[MOD]BABYLON 5 the lost tales (rebellion 1.82)+(version alpha1)RELEASED

coming soon

TEMPEST HEAVY DESTROYER

Are you making it with Tobiwahn or alone?

The mod will be different from Tobiwahn, this version worked in rebellion 1.52 and beta 1.72. But I need (meshes) of different mods to work in. Perform work to new models i can take many years. The mod will be out in the coming months in Spanish(beta)in the forum. Later I will translate to English. I need 3d models (XSI) from the station babylon 5 to incorporate in the mod. Any help are good.

Thanks to zombie for good tools to make mods (eclipse). I'm not very good writing in English . Thank you all.

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El mod sera diferente del de Tobiwahn,esta version funcionara en rebellion 1.52 y beta 1.72. Pero necesito (meshes)de diferentes mods para trabajar en el. Realizar el trabajo de modelar nuevos buenos modelos puede llevar muchos años.

 El mod saldra en los proximos meses en español.(en este foro) Mas tarde lo traducire al ingles. Necesito modelos en 3d (xsi)de la estacion babylon 5 para incorporar al mod. Gracias a zombie por las buenas  herramientas para realizar mods (eclipse). No soy muy bueno escribiendo en ingles. Gracias a todos.

esperando ansioso ese mes!

looking forward to this month!

(google translate)

Sorry to spoil your party. No, I do not give permission to use our models. We poured lots of years work into our mod, which is still in development. Please consider making your own content. This is really hard work to do. So again, I DO NOT GRANT PERMISSION to just take our work and publish a mod with it.

Dear webjoseivan,

it doesn't matter if you made new textures, the models do not belong to you and you have no right to use them without permission, which I have not given, or any of my team members (for their models). My mod is non profit as well, and my fellow members and I have invested huge amounts of our time for this work.

I expect you to respect our work and not misappropriate it. If you made the mod for another game engine I might even help you convert the meshes. But to take our models and re-release them as your own work will not be accepted.

I sincerely hope you will not use our models (lots of the meshes I created myself from scratch, the others were made by members of my team for this mod) or textures (same as for models applies). Again, I do not grant permission to use our content for your mod.

You can make your own models and textures from scratch, as you said, we don't own the rights to the Babylon 5 universe. But we do own the right to our work.

Tobias

You should know that to make a completely new mod takes alot of time. I could see that your weapon effects is all of the origiinal SOASE. When you will look carefull in Babylon 5 there are not such weapons. To find models for Babylon 5 is also very hard. I would tell to make a completely new mod will take you at least 6 months and you have to work hard on it. I would suggest you to help Tobiwahn better with his mod that it can be ready earlier. To start a new one doesn't make any sense.

@TobiWahn_Kenobi y @Gepard67 : ustedes son una vergüenza

 mods=comunidad

@ TobiWahn_Kenobi and @ Gepard67: you are a disgrace

mods = community

(google translated)

Why am I a disgrace? I work hard for this community, and have been for the last 4 years. I've helped many a good lad trying to get into modding. Thats what a community is for. Not taking someone else's work and republishing it as his. That is not what this community is for. If you so desire to have a Babylon 5 mod other than mine, why not help webjoseivan1 create some models and textures of your own? Oh, that is hard work, I forgot.

Now if webjoseivan1 made a mod for a different game I would help him and let him use our content as long as credit is given. But I'm still actively developing this mod for Rebellion and do not want someone to skip the hard labour process and misappropriate others work.

Why do you people think just because I've released my mod for free, zilch, nada, my team and I does not own the right to it? It is our creation.

Think about what you would do if you worked on something for 4 years, then somebody taks that work without your consent and republishes it as his own.

@webjoseivan1

What I can offer you is the following:
You can make a mod that uses my mod as a base, but you must require your users to download my mod from my Homepage (be it the Forum Page or BitBucket - no direct download links) and to install/copy your own files over my mod folder (either by you providing an installer or by hand). As long as you do not distribute my content in your downloads or act like the models were of your making that should be fine.
-> Because this respects the original modders and the community

webjoseivan !

Why is there artwork of mine in this video of yours! You DO NOT have my permission to use it! Nor did you even attempt to ask me for it. 

And as for noseforget,

"Theft = Theft"  but  "Permission = mod Community"

It appears he swiped stuff from sins of the fallen too... I did not give permission either to use any assets or coding from my mods.

yo lo que quiero decir es que el señor pretende hacer un mod diferente pero con algunas naves ya hechas en otros mods poniendo en los creditos a los autores (no codigos y otras cosas) comentandolo mientras lo hace con ellos (los autores de esas naves por ejemplo) y tambien pidiendo ayuda y consejo. eso me parece normal en cualquier comunidad de mods en cualquier juego, no estoy hablando de codigos, hacer copias del mismo mod (casi identico), etc.
es muy dificil explicarse con la dificultad del lenguaje, espero que se haya entendido algo

I want to say is that Mr. seeks to make a different mod but with some ships and other mods made in putting in the credits to the authors (no codes and other things) commenting as he does with them (the authors of these ships by example) and also for help and advice. I think that's normal in any community mods in any game, I'm not talking about codes, make copies of the same mod (almost identical), etc..
is very difficult to explain to the difficulty of the language, I hope you have understood something

(google translated)

It does not matter what the content ("codes", ship models, art) is, if the creator of the content does not give you permission, it can not be used. Tobiwan does not want anyone else using his models in a Sins mod, and that is his decision to make. He does not have to share them.

Many mod communities, including ours, do try to help each other, but that does not mean everything is shared. Modders = Community, Mods do not equal community. Usually modders will "trade" content, but webjose has not given any help to Tobiwan, he has just taken his models.

Basically, webjose has 3 choices.

1. Remove Tobiwan's models and make new ones himself.

2. Do not release his mod to the public.

3. Give up on this mod, and perhaps make his own. A lot of mods need texture makers, if he wants to mod there are plenty of other projects.

I am a very big fan of Babylon 5 and am interested to any project something to do with it. That is why I was asking if you make this mod with Tobiwahn. First of all I want to have a nice mod which makes fun to play. What you made is not real Babylon 5. Tobiwahn is really taking care about his models and tries to make them perfect. It is very hard to find models for Babylon 5 but I found a very good source and found all models for capital ships, cruisers and frigates.

I only wanted to know whom I should help with my models to make his mod.

It became clear that it will be not you.

1 _ yo no tengo nada que ver con el mod, a lo sumo ayudar reproduciendolo y comentando los errores vistos, no se hacer esas cosas (yo se usar google translator y doy gracias ... jeje)
2 _ obviamente yo no digo de hacer el mod con esas naves si los autores no quieren, me parecio que fue demasiado rapida la negativa de los autores ( por ejemplo que el que queria hacer el mod les explique cual era su idea y/o mostrarles sus prototipos de mod o si se podian ayudar mutuamente en algo, etc. antes de decidir si le presta sus naves o no). es ese mi punto, ¿se entiende de porque no me gusto los comentarios de los autores (me parecieron muy apresurados)? ( en mi primer comentario yo tendria que haberme explicado más, pero con el asunto de usar un traductor automatico es dificil armar frases e ideas, disculpen voy a tratar de mejorar eso)

1 _ I have nothing to do with the mod, at most help playing it and commenting on the errors seen, not to do those things (I was using google translator and I thank ... hehe)
2 _ obviously I do not say to do the mod with those ships if the authors do not want to, I found it was too fast the refusal of the authors (for example that I wanted to do the mod to explain what his idea and / or show its prototype mod or if it could help each other in something, etc.. before deciding whether to lend their ships or not). my point is this, do you understand as to why I did not like the comments of the authors (seemed very rushed)? (In my first comment I would have to have explained more, but with the issue of using an automatic translator is difficult to put together phrases and ideas, sorry I'll try to improve it)

(google translated)

It may sound rushed to you, but this is not the first time this happened to me. A year ago or so somebody took our mod and put it up on ModDB as his (crediting me but not asking me for permission). ModDB was so kind as to take it down on my request.

I really want to make this mod, I've invested most of my spare time getting it to where it is now. I've asked for help with our effort time and again, and while some have helped (and still do) greatly, for most people, doing the work is too much hard labour. And I do understand that not everyone wants or can invest the time to create all that content.

We have done this work, we did not falter. And we continue to work on it for us and the community. And as long as I continue to work on this mod I cannot and will not allow someone to just copy my mod, tweak a little and release it as his own. As said before, if it were a different game engine I would help port the models/textures, as that would help the modding community as a whole. Also, it would involve real effort to get it done, something I do not see in the endeavour of webjoseivan1.

I'm working full time 5 days a week, and use my spare time to work on community projects (besides other hobbies, I'm just a mortal after all). I've released an editor to the Warrior Kings Battle community two weeks ago, including source, just asking for credit. I did this because there are still individuals caring for WKB and I do no longer maintain that editor.

But I still maintain the SOTYR mod. And as long as I do I will not allow someone to copy our mod.

Finally, if you would not have called us a disgrace, the reactions to you would have been different.

ok, pido disculpas, entendí mal este asunto

ok, I apologize, I misunderstood this issue

(google translate)

Well we split:

Before starting the post with a new mod I sent messages to their respective owners:

From : webjoseivan1
Sent:Oct 10/13/2013 1:36:15 PM

hello tobiwan ,i have one fan off babylon 5 and your mod ,and i have a little mod to work in rebellion 1.52 for up 

at forum, my mod is all races against -shades whit vorlon.

I can get to permission to use your beautiful meshes (mod dyplomacy)for inclusion in my mod thx.

if I can serve you in any help for you mod, I am available.

sorry but I cannot grant you permission to use our models. You mod is in effect just another B5 mod, but you want to skip the process of creating the content and just use someone else's. That I cannot allow. I've been working with my team since 2009 on this project and it cost me lots of my spare time and effort to get this far. If you want to make a mod for B5 you could start to make your own content, or support the effort of someone who does. Taking someone else's work is not an will never be right.

Tobias.

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Mod would be included in the credits of their respective designers...................

The mod will be done with new models, even if it takes more time, sorry for the inconvenience (TobiWahn). All TobiWahn  models will not be released and deleted in this post and mod.

thx all:webjoseivan1

(google translate).

Thanks for respecting my wish. If you need help getting into modding (models an such) give me a call.

Maybe if you create some cool models yourself we can trade between our mods. (I only accept models which were made specifically for the mod or if I have written consent of the creator)

But again, thank you. Our mod means a lot to me, and I think to all of my colleagues as well. 

Tobias

updated translations rebellion 1.80 + dlc,s.(esp)

Se ha actualizado la traduccion de sins off a solar empire rebellion a la version 1.80 mas sus dos dlc,s.

Descomprimir el archivo con win7z y colocar la carpeta en:

C:\Users\(Tu usuario)\Documents\My Games\Ironclad Games\Sins of a Solar Empire Rebellion\Mods-Rebellion v1.80

Una vez descomprimido, abrimos el juego y le damos a opciones.

 Abajo del todo aparecerá la opción de "Mods", la seleccionamos y se observará un mod llamado: "Spanish Rebellion 1.80".

 Activamos dicho mod y aplicamos los cambios.

Si hay algun error se intentara corregir.

Si descomprimis el archivo con winrar,cread una carpeta que se llame(spanish rebellion 1.80)y colocad los arhivos dentro,despues colocad la carpeta en Mods-Rebellion v1.80 y activad el mod.

Espero que os sirva.

Arriba teneis el enlace para descargarlo.

gracias webjoseivan1 por comentar que esta la traducción al español de este juego en su ultima versión, para que se haga conocer que hay una traducción del juego!!!

Thanks for commenting webjoseivan1 this Spanish translation of this game in its latest version, to be made known that there is a translation of the game!

(google translate)

Hola!

Muchas gracias por la traducción webjoseivan1!

Release and alpha1.0 mod babylon5 the lost tales.

Link to download the mod up on the cover:

Extract/Unzip the file into the Rebellion 1.82 mod folder (C:\Users\**YOURUSERNAME**\Documents\My Games\Ironclad Games\Sins of a Solar Empire Rebellion\Mods-Rebellion v1.82).

 Reopen the game, go to Options, then Mods, then click the mod in the left box, click enable, click apply.

Thx all and sorry for delay

que bueno webjoseivan1 !!!!

podrías actualizar la información de la traducción al principio del hilo, capaz poniendo el link del hilo del foro "clandlan" de la traducción para que todas las personas que vean esto esten actualizadas, o también se podría hacer un hilo nuevo con el tema de la traducción al español. desde ya muchas gracias

 Edito: https://forums.sinsofasolarempire.com/446701/page/1/#3416036 (hilo sobre la traducción, me había olvidado)

webjoseivan1 that good!!

could you update the information in the translation to the top of the thread, can put the link in the forum thread "clandlan" translation for all people who see this are up to date, or you could also make a new thread with the Spanish translation. from already thank you very much

(google translated)

Edit: https://forums.sinsofasolarempire.com/446701/page/1/#3416036 (thread on translation, I forgot)