Auqia vs DieHard

Interesting replay...for those that didn't/don't want to watch...

Choke point between players was the pirate base, with more or less equal planets on each side, though map favored Auqia slightly (had both asteroid/moon connected to HW, had more neutrals, had more population potential)...both players avoided fleeting up for quite a while, investing resources in trade, titan, and military technologies...Auqia got his titan to pirate base first, getting it to level 3...DieHard got TAR and SBed pirate base, made push on one of Auqia's planets with titan, 4 caps, and moderate bomber spam....Auqia ravaged DieHard's fleet, at which point game was essentially over...

Here are my thoughts...

Aquia:

• His expansion really surprised me:
• No use of corvettes or scouts to wipe krosovs...lost a planet early (though you could argue he just forgot to build turret)...IMO I think 2 corvettes and 2 disciples (which he had fleet supply for) could have saved him the hassle of turreting several of his planets and allowed him to get extractors faster...he also would have been able to keep a missionary vessel at an asteroid near a fringe ice world....just my opinion....
• Use of his halcyon and the micro-management of his missionary vessels was excellent...going ADA and fighter build allowed his halcyon to clear some of the bigger militias rather well...his expansion was quick considering he didn't lead with colony cap...
• Got culture and trade up early, made excellent use of logistics and avoided logistic upgrades...
• Got bare minimum needed to support a titan rush...his titan was up earlier and was able to level at pirate base, allowing him to get lvl 3  
• Very minimalist approach to fleet...hardly had any fleet until end of game (at which point he spammed capital ships)...worked well since he leveled his titan and DieHard didn't bomber spam early...
• Interesting use of culture...got culture SB and culture techs (including the ones that see all culture and wells under influence) very early...costly investment, but gave him culture bonuses at pirate base...
• Got defences up early on key planets...shield bestowal, turrets, PJIs, SBs...
• Invested heavily in military technologies before fleeting up, prioritizing hull and shield techs...when he did fleet, it was the classic Eradica + defense vessel combo...at end he spammed capital ships...

DieHard:

• Expanded using Akkan and some cobalts, allowing him to clear militia better...bactracked his fleet though to get volcanic on edge of map, allowing Auqia's Halcyon to bomb one of his frontline asteroids...
• Got culture and trade up early as well...however, he rushed 6 civ labs and development mandate, preventing him from getting titan as early as Auqia...
• Minimalist approach to fleet for expansion...fleeted up to get a small cobalt spam, though not enough to do much other than drive off a lone capital ship...later got 3 more caps (sova, 2 dunovs) and moderate bomber spam going...
• Got defences up early on key planets...also got TAR and built SB on pirate base, allowing him to hold it...note however that TAR prevented him from colonizing pirate base and getting any XP on it...
• Invested heavily in military technologies before really fleeting up...

In my opinion (and this is just my opinion, also aided with foresight), the costliest mistakes were DieHard rushing development mandate before Titan and getting TAR (which prevented him from colonizing pirate base and getting XP)...personally i would have gone for bomber spam earlier but I don't think that's a mistake, more personal preference...

Thanks for the upload and for the game summary - will watch later. I think 1v1 is a really underappreciated game mode in Sins (to state the obvious), whereas it is usually the standard for balance and skill on most other RTS.

Some other things I thought were odd or different:

• Auqia researched divination
• DieHard got a Sova...I understand the 2 dunovs for EMP (too bad it didn't work well enough for him), but the Sova just leeched extra XP and in my opinion didn't contribute to trying to kill Eradica (just my opinion, admittedly I'm a little biased against Sova)....
• No use of corvettes or guardians...wouldn't say those choices were bad or "mistakes", just very different from what you usually see...
• Auqia didn't get wail...

Very interesting ... O.o'

More!

I really liked Auqias and DieHards expansion. I didn't analyze DieHards game so much as Auqias one. Auqia made some minor mistakes Seleuceia described (ie. let the Milita take over an asteroid after Colonization and sometimes didnt level up his Halcyon Carrier). Auqia was playing as intended. He was never being pressured so he rushed a titan. Also note that DieHard was TEC REBEL, so he obviously researched the Alliance with Milita and Pirates which Auqia took the chance and started to XP on the Pirate Base. Like they talked in-game, the first player to get the Titan out and lvl it up is the winner, and thats what happened. What amazed me was that:

• LVL 1 Ragnarov Titan easily beat a LVL 4 Eradica (Didn't destroy it). That was amazing DieHard ! (I know Eradica is a more AOE dmg dealer and at lvl 6 is invulnerable, but still 3 LVL's was the difference).

Great game from both of the guys! Learned much about it actually .

Thanks!

MrM

Actually If you look carefully it was pirate turrets that dealt about 50% damage when I "almost" killed that eradica. I'm sure Auqia had everything under control though and I never really had a chance to kill it.

Oh i never didnt pay attention to the pirate turrets, never the less Ragnarok was doing some insane damage imo.

Finally watched this - kind of silly 1v1 map really - literally a race to farm pirates for Titan levels with an hour of trade ports beforehand. It's hard to say if some of Aquia's research tech choices had much serious strategic purpose or not since when you have such a massive economy in a long stalemate like that you can pretty much afford to buy anything (eg. the searching for artifacts, divination, etc.). The fast expansion in the early game was good to watch though. Be interested to see more 1v1s that aren't so campy with a single chokepoint.

I agree with ekko on this one.  That and the 1v1 maps need more resource balancing as well.  

I can actually download this because it is on gamefront thank you Greg30007 was great game to watch. Didnt understand a lot of what was going on to be fair because I am still noob. (microing)

if you hold alt while watching player you can see orders he isued....

Below is the link to some other replays of games I played 

https://forums.sinsofasolarempire.com/430699

EDIT: Just checked and found out that only last link is working. I think they are deleting them if there is no traffic on them...

Unfortunately I don't have replay files any more to re upload them

yes! finally a 1v1 replay.  Ty greg

Finally! It's like it's August 15th all over again.

The necros these days, I swear.........

my bad Seleuceia. I was late for the party and the file is outdated

Uhh I wish there was a way to lock threads that you made. 

Well to be fair it wasn't you who necroed it....and even if you did you'll never be as bad as Sareth....

And Greg, if you use the report button at the top you can ask for it to be locked based on necro grounds...it's important to mention though that the thread contains "obsolete information" that could mislead new players, not just some thread harmlessly necroed...

Posts that were created by a person cannot be reported by same one. In all threads I created  there is edit button instead of report one compared to threads that are made by others where there is indeed a report button.

I forget about that...you can always PM kyro or Yarlen I suppose....

Hey all ...

Does anyone still have a copy of this match. I would love to watch it? I knew a Diehard for SFC he was with 9th Fleet? Is this the same person? If so, hey bro it XTF Fox...

Just a newbie

it's from an outdated version which the current version won't recognize the replay file of- so even if they do it can't be watched.  Which is a pity as it was a good game.

Thank you bilun