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The Kol gets a lot of flak 
but seriously, what does it need to reasonably keep up with the other capitals now that Rebellion is out?
More AM to keep it's abilities going? Higher scaling GRG? Fuzzy dice?
good stuff, Volt. I guess I missed that the first time around.
The programmers are not at fault.
Once they put the Kol on the box cover it figured it could slack off.
The blame goes to the art department.
backs out of the room slowly... 
I decided I'm going to test a different debuff on GRG. Negative Hull Restoration, the new modifier we got in Rebellion that affects healing abilities. Maxed out it will half hull point restoration, which could be very significant for targets hiding in repair bays and for the titans that can heal (Ankylon, Eradica, and VR titan).
Extremely radical idea, but have we considered making Flak Burst a passive instead of Adaptive?
Because that'd be substantially more unique.
Effectively the Kol would automatically use wide-range Flak ammunition if Strikecraft come close, making it a cap-version of a flak frigate.
To be honest the easiest way of solving the Kols antimatter problem is by making its abilities consume less antimatter. Yet I think the Gauss Rail Gun does need at least one secondary effect to make it worthwhile. I really like the way Volt changed this in his Rebelanced Races mod for Rebellion.
I just hope at least something will be changed about the Kol in a future update. Right now when you see a Kol in multiplayer it is because a noob built it or someone is simply trolling.
Rankulas is far worse than Kol, how about discussing that?:P
There was not single Rankulas thread so far.
Its not as Iconic.
Same goes for Revelations and Marauders.
Which is sad really.
My point exactly. Silly TEC/Kol fanboyism.
I always wondered why Guidance wasn't a AoE ability. Make it work for your entire fleet and it will allow a spam fest like the Dunov's Flux, except they'll run out of AM soon. Still better to give all your firepower at the first though, so would still be worth it.
I do enjoy using the Marauder, as the phase out works against the AI focus firing, gravity distortion is great for a hit-and-run fleet. The subversion is worthless though.
Swap guidance and repulsion, and magically revelation will become one of the favorite ships...course guidance would still have to be changed...
Actually, some very good ideas for guidance have been suggested and even implemented in mods...
While I personally do not advocate the AoE AM regen (I have something else do that), that would definitely make the ability fantastic for fleet support...it would even be useful if you didn't have many caps, because it would keep your carriers and guardians always primed with AM....
The Revelation isn't nearly as bad as the Kol. At least it has a really damn good disable going for it - in a late-game fight, being able to disable a high-level cap ship is very powerful.
In regards to...
Umm.. It is.. Reduce cooldowns by up to 40% for all targets within 8000 of the Revelation.
Well, an idea that actually has a chance of getting implemented.. Swapping abilities is something that the devs have said will never happen (as much as that would fix all sorts of things). I might consider putting such a change in RR though I'd like to talk with people about it over TS3 or something first given how drastic of a change it is.
I think maybe the reason that people don't like it is because they don't get to actually do anything on the Revelation. If Guidance allowed you to keep some crucial ability (say, Shield Restore) up constantly, then maybe it would be more useful. It really seems like it needs a rework though I'm sad to say...
I already suggested it:
https://forums.sinsofasolarempire.com/426378
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Quoting CoronalFire, reply 39I always wondered why Guidance wasn't a AoE ability
Umm.. It is.. Reduce cooldowns by up to 40% for all targets within 8000 of the Revelation.
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lol you can see how often I play Advent. Once more how often I get the Revelation lol. Now imma have to get it just for that.
Edit: just looked at it, and it says targets friendlies, i.e. you have to target one ship. That doesn't look like AoE. Diplo 1.34
Edit2: tested it. It's not AoE unless they changed that in Rebellion.
Pester the devs to get an "ability duration" modifier...
Revelation thread here.
Threads could be started for Vasari ships but maybe they should be balanced in other areas first? But if someone wants to start a discussion thread for those or any other ship (the Adjudicator, anyone?), that's fine.
The Kol just gets the most ubiquitous trolling.
Are you kidding me... the Revelation is an EPIC ship.....
It can Totally lock down ships, they can fricking stunlock fleets, turn off Dunov's or other healing ships, prevent warpouts its one of the Strongest CC's in game, you have 10 Revelations Vs 10 of any other ship in the game and they can slaughter all 10 just by CC'ing 9 and burning 1 by 1
then they have the Best scout / Intel ability, they can view ANY planet Anywhere on the map... letting you bomb it, see fleet moment etc.
Really don't underestimate Intel, just being able to see gives you a Massive advantage that none of the other races get.
They also have pretty high base damage.
Just cause one of its ability's is a little lackluster and your actually require to target and micro them, rather than blindly mashing attack on the red things that appeared in your green thing.
DIE RED THINGS DIE!
You must really have no idea how to use the Revelation to be posting like that. First off, Reverie is good. We all agree there. That said, it has disadvantages, like the fact that if you shoot at it, it wakes up.
Clairvoyance is nice, but an ability point on a capitalship is worth far more than the 200 credits it costs to build a scout, or at least it should be. Scouting isn't hard.
Guidance requires no micro whatsoever. It's a massive AoE that blankets your entire fleet.
And base damage? It's a capital! Base damage on capitals is irrelevant.
And beyond that, this is the Kol thread, not the Revelation thread.
Kol needs:
1. GRG secondary effect changed
2. AFF made passive
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