Limit number of frigates per type.

200 illums, or 50 illums, 50 heavies, 50 flacks, and 50 lights. doenst change anything as far as sniping a starbase. Expecially if you throw in enough advent corvettes to make that starbase deal 1/2 damage.

bad idea. horrible. people can use their fleet supply however they want. but making only one unit means they kinda tend to leave themselves to be able to be hard countered.

I hate this idea. Don't like being hit by 100 long-range frigates? Then build your own 100 long-range frigates. Nothing is stopping you. Build a bunch of strike craft carriers. There are ways to answer spamming of one unit type. I tend to roll with balanced fleets that don't have issues dealing with such large numbers of long-range frigates or other frigates.

Wow. First limit the number of super weapons and now limit the type of units?

They do limit the number by requiring fleet upgrades and a variance in supply cost per type of ship

I suspect the next request will be to limit the number of trade ports or culture towers and even factories

That goes against the principle of having an RTS, this would be a bad idea.

I don't understand why it's a problem that any single unit (like a Starbase) is unable to keep 200 targets at bay by itself.  If a fleet of 200 units (mixed or otherwise) jumps onto one of your assets and you had no idea it was coming, then yes, you've lost that asset.  Don't let that happen.  Scout (it's cheap).  Use your own fleet.  If you can't muster a counter, then you've been outplayed.

This isn't to say that there aren't potential balance issues but defenses being unable to wipe a fleet on their own isn't one of them.

TEC have great counter to that - RED BUTTON

Advent have great counter to that - METEOR SHOVER

Vasari have great counter to that SUBVERTERS + OVERSEERS

Oh yes, let's limit the number of ships so everyone is forced to build the same number of the same ships. And lets remove Advent and Vasari, they are too different. Oh, and the TEC rebels, too. They are also too different. If everyone has the same number of ships with the same attributes then it'll be fair!

LRM spam can be countered by support carriers, Dunovs or Progenitors prolong the life of your structures and defensive fleet. If you know how to knock out one-unit spam the enemy just ends up feeding your capships.

No way, that is bad to limited, and less replay value, it's better let everyone want than limited, if limited, it's so meaningless to had same fleet and same bored, it's more fun if unlimited, many diffent way, than same way.

One, very blood-thirsty level 6 Marza in the middle of that swarm would be the most epic thing ever.

If it could survive the first few volleys then then it wouldn't just be like a wolf among chickens... more like space guinea pigs in a giant industrial space blender. 

I've seen it done in smaller numbers with Missile Barrage and how it eats them alive, but, 100 packed into a small area would be worth filming,. 

Another reason why limiting ships is because players with less military labs (especially really early in the game) are only able to build one or two types of frigates. If they could only build so many of those, they never get a chance to expand and claim new territory.

trackpad im not impressed--please think things through. 

Lol you know I saw another post by someone from the super weapon post talking about how someone was gonna bring this up after we started down that path with the SW. lols

Oh, and players should be unable to have so many planets. That's totally unfair. People are just spamming mass planets and have so much cash.

Limit planets per player to 2, ok?

Try a lvl 8 Marza. Increase in damage and waves.

Thanks for crashing the epic party.

THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU PUT YOUR GAME ON STEAM!

I will slap you with a trout

*Throws white glove on the ground*

....but you can slap him with your mind?

need a halycon to do the mental bitch slap.

Technically, any single Advent can be qualified to give just one mental bitch slap to a person. Doing it to a swarm of strike craft in outer space over great distances requires many Advent working toghether from the Halcyon.

Ok, wow, love the reactions.  Can we discuss not flame?

1.  I don't play against other players, dont have the time to do online so all I do is play against the computer.  When the computer swarms you with 100+ smaller ships it isnt realistic or fun at all.  I am not in it for a fast paced shooter with hundreds of ships blasting each other while I stare at the screen in tactical view. 

2.  Why not?  Seriously if its an option for some of us then why would it effect you?  Just like limiting the superweapons with a pregame switch.  If its an option then why in the hell would anyone care?  If you dont like it, dont use it.  However having no option means that instead of a strategy game we end up playing a shooter.  If I wanted that I would play gratuitous space battles or something else mindless.

3.  We already limit the number of ships.  Following some of the logic here means that the fleet cap itself is a bad idea.  why cant we have 1000's of ships then?  Exactly, its a strategy 4x, not just a shooter.

Sins is great, it just needs more depth and more ability to create the game you want to play. 

I have played everything since the original Stars!, MOO and galciv but Sins is a lot closer to what I see as the optimum of the genre.  Think Enders game, not command and conquer.  More detailed planetary systems, maybe some crew heroes and the ability to craft a game to your individual liking and its replay value is extended beyond the already predictable start - struggle and overwhelming march to the end that it has now.

-Jason

I suppose that is true. But I figured I needed some work out time. This trout is really heavy...

Why dont you just mod the fleet supply to be really really low? that will make every single ship very special and important.

I always wanted to make a mod like that, where even losing a single cobalt would be about as painful as losing a lv 1 capital ship is now.

I see. Plus there's the comical and insulting side of being slapped by a trout as opposed to an awesome psychic force.