombie when you need him...

Dude there is countless evidence that shows you have changed your name and made alt accounts to sow confusion and discord.
Nothing you say holds any weight.

Reply #42 Top

There is just as much evidence to show that Seleuceia has created alt accounts yet you choose to defend him and attack my legitimate threads.

Reply #43 Top

Nice one Sinkillr (aka SInkillr). You have two accounts with the same avatar and slightly different names.

Reply #44 Top

I need to do something to stop you idiots from abusing my karma...

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Quoting Slnkillr, reply 44

I need to do something to stop you idiots from abusing my karma...

 

This is your old TlBERlUS account.

Reply #46 Top

Just logged into the forums after a month and reading all the threads from you guys. You are seriously HILARIOUS. Thanks for the comic relief after a tough day's work. Do you have a stand up routine anywhere in Manhattan, too?

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Quoting candido-, reply 46

Just logged into the forums after a month and reading all the threads from you guys. You are seriously HILARIOUS. Thanks for the comic relief after a tough day's work. Do you have a stand up routine anywhere in Manhattan, too?
Only on thursdays, so I hope you don't work late.

Reply #48 Top

It's sad WoeaintMe created another account to impersonate me

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