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Rebellion is a RIPOFF!

Rebellion is a RIPOFF!

I paid $40 for what I already had in Trinity plus a couple of new features? This is, at best, an expansion. To say I am unimpressed would be an understatement and I would demand a refund if possible. I have bought many Stardock titles in the past and have never encountered this.

If Stardock had not been honorable with Elemental, I would withdraw my business.

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Reply #26 Top

Quoting ZombiesRus5, reply 25

Quoting MayallCommunion, reply 23I understand what logger is saying, Zombie in an earlier post you compared what was released in the mini expos and what was released in but you didn't include alot of things to make it seem like rebellion had alot more than the others(It did but really not much). While its cool that rebellion was released not much was actually changed about the game :/

Either your being lazy or your just not real sure on your opinion. I've given concrete examples about all the expansions and what was added on the surface. This is a pretty lame rebuttal, you can do better.


Quoting MayallCommunion, reply 23I wasn't impressed with rebellion much either mainly due to alot of content that could of been in the game but wasn't.

Gamers are obviously smarter than actual game designers.

 

What I mean is you are embellishing rebellion.

"Rebellion $30 - Adds Titans (x6), Capital Ships (x3), Corvettes (x3), Vasari Nanite Swarms, New Research (which unlocks new strategies), New "actual" Victory Conditions, Shadows.

Thats 36 abilities on the new Titans and Capital Ships compared to 12 with Entrenchment. These of course include new particle effects and sounds.

It's well over 40+ abilities when you count Corvettes and station improvements."


For example, your review on diplomacy.

"Diplomacy $10 - Adds Envoys and Pacts (x3)"

Why not Adds envoys, each with 3 different abilities for a total of 9 abilities, multiple new upgrades in the new diplomacy menu, being able to hire pirates for specific missions, a completely reworked diplomacy tree.

 I didn't even emellish it as much as I could either. Also You're also under the assumption I think I know more about game design, I never said that. But I am a consumer I expected much more out of rebellion than I received. Don't get that snippy attitude with me :yes:

Reply #27 Top

While I generally agree that the new content in Rebellion isn't really worth the price tag, it's not like they lied about what was included. Looking now at the Impulse and Steam purchase pages, it lists pretty specifically what is new with Rebellion, and reading reviews, watching videos, or even just glancing at screenshots should have told you that for the most part the game is as it was before.

Not really anyone else's fault you chose to base your expectations on the price tag alone rather than any sort of information about the product.

Reply #28 Top

Oh another "this thing sucks" troll.

*goes back to enjoying a well spent $30*

Reply #29 Top

Be sure to blame Ryat.  I know it's his fault again.

Actually, Stant is to blame as he thought up Rebellion first.

Reply #30 Top

What I mean is you are embellishing rebellion.

 

What you mean is that you fail Reading Comprehension 101.  He did a more detailed comparison already.  You even quoted it.

 

Thats 36 abilities on the new Titans and Capital Ships compared to 12 with Entrenchment.

 

He's off on his count too, there are 11 abilities, only 9 unique ones, on the Starbases.  The abilities on the new Titans and Capital Ships have no empty slot or duplicate ability.  Entrenchment is actually less meat and potatoes than he implied.  A downright unfair comparison in the other direction. :)

Reply #31 Top

Quoting psychoak, reply 31
What you mean is that you fail Reading Comprehension 101.  He did a more detailed comparison already.  You even quoted it.

^

Quoting psychoak, reply 31
He's off on his count too, there are 11 abilities, only 9 unique ones, on the Starbases.  The abilities on the new Titans and Capital Ships have no empty slot or duplicate ability.  Entrenchment is actually less meat and potatoes than he implied.  A downright unfair comparison in the other direction.

Yep, your right. Forgot TEC only had 3 abilities and good point on the duplicates.

Reply #32 Top

God are you retarded

Quoting psychoak, reply 31

What I mean is you are embellishing rebellion.

 

What you mean is that you fail Reading Comprehension 101.  He did a more detailed comparison already.  You even quoted it.

 

You must have failed reading comprehension I said he did comparisons but he embellished rebellion. Anything else you want to say smart ass?

 

And I was talking about the envoy abilities my count doesn't change the fact that I am right actually it only strengthens my argument thank you very much. Also next time you talk to me about how I "fail Reading Comprehension 101" make sure you can use proper grammar.

Reply #33 Top

I think Windows is a ripoff myself.

Reply #34 Top

I just noticed the lady dancing in your avatar sinperium.

Reply #35 Top

Quoting Sinperium, reply 34
I think Windows is a ripoff myself.

DON'T GET ME STARTED ON WINDOWS!

LAME AND OVERPRICED!

YOU GOT THE SAME THING ON AN APPLE II GS 20 YEARS AGO!

NOTHING BUT A CHEAP KNOCK OFF!

Reply #36 Top

She dances for you...yes, it's true.

...and I can hardly wait for Windows 8, Ryat.

Reply #37 Top

Yes, you definitely fail...  You can't even keep track of who's who inside a single post.  When I say "he's something or other" while talking to you, "he" is obviously not you.

 

Please refrain from picking at grammar while completely lacking punctuation beyond periods and capitalization.  For instance, there's this thing called a comma, you may have heard of it.

 

The definition of Embellish would be a good thing to know too.  Your argument, wrong though it is, should have used the antonym of embellish in regards to Diplomacy.  To embellish is to overstate, what you claim is understatement of the competition.

 

I think Windows is a ripoff myself.

 

Stick to every other version, works out better that way. :)

Reply #38 Top

I don't need to write a dissertation of information just so you might understand every point down to the nth degree. 

The comparison is fair with Entrenchment and as pyschoak pointed out Rebellion would far outstrip Diplomacy which is why I didn't bother. The argument was framed as this expansion wasn't worth the cost compared to the previous expansions. I've presented a simplified but valid case as to why this is incorrect. You respond with uh-uh.

 

Reply #39 Top

"Isn't worth" is entirely relative.  It's like arguing which color is best.

Reply #40 Top

Quoting psychoak, reply 38
Yes, you definitely fail...  You can't even keep track of who's who inside a single post.  When I say "he's something or other" while talking to you, "he" is obviously not you.

 

Please refrain from picking at grammar while completely lacking punctuation beyond periods and capitalization.  For instance, there's this thing called a comma, you may have heard of it.

 

The definition of Embellish would be a good thing to know too.  Your argument, wrong though it is, should have used the antonym of embellish in regards to Diplomacy.  To embellish is to overstate, what you claim is understatement of the competition.

 


I think Windows is a ripoff myself.

 

Stick to every other version, works out better that way.

 

Being able to understand what someone says is much more important than punctuation. Just saying. This conversation is over someone of your inferior intelligence doesn't need to speak to me. There is so much wrong with what you said I don't even want to continue.

Reply #41 Top

Quoting Sinperium, reply 40
"Isn't worth" is entirely relative.  It's like arguing which color is best.

Aren't you color blind ;)

Reply #42 Top

Quoting ZombiesRus5, reply 42

Quoting Sinperium, reply 40"Isn't worth" is entirely relative.  It's like arguing which color is best.

Aren't you color blind

Ouch.

Quoting ZombiesRus5, reply 39
I don't need to write a dissertation of information just so you might understand every point down to the nth degree. 

The comparison is fair with Entrenchment and as pyschoak pointed out Rebellion would far outstrip Diplomacy which is why I didn't bother. The argument was framed as this expansion wasn't worth the cost compared to the previous expansions. I've presented a simplified but valid case as to why this is incorrect. You respond with uh-uh.

 

I actually responded with you embellished rebellion much more than the other two in your other point. Which is what I've been trying to tell you.

Reply #43 Top

I've been called stupid by someone trying to cover for their complete inability to intelligently respond and avoid further looking like a douche!

 

It's all so meaningless now, my life is over...

Reply #44 Top

Quoting psychoak, reply 44
I've been called stupid by someone trying to cover for their complete inability to intelligently respond and avoid further looking like a douche!

 

It's all so meaningless now, my life is over...

No because you clearly are not understanding what I am saying. So your opinion means nothing to me he was embellishing rebellion putting in as many features as he could, while excluding many of them from Diplomacy and Entrenchment. Its a stupid argument and if you had "reading comprehension" you would of been able to see that.

Reply #45 Top

Since I never bought diplomacy... it was totaly worth the $20 for me =D

Reply #46 Top

Quoting Sinperium, reply 40
"Isn't worth" is entirely relative.  It's like arguing which color is best.

Neon Pink, next question?

Reply #47 Top

Quoting MayallCommunion, reply 45
So your opinion means nothing to me he was embellishing rebellion putting in as many features as he could, while excluding many of them from Diplomacy and Entrenchment. Its a stupid argument and if you had "reading comprehension" you would of been able to see that.

lol, your a bit dense sometimes. You are wrong in this regard, but unwilling to admit it. It's ok, there's therapy for that.

Reply #48 Top

Quoting ZombiesRus5, reply 42

Quoting Sinperium, reply 40"Isn't worth" is entirely relative.  It's like arguing which color is best.

Aren't you color blind

Oh yeah.  So what do I know?  All the colors look the same.

Reply #49 Top

Wow, one pissed off customer and he's getting his money's worth just watch everyone fight here.

Yes, all colors are the same after you've killed everything and all's covered in blood.

Reply #50 Top

If only they would make people pay to post on the forums--then we could watch people having to pay a troll tax for their ranting.

Gee, I wonder what I would do then?