I was unimpressed with Biden's reported (I didn't watch it) stance on abortion, that he agreed it was murder but didn't want to intrude on other's rights to murder, or something like that.

I went to bed thinking 60/40.  60% of the debate going to Biden.  But when I woke up, I realized all that eye rolling, laughing, smirking, it really negated his points, at least to me.  (But who cares, he wasn't aiming at me.)  And I think he made a couple good points....I like the whole idea of Afghanistan standing on its own feet.  He's right.  My husband did over a handful of tours there.  They will NEVER stand on their own until they HAVE to.  It's easier to just let our guys die.  Anyway, hard to even agree with him when he was smirking and laughing about it all.

Doesn't he think this is serious?

So today, I don't think there was a winner.  But I do think we were able to see the the different world views on display.  And it is some scary stuff. 

Biden's rudeness.....well, most Dems secretly (some not so secretly) think the rest of Americans are stupid, Joe just played their same tired old song....what's really amazing to me is, Joe's been doing this foreign policy stuff a loooong time....Ryan sounded equally as versed as Joe.

I know, right?  lol

Oh, and the abortion question.

Really?

What a set up.

Ryan shoulda said, "Our economy is in the crapper.  Our citizens are being murdered by terrorists while the Commander and Chief plays with the rich and famous.  And you want to talk about abortion?  Really?"

Everyone knows Romney is against abortion with a few exceptions.

Can we get back to the real issues now?

Ugh.

Someday, when I'm in a Veep debate, I'm gonna use that.

Lol...yup.  He'll probably have to pay penance for that one!

You'll have my vote

So why doesn't Obama/Biden carry over this same policy with those on welfare? 

Ya, it was 2 against one...for even Ms. ABC News Moderator interrupted him and not just once or twice but several times. It was infuriating for me watching and listening, but to his credit Ryan kept his cool..his manners throughout were impeccable. 

Biden came wanting to show the young buck up. The Dem base think he did just that. To me, it wasn't even close..in style or  substance.

Not gaffs per se, but Biden's comments about Libya contradict the sworn testimony of the State Dept. officials of the day before. 

And that includes his remarks, position and voting record in total support of abortion. 

It's been long known that Obama and his surrogates (such as Ms. ABC News Moderator, Martha Raddatz, is) want to split the Catholic vote and they think abortion and birth control will do it.

Ryan and Biden are Catholics..Ryan follows Church and Biblical teaching on abortion, while Biden is a dissenter and a hypocrite.

And to the shame of many (not all) of our Bishops, Biden has been allowed to get away with it.

But getting back to the politics,

...Ms Moderator in pointing out that they are both Catholic and asking them to define themselves according to their Catholic Faith was hoping to show that Ryan is a radical extremist on abortion.  

I heard a bishop somewhere today scolded Biden's stance.  I had no idea he was Catholic until that night.

Lol.  That's a great Lula!  I wish Ryan would have said that!  The debate woulda been over. 

Polls.

The reason I don't put stock in them....

We have caller ID.  We don't answer the phone when pollsters call.  In fact, we don't answer ANY political calls.  How do we filter them out?  If we don't recognize the #, we let the machine pick up.

Why?

First, it's no one's business, unless we choose to make it so.

Second, call me crazy, but I love to see the utter disbelief, HORROR even, when the news media reports on election night and can't understand WHY OH WHY the polls could be so wrong.

And I'm not alone.

A majority of my friends, feel the same way.  They don't answer polls.  Period.

On talk radio today...a man called in and said he felt the election was going to boil down to 600 Independent Suburban women in Ohio.

I'm one of those women (tho have registered Republican so I can vote in the primary...but I haven't ALWAYS voted Republican, and probably never will).

So many of the suburban women I know feel the same way.  Keeping our cards close to the vest keeps the tension high.  Tension and stress, reveals much more about people (candidates and press) than say, having it all in the bag.

On the other hand.  The stones are being laid right now for riots, or for Dems to say this election was "stolen."

There are already stories in the black community near me about young black men and women (who registered and voted for the first time with Obama) getting letters from some mysterious "Them"...which says there is something wrong with their registration...that they need to re-register.

The accusation is:  there is nothing wrong, and they won't bother to re-register (its too late) and so they won't vote believing they CAN'T....

That's just one arm, or one version of a common theme which  began about two weeks ago.

I imagine it is the same all over the country.

Those things, and the polls, are seeding groundwork for future riots possibly....and certainly for accusations of a stolen election, should BO lose.

I'm proud that in my country, the USA, there is no election fraud - people vote and then they count all the votes properly every time.  It's a beautiful thing, living in a democracy.

Then, some elector votes for the President.

Nobody ever polls my house.  No landline!

I think Dems are more likely as a group to answer polls. 

Yeah all those dead Dems voting in Florida...really, I'm sure they appreciate the examination.

I am almost 100% sure Stevens was gone when that pic was taken. Look at the coloration. All the blood rushing to the surface for that purple hue and all the blueness of his lips. The dead eyes as well. He suffered pretty bad and all team Obama could think of as they were likely watching it live on surveillance and drone footage was how to lie to the American people and pretend it didn't happen because terrorism has been ended by Obama.

At least two:

The BS on the impact of Obamacare on freedom of religion.

The BS on Libya.

The media hasn't called them 'gaffes' (and won't), but they were.

BS is not really gaffs - they are intentional lies.

I've lost faith in half of my fellow Americans. 

Just now?

Yeah. 

I always allowed myself to believe that when the country faced a crisis, natural, war, terrorism, fiscal cliff, Americans would link arms and face it.

Turns out only half of America would face it.  While the other half are at their backs shoving them off the cliff.

If it didn't happen on US soil, or it hasn't actually affected them personally in a negative way, it didn't happen.

Well it's here....stock marketis falling as I type this.....that's just the beginning

What do I care?  I still have my job, my government subsidies, etc.  The stock market is for rich people who vote for Romney.  Vote Obama!

We're on the path to becoming Mexico, with a small, incredibly wealthy upper class and a vast lower class with little opportunity, short of crime, to break into the upper class.  Demography rules and the culture that defined the United States for the past 250 years is rapidly dying.  If you consider that a good thing, they you are quite smug & happy today.  We've crossed over the tipping point where the takers outnumber the producers sufficiently to call the shots.  Producers (taxpayers) already support the poor to the tune of ~$60,000 per person per year in services and direct payments.

Some white collar crime followed by a 20 year sentence in a minimum security Federal institution is looking pretty attractive about now.  Might as well join the gravy train - I should croak before the gravy bowl is totally empty.

It might be funny if that isn't EXACTLY how some people think.

I'm starting to hear about small business owners bringing in Obama supporter employees and laying them off or cutting them to part time.

I think this is smart.  It's a direct consequence of their actions.  And if you have to get rid of someone, doesn't it make sense to get rid of the person who essentially voted AGAINST your business? 

I think it's total crap to fire people because of who they supported or voted for.