krusher[BRz]L Does not understand multiplayer mechanics

So I played a game with krusher[BRz]L. Our team decided he would economy after ZliMojsije killed orange. So ZliMojsije does this and begins to start aiding other people etc, etc. krusher[BRz]L feeds me. all is going well. KoK gets a titan out and begins to siege my home world krusher[BRz]L. asks me to relocate. I scoff at the idea. Tell him I'm not going to. he gets angry at me and states I'm going to just feed his titan experience and that I am a silly noob for it and a moron yatta, yatta, yatta; then he stops feeding me. Stating that I'm not wasting feed on suicidal players.

So I waste time arguing with him and lose efficiency to game play thanks to him. krusher[BRz]L. lacking the perspective that if I'm right there I am keeping kok in check so he will not engage anyone else and will waste time on me. For whatever reason he thinks feeding the titan exp is more detrimental to our cause then holding my home world.

So who is right? krusher[BRz]L. or me? Fat_Man, that's who I play in the replay. Should I have relocated or stayed? I'm pretty sure most of you are going to agree that holding my position was the right call. I mean if I did what he wanted, the same scenario would of ensued but on a less fortified planet; so I don't understand his logic........

Anyways, I don't like krusher[BRz]L; and I don't think I'm going to play on his side anymore. Unless the community overall says I am wrong.

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Reply #1 Top

First of all I'd like to say thx for not being too bias...Yet I still must say my side of the story and point out common and informal game rules in a 5 step answer that will krush your clueless rambling...

1.) The FEEDER (Me) decides on what that money is used for, there is no arguing this, and it is common practice for feeder to call the shots. The money is not yours since you were incapable of winning alone therefore you have forfeited decision making in exchange for feed and for the overall success of your team. That means if your feeder says cut your losses and move on, you LISTEN!

2.) Sin's 101 also dictates that you NEVER engage titan unless you can kill it since any attempt would only make it stronger by leveling up which you did by suicide on it deliberately and getting it up to level 5. Which will in the long run hurt your team because we will have to engage and kill a level 5 titan and to do this will cost us consideberately more ships and resources than had you not leveled it up.

3.) Suicide position is a double edged sword you are draining vital resources in a goal not to hold out but to simply buy your team time. It is a fact that in a "skilled" game you cannot hold out suicide spots. Not even the most experienced (Slayer/Doci) can do this with a 2 frontal assault of skilled players, So the question is when does it become reckless to feed you 100 credits per second to simply have it wasted leveling an enemy titan? The answer is the moment you stop being rational which was pretty early in this game. Like you said I did feed you early on, and I would of kept doing it had you not lost and the situation turned hopeless.. Sure you bought some time but you didn't do it alone. You effectively tied me up to hold a single planet out of some personal grand desire to not lose to kok which wasn't very team oriented of you.

4.) You have a choice when in suicide spot, you can relocate this is always a tactical option and sure your opponent may chase but after 2-3 planets they will turn back and go finish your hw, if you were smart you have upgraded your hw with 7.5k health which should give you a good 10 minutes to rebuild elsewhere.

5.) Lastly I have one word for you RESEARCH this is the most important aspect of why you should have listened. You can hold out well during early game because with 1-2 planets can research the basic civic/military upgrades but when you are an egg without many options or slots your opponent will quickly surpass you in both military and civic research. Making his fleet extremely more effective than yours, not to mention he will have a wider choice of more powerful ships to counter your 2nd rate fleet. Not only will he be able at this point to get more bang for his buck but he will be able buy it alone since he has been colonizing while keeping you under siege.

I'd also like to point out that had your opponent been someone else and not arrogant and noobish kok you would have died rather quickly. He had an easy victory over you but squandered it by not using his surrounding planets as he should have. He wanted to beat you only using his hw without any other planet which is pretty arrogant but he gave you a run for your money since you got 23k credits, 7k metal, 4k crystal. Kok on the other hand received NO FEED or support from allies other than culture. The bottom line is you got whopped pretty badly with feed in 1 on 1 and you were arrogant and clueless enough to refuse advice from the guy feeding you. After taking a closer look at the game I don't know what is lower your skills or your manners. My advice for you is to learn to cooperate with your allies because if you don't change your attitude, I see many more rambling posts in the future about your shameful lack of skill, knowledge and humbleness.

-krusher-

 

Reply #2 Top

wrong replay

Reply #4 Top

ill just say that holding vs titan is usually incorrect... played a FFa the other day where my lvl 7 titan was the only thing keeping me in the game, and it was not dying (i.e. killing LRM and escaping) vs 1400 fleet supply of caps and LRM. do not under any circumstances feed a titan...

Reply #5 Top

Oh look, that game where I really should have attacked you but didn't.

It was basically a running 4v4, ignoring the few planets where you and kok were having your friendly duel the whole game.

 

Reply #6 Top

First off, if it was KoK, then odds are he was trolling as TL....in which case he had an ankylon....

And if he had an Ankylon, who gives a fuck what level it is?????

And if KoK wasn't playing as TL, this game should be put in the Smithsonian...

Reply #7 Top

Krush your first point couldnt be more wrong but as for the rest i havent seen nor intend to watch the replay. Secondly i cant believe several ICO regualars thought that Fat_Man was howthe's smurf...

And lastly yeah its ankylon so who cares indeed what level it is, just ignore it as it does the damage of about 2 LFs per level...

 

Reply #8 Top

They should buff it. But not register the buff on KoK's product ID. We wouldn't want that happening now would we....

Reply #9 Top

don't disrespect titans..they are strong never the less and are capable of leveling enemy fleets. 

Reply #10 Top

Riddle, you have abandoned the realm of trolls, and have no hope of returning. These attempted "insightful" replies are nothing but bs. You don't even play multiplayer enough to know how underpowered the ankylon is. I'd say that a level 5 Eradica>Level 10 Ankylon

Reply #11 Top

Quoting MooMugger, reply 10

Riddle, you have abandoned the realm of trolls, and have no hope of returning. These attempted "insightful" replies are nothing but bs. You don't even play multiplayer enough to know how underpowered the ankylon is. I'd say that a level 5 Eradica>Level 10 Ankylon

 

he should have retreated. Don't defend his mistake by assaulting me from that useless point of view. I do play on ico and you can't beat down any titan with just a few units because of there regeneration rates + Mitigation levels regardless if its kok. Besides-he doesn't know how to use the Ankylons anyway.

 

look around you-telecom companies are setting up 4g Lte everywhere.

 

Kok my ******* friend. Only use disruption matrix and furious defense. Group shield is useless unless if it was passive.

Reply #12 Top

'Tis only a matter of time until we discover each other's smurfs and start an ICO troll dominion.... *sigh*...

Reply #13 Top

Quoting MooMugger, reply 12

'Tis only a matter of time until we discover each other's smurfs and start an ICO troll dominion.... *sigh*...

 

lol just a matter of time.. 

Reply #14 Top

Let us unite. The remaining elitists are indoctrinating regulars to their cause!! Trolls and N00bs are being persecuted and shunned, while being mercilessly booted from games!! We must gallantly tromp onto ICO and save the day!! We will operate under the clan  "[AET]" (anti-elitist trolls). For more information, contact one of my co-conspirators, Gobbeldygook(steam name)