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Stardock games are apparently coming to Steam

Stardock games are apparently coming to Steam

Sins just popped up!

If we already own it, can we get a key to register it on Steam? That'd be sweet.

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Reply #26 Top

Quoting Rebell44, reply 25
those features are very usefull - for example Steam Cloud.
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Most people don't have multiple gaming machines, so cloud saves aren't nearly as useful as you might think.

Reply #27 Top

I hope that multilanguage will be availiable, even if i don't beleive it. Steam is better than Impulse on the language.

Reply #28 Top

That's not likely to change. Localization availability is based on the international publishing deals and doesn't really have anything to do with the store.

Reply #29 Top

Great news on SDC.  I had an original Dregin.net subscription for crying out loud so I'm very familiar with SDC and I really liked it.  I won't rebuy on Steam then and will wait for SDC to come back and will link up my Stardock games in there again.  I don't mind using both SDC and Steam.

Note:  I did *not* pre-order Rebellion even with the deal simply because I don't do business with Gamestop.  Guess I didn't realize the pre-order was thru Stardock.  Hopefully there will be another round of pre-order deals once SDC is up and running.

By the way, any ETA on SDC's return?

Reply #30 Top

Quoting Island, reply 11


Quoting Picciu, reply 8Other developer was able to unlock their title on steam or other platforms. I thought Sins was a Stardock game and that shouldn't be a problem. Can you please explain why it is not possibile?



One situation doesn't always apply to another.  The keys are tied to the service they were bought from, and therefore they won't be transferrable.

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I'm aware of that and probably most cases I remember was games sold directly by developer (so not tied to a digital store).

But I don't understand a fact: it was always stated that Stardock Games remain Stardock Games, so the agreement is with stardock. Many pre Impulse title was automatically unlocked in Impulse, so I expect them to be free to unlock if they someday become available on other service.

Also for Stardock shouldn't be a problem to duplicate keys for their customers to use on another dd service instead of advising to buy it again (that's however is not mandatory). To me it seems more a matter of wanting to than being able to.

 

Anyway Stardock title coming to steam go against at least 4 of 10 gamers bill of right points.

Reply #31 Top

So do those of us who have all three games get trinity for free on our steam accounts? Or whats the deal? Wil my other SD games also start showing up on steam?

Well I just figured out how to add my SD titles to steam, it will be cool to see them become fully supported steam games in the future.

Reply #32 Top

Quoting kryo, reply 23

Quoting Anguille, reply 22I am curious to hear what's better from Steam than from Impulse...

I've had to download from both this week... Impulse was still ~50% faster, so it still has the edge on that front (as will the new SDC).

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Strange that Stardock don't promote his own store !!!

Recently buy Gal Civ II ultimate on https://store.stardock.com/browse ... download from the stardock store and the serial work on Impulse ( in case of patch until the new SDC is ready )...

I think that buying a Stardock product/game on the Stardock store is the best way to be sure that all my money go to Stardock...

As for steam, i use it but it conflict with my hardware raid bios... at boot time, 1 time op 2, it end up with a BSOD... and for security reason, a software raid is not a solution... anyway, steam is not so bad... but i like the K.I.S.S. principle ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K.I.S.S ) and it is why i like the stardock store and the old SDC ( new one is look to much colored like the new windows 8 metro interface )... in fact, from a personal point of view, the best think is the good old "update" button integrated in main menu of the software...

 

Reply #33 Top

Quoting wbino, reply 15
How stupid are you people? Steam is just another outlet for Stardock to sell their product.

cd key changes,having to buy twice,I bought Elemental I want the whole Steam catalog for free...No,No,No!!!

Congrats..Stardock..you will sell many more...
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Quoting kryo, reply 23
Many people like Steam's social features, but if you don't care for any of that, then there's really nothing to recommend Steam over any other alternative. Personally I just want it to give me the game and get out of the way.
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This I agree with.

Reply #34 Top

Quoting kryo, reply 26
Most people don't have multiple gaming machines, so cloud saves aren't nearly as useful as you might think.
End of kryo's quote


I think you are overlooking the fact that people upgrade their computers, reinstall the OS, have hard drive failures/fires/floods. I myself have lost many save games because when I reinstalled Windows I forgot to backup the old games which save in their program files folder instead of the my documents folder.  I was shocked that none of the dozens of games I own on steam use cloud storage and I still don't have a good system in place for organizing all of this stuff.

Reply #35 Top

Quoting Anguille, reply 19

Uh? you prefer steam over gamestop/impulse?

Frankly i can't understand the opposition to Impulse/Gamestop...the service and the range of games is way better than steam...it's plain ridiculous to be opposed to it because of Gamestop's history.
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... the range of games is better on Impulse then Steam? Have you actually bothered to look at Steam's catalog? That statement is so wrong the only way to top it would be to tell us the Sun is made of cupcakes.

Download speeds used to be better on Impulse, though for the last two months Steam's been capping out my connection so I dunno if it still is. But it's social features are non-existant, it's got no way to invite a friend into a game I'm already playing, it doesn't have stuff like cloud saves or achievements, doesn't have any way to enable auto-patching, and the game selection isn't even close.

If all you're interested in is a download manager then it's comparable, but Steam does so much more then Gamestop does that it's hardly a good comparison.

Reply #36 Top

Quoting Tridus, reply 35



Quoting Anguille,
reply 19

Uh? you prefer steam over gamestop/impulse?

Frankly i can't understand the opposition to Impulse/Gamestop...the service and the range of games is way better than steam...it's plain ridiculous to be opposed to it because of Gamestop's history.


... the range of games is better on Impulse then Steam? Have you actually bothered to look at Steam's catalog? That statement is so wrong the only way to top it would be to tell us the Sun is made of cupcakes.
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I did look at both catalog's. I am not into mass-gaming so there's a bigger choice of the games i do buy on Impulse. Where are Armada 2526 Supernova, Starpoint Gemini, Praetorians, Scourge of War, Hegemony Gold, Caesar IV etc on Steam? There's not point for me to change to Steam because they don't offer the games i want...no added value, on the contrary. Gamersgate and Matrix Games complete my needs for digital distribution.

Impulse is still the fastest...

I am not saying i won't install Steam at one point (actually i already own a couple of game which require it but haven't installed yet). I find funny to see people claiming that Steam is sooo great and at the same time they hate Gamestop...ironic.

Reply #37 Top

Quoting Anguille, reply 36

Quoting Tridus, reply 35


Quoting Anguille,
reply 19

Uh? you prefer steam over gamestop/impulse?

Frankly i can't understand the opposition to Impulse/Gamestop...the service and the range of games is way better than steam...it's plain ridiculous to be opposed to it because of Gamestop's history.


... the range of games is better on Impulse then Steam? Have you actually bothered to look at Steam's catalog? That statement is so wrong the only way to top it would be to tell us the Sun is made of cupcakes.


I did look at both catalog's. I am not into mass-gaming so there's a bigger choice of the games i do buy on Impulse. Where are Armada 2526 Supernova, Starpoint Gemini, Praetorians, Scourge of War, Hegemony Gold, Caesar IV etc on Steam? There's not point for me to change to Steam because they don't offer the games i want...no added value, on the contrary. Gamersgate and Matrix Games complete my needs for digital distribution.

Impulse is still the fastest...

I am not saying i won't install Steam at one point (actually i already own a couple of game which require it but haven't installed yet). I find funny to see people claiming that Steam is sooo great and at the same time they hate Gamestop...ironic.
End of Anguille's quote

It's not irony. It's the historical fact of the business practices of Gamestop. They are simply not to be trusted.

Reply #38 Top

I think you are overlooking the fact that people upgrade their computers, reinstall the OS, have hard drive failures/fires/floods. I myself have lost many save games because when I reinstalled Windows I forgot to backup the old games which save in their program files folder instead of the my documents folder.
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Games that are long enough to need saves and that have enough replay value for that to come up as an issue are sadly few and far between these days. The only time I've ever ran into something like that in the remotely near past was after getting a sequel that had an import for the previous game which had been released four years prior... which wasn't really a major loss at all (you can generally download other people's saves that are similar enough to hit all the flags they check in those sorts of cases).

 

But it's social features are non-existant, it's got no way to invite a friend into a game I'm already playing, it doesn't have stuff like cloud saves or achievements, doesn't have any way to enable auto-patching, and the game selection isn't even close.
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Social features and achievements are not a value-add for everyone, and auto patching only really matters for frequently updated multiplayer games (it's actually an added barrier for single-player games, where it may not affect anything you care about but you still have to download it to play anyway).

As for selection, all that matters is that they have what you want (which basically just means new releases).

Reply #39 Top

Quoting Bomberross, reply 37


It's not irony. It's the historical fact of the business practices of Gamestop. They are simply not to be trusted.
End of Bomberross's quote

And steam is more trustworthy? that's ironic.

Reply #40 Top

Quoting Tridus, reply 35
If all you're interested in is a download manager then it's comparable, but Steam does so much more then Gamestop does
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I do not want a program that does more than gamestop ... in fact I want a program that does less! (to some degree)

 

It gives me a centralized update location, lets me know if updates are available, lets me re-download my games, tells me if my version is un-corrupted per the latest revision ... and that's about it. I use xFire for joining BF2 games with my friends and vice versa. I save locally and with all due respect ... if you are installing Windows that many times, then you are doing things that put your computer at risk (or are experimenting with settings etc) in which case you should backup your data before you attempt any of those in the first place.

 

*shrugs* Just my opinion I guess. If I want to buy something, I don't want all the extra frills outside of what I want. Simple.

Reply #41 Top

I would trust Steam before I'd trust Gamestop.  I worry about Steam's TOS crap, but they've never screwed me.


I'd trust the Enron folks before I'd trust Gamestop.   I gave Gamestop one last chance, and they failed me.  Once my next console game comes in next week, I'm done doing business with them completely.

Reply #42 Top

Don't trust Gamestop either, but my mistrust isn't enough o completely not use Impulse.  Are they even calling it impulse any more?  

Reply #43 Top

Nope, they've changed its name to GameStopNow.

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Quoting Lord, reply 42
Don't trust Gamestop either, but my mistrust isn't enough o completely not use Impulse.  Are they even calling it impulse any more?  
End of Lord's quote

I believe they call it Gamestop PC Downloads (powered by Impulse)

I sit corrected  :blush:

Reply #45 Top

Quoting Anguille, reply 39

Quoting Bomberross, reply 37

It's not irony. It's the historical fact of the business practices of Gamestop. They are simply not to be trusted.


And steam is more trustworthy? that's ironic.
End of Anguille's quote

Go take a look at what they do in their retail stores and make that statement. They pull some slimy things with new games (ie - they crack them open and remove inserts that they don't like etc etc.)

Reply #46 Top

Quoting Bomberross, reply 44

I believe they call it Gamestop PC Downloads (powered by Impulse)

I sit corrected 
End of Bomberross's quote

You may in fact be correct.  I was mousing over what used to be ImpulseNow, so I'm probably wrong.  Regardless, it is still no longer Impulse at all.

Reply #47 Top

Quoting kryo, reply 28
That's not likely to change. Localization availability is based on the international publishing deals and doesn't really have anything to do with the store.
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But why i don't have access to a french localization when i update my game. As soon i have to update my game, i have to log in Impulse to download last patch. At the end, i have several information which have string not found.

 

 

Reply #48 Top

The only reason I got Impulse in the first place, was that so Stardock got a bigger chunk of my retail contribution. Now that Steam is on list of distributors and Impulse has been sold to Gamestop, that's obviously not the case anymore. However, my first interest still remains, if I buy from the new SDC, will you guys get more of my cash?

Also, not that my opinion matters much, I really dislike the idea of needing any online connection or verification, regardless of the features that it promises me. The new cloud approach does not appeal to me in any way. To be fair, I'm an equally hating Luddite, I hate the idea and implementation of Steamwork too.

Reply #49 Top

Brad- just wondering, will SDC be like impluse?  can we still access all the stardock titles that we bought from Impluse in SDC? how about non-stardock games?

 

I got a feeling that GameSpot isn't putting much love for impluse at all, I'm worried that they will kill impluse off, if that happen what happen to all our games that we bought? would it just disappear and I'll call myself stupid from continue using Impluse after gamestop bought it.

since gamestop is just a retailer company unlike other online store that are own by game developer and publishers.  

for some reason I think Square Enix going to own it last if gamespot don't do well in selling pc games ><

Reply #50 Top

Quoting kryo, reply 26
Most people don't have multiple gaming machines, so cloud saves aren't nearly as useful as you might think.
End of kryo's quote

My gaming machine just crashed a bit ago.  I can tell you from that experience, cloud saves are more useful than you might think.