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Riddle Me This, Windows 8

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Riddle Me This, Windows 8

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Okay, I have been using OS's long enough to be an expert. Unfortunately, the company I know and at some point I swear I trusted them, took all the stuff I knew and threw it out of windows. So, basically all that useless information I was learning while other kids were going outside and playing with each other is slightly more useless than before I got Windows 8. Now, I am trying to give the new OS and change in general a fair shot, but gosh darn if they didn't make even the simplest of things completely different. It's rather illogical. Not to digress, but I mean, why exactly is it necessary to outright delete functionality that had no real flaws in favor of something that has many? Even if they were trying to satisfy some nazionalist agenda to remake all UI into the one master UI, they are making is WWII era difficult to adjust to the new system.

 

So here are my questions that I shouldn't have to ask because I am not 6 years old and I have used a computer before:

 

Why does the start menu have more functionality than my desktop? Which one should I be using to launch programs?

 

How much extra computer resources are being used to run that new start page?

 

How do you multitask when in an app? I can't seem to access anything other than the app I am using. Is there a way to bring up a task bar? It has never been so hard to play solitaire and watch TV at the same time. Please tell me I am missing something here.

 

How do you exit an app? Why is there no exit button on any apps? Currently I have to go to start, go to desktop, hover mouse over left side of screen, right click, click close. Is that how you do it or am I missing something simple?

 

Are hotkeys still in use or is that too convenient for the new OS? Which ones no longer work?

 

How do you minimize an app? How do you use an app while still using the desktop?

 

Are there any changes in basic user directories I should know about?

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Reply #51 from WinCustomize Forums Top

And using computers with Windows 8 installed.

Reply #52 from Elemental Forums Top

Update, Windows 8 just sent me an email to show me some tutorials and stuff. They are actually pretty informative.

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Reply #53 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Quoting kona0197, reply 41
Everyone knows clicking the mouse is much faster than using the keyboard

i was only pointing out that while you move your mouse to the startbutton im already inside the start interface
because i press the windows button + the click speed is the same - dont believe me ? place your hand on the windows key place your hand on the mouse now click both which one is faster -neither  ;)

Quoting seanw3, reply 52
Update, Windows 8 just sent me an email to show me some tutorials and stuff. They are actually pretty informative.

yeah but they should have started these tutorials on the developer and consumer preview already. 
like i said because of the lack of information done in the beta and the reviews done by people that didn´t know how to use it  - windows8 is rated as a bad OS. While it quite the opposite 

Reply #54 from Sins Forums Top

Quoting kona0197, reply 42
Yet while using an app Windows 7 is much faster for launching a new app. No "Metro" to switch to first.

Lol....it takes the same amount of time (AKA "instantaneous") to load the windows 8 start menu ("Metro") as it does to open the start menu in Windows 7...

My trolladar is going off...

Reply #55 from Elemental Forums Top

I am deciding to look at it with a positive tone. For better or for worse, it's my new OS. I would have made such a great soviet citizen. :banhammer:

Reply #56 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Quoting kona0197, reply 41
Everyone knows clicking the mouse is much faster than using the keyboard.

 

you should consider using the on-screen keyboard from the accessibility menu then. :D

Reply #57 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Quoting moshi, reply 56
you should consider using the on-screen keyboard from the accessibility menu then.
 click, click,  <_<  .... over 1000 more letters to go ... click  :annoyed:  click, click, click  >:(  click, click, click, click, XO :banhammer:  F... this... 
sorry for trolling

Reply #58 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Quoting seanw3, reply 55
I am deciding to look at it with a positive tone.

Good on you.  I bit the bullet and installed Win 8 as the default/only OS on my main rig, and I'm glad that I did.  It's All I use now.

Win 7?  WTF is that? :rofl:

 

Reply #59 from Elemental Forums Top

Update: The new music player has no volume control and is not connected to the volume mixer. Feels like I am playing an EA console to PC port.

Reply #60 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Quoting starkers, reply 58
Win 7?  WTF is that?
My, what a short attention span. two years of loving it and now you don't remember what it was?  A new OS won't fix that. :P

In case it gets missed in the other thread:

I fail to  comprehend the huge rush to Windows 8, particularly since Win 7 hasn't been out all that long and has been an amazingly robust and functional OS. Your old OS isn't going to self-destruct simply because it's alleged replacement has been released.

"It's on sale", "it's new" "my friends have it" to me is hardly a justification to replace a known good product with an unknown one. So pat yourself on the back for being so "up to date" and deal with it it. Many of you act like Microsoft can do no wrong, so an immediate switch to the newest OS was a sure thing. It never is so stop blaming Stardock for your own lack of foresight or failure to at least research what the gains vs. the losses would be.

If I went out and bought new tires and rims to fit my car, then replaced the car, I hardly think I could go back to the seller of the tires and rims and demand they make them work on my new vehicle. Why is software any different?

 I'm not saying it is a bad OS, to me it is simply one I choose to not use any time in the near future at any cost for my own reasons.
I don't need to keep up, be trendy or save money by buying something I don't need.
My SD software works fine, my games run great and my rig is as secure as it ever was.  My ODNT sub is paid up until 2014. All I expect from SD is that the apps continue to work on the OS it was purchased for and hopefully that at least some of the known issues will be addressed at some point. That is good enough for me.
 
If I was given a copy of Win 8 for Christmas it would go in the closet next to those fruitcakes I got back in 1975., 79, 84, 93, 99, 01..........
 
/end Win 8 discussions
 
Reply #61 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Quoting Wizard1956, reply 60
If I went out and bought new tires and rims to fit my car, then replaced the car, I hardly think I could go back to the seller of the tires and rims and demand they make them work on my new vehicle. Why is software any different?

Oh, look....I can quote it again....;)

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Reply #62 from Elemental Forums Top

Quoting seanw3, reply 60
Update: The new music player has no volume control and is not connected to the volume mixer. Feels like I am playing an EA console to PC port.

 

Wow, no volume control? This is some pretty good bitching material. Anyone want to jump in?

Reply #63 from WinCustomize Forums Top

lol @ Jafo. :w00t:

Reply #64 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Quoting MadDeez, reply 50
isn't it funny how people who have yet to use the os are experts about it already? all that knowledge gathered strictly from others have said...

EXACTLY!

If people just would understand that the "Metro" interface is nothing more than the start menu ( which you still access the same way. Lower left corner or win key ) they might actually stop spouting stupid shit that has no backbone at all. I will guarantee you that I can launch any app I have on my new start menu just as quickly as you can with a windows 7 start menu. In most cases, faster. The apps themselves open faster than they did on Windows 7 as well.

My apps still close with an X in the upper right corner of the window and I'll be dammed if I can't alt-tab to switch between them ( or just click on them in the taskbar ). 

Now, do I like the look of 8 as much? No I don't, but when I'm using an application or playing a game I'm not looking at that stuff anyway.

Reply #65 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Quoting moshi, reply 56
Quoting kona0197, reply 41
Everyone knows clicking the mouse is much faster than using the keyboard.

Another false statement!

Have you ever seen someone that is proficient with keyboard shortcuts use a PC? It will put a mouse clicker to complete shame.

 

Reply #66 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Quoting Phoon, reply 65
Have you ever seen someone that is proficient with keyboard shortcuts use a PC? It will put a mouse clicker to complete shame.

My brother-in-law was working on his machine some years ago.....it was a plain black screen with text on it....I asked what he was using as an OS....it was 2000 server [was a while ago]  I said where's the GUI? ...he said never uses it...always works from direct command input.

He's a programmer....one who was head-hunted during the millennium-bug fiasco....;)

Reply #67 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Now guys, if his mind is already made up, why confuse him with the facts? ;P

Reply #68 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Quoting Wizard1956, reply 67
Now guys, if his mind is already made up, why confuse him with the facts?

Now Wizard.. there's no need to throw Oxymorons around...  :rofl:

Reply #69 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Quoting Kantok, reply 47
You realize you can create a live account using your gmail address right? I use my gmail address as my Win8 login and never use live.com.

*WARNING WARNING* - Just be a bit careful here. I originally setup W8 with my Live account. Then went to Microsoft Account settings online and changed my account email address to a gmail one. It royally corrupted my Live account - all emails, contacts and access gone. Instead they created a bogus 'dummy' outlook account using my gmail address as a login - but it can't receive emails (obviously these go to my actual gmail account) and it just sits there being empty and useless whilse I've spent a month getting nowhere with Microsoft recovering my Live account.

Reply #70 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Quoting Skarny, reply 69
*WARNING WARNING* - Just be a bit careful here. I originally setup W8 with my Live account. Then went to Microsoft Account settings online and changed my account email address to a gmail one. It royally corrupted my Live account - all emails, contacts and access gone. Instead they created a bogus 'dummy' outlook account using my gmail address as a login - but it can't receive emails

I think if you set Win 8 up using a G-Mail account you'll have no issues.  However, changing accounts mid-stream may upset the apple cart, being that MS registers your Win 8 installation with the original email account used during setup.

As for getting it fixed... ugh, good luck with that.  I had a hotmail account that suddenly I couldn't enter anymore [wouldn't accept my password] and MS had me jumping through hoops to prove it was my account, none of which were successful.  I kept getting the response that I had not provided enough information, despite correctly dentifying several emails within that account, so in the end I just bit the bullet and let it go.

It wasn't until I needed an account for Win 8 [didn't want to use my ISP provided one] that I bothered with hotmail again, some 18 months after the password cock-up... er, debacle. So far so good.  Fingers crossed!

Reply #71 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Quoting starkers, reply 70
I think if you set Win 8 up using a G-Mail account you'll have no issues. However, changing accounts mid-stream may upset the apple cart, being that MS registers your Win 8 installation with the original email account used during setup.

So what if I don't want to setup any email account? I really don't want my OS tied into my email account.

Reply #72 from Sins Forums Top

Then make a new e-mail solely for your Microsoft account....yes, it's tied to an e-mail account, but at least it's not a work address, a personal address, an address that you actually care about, etc...

Reply #73 from WinCustomize Forums Top

No thanks. I would rather not have any email tied down to an OS. Good thing Windows 7 will be around for some time. I think Windows 9 will be a bit better.

Reply #74 from WinCustomize Forums Top

windows9 ? there is no windows9, there is only a name ["Blue"] and Blue is most likely a servicepack that will be Win8.1-8.5
i doubt that there will be a new personal OS in the very near future since Blue is dated to arrive in summer 2013 or later.
If MS makes a new OS in that short period i will be gladly sticking with my windows8...

Reply #75 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Quoting Roloccolor, reply 74
windows9 ? there is no windows9, there is only a name ["Blue"] and Blue is most likely a servicepack that will be Win8.1-8.5
i doubt that there will be a new personal OS in the very near future since Blue is dated to arrive in summer 2013 or later.
If MS makes a new OS in that short period i will be gladly sticking with my windows8...

Stick with whatever you want. Unless Microsoft goes belly-up, there will be a Windows 9. If not in name, at least in OS progression. "Very near future" has never been part of the game/sales plan. They are more than willing to stick with their failures for two or three years. Are you?